Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[70kmph]

Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

 

[bambino]

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Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.

 

[Lequack]

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Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.

His leg also seemed to be a bit bleeding today:

 

[huge]

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Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

The wound seen in the pics is on the outside of his right knee, so it should be related to the second crash, that happened on a bend to the right.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.

Him sliding means more grazes and bleeding, but if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone

 

[bambino]

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Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.

Him sliding means more grazes and bleeding, but if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone

Absolutely with you on that.

 

[huge]

Re: Re:

Froomedawgs first crash Stage 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJDVoWf0Jzw

That actually looked potentially quite painful. He slided good few meters on his side and leg.

Him sliding means more grazes and bleeding, but if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone

You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

 

[hazaran]

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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.

 

[huge]

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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.

PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"

I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.

Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.

 

[Vasilis]

Well he finished right at the front today, so for now I'm assuming it's not such a big deal.

 

[70kmph]

Harder to sleep with wounds and taking pain killer like the Team Tramadol has nasty side effects, but something worked for the moment

 

[PremierAndrew]

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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.

PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"

I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.

Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.

The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics

Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc

 

[Tonton]

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If Froome was really bothered, he'd say he wasn't
If Froome wasn't really bothered, he'd say he wasn't

We know **** all except for foto's

Agree, tomorrow will be the test.

This. I have a feeling some of the others will put him to task just to check his condition.

Absolutely, and they have to try anyway. They can't just sit there and wait as Froome still has that 42k TT next week as a buffer. If Froome puts in a performance like last years Vuelta TT they will need a lot of time in the mountains.

Unfortunately they will all wait for contador (like always) to make his move and maybe katusha will follow him and help sky

This.

They all say "I will attack" but no one wants to be all-in. Except Contador, and probably for Katusha, my guess is Zakarin. He already got his top-5 at the Giro, now he wants more. I think that Froome will be OK tomorrow, but I sense big changes in the top-10. Bertie could climb a few spots if he doesn't blow himself up.

 

[Tonton]

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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.

PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"

I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.

Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.

The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics

Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc

i don't know about the physics side of it, nut personal memories come back...it hurts . And what may be a bigger impact is how it affects sleep, recuperation. If you have to find a new position in bed...yikes. And then you wake up in your normal position and it hurts...and you spend twenty minutes getting in a new position...we all know that. Not fun.

 

[biketheroad]

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You can break your collarbone regardless. It only depends on the way you first hit the ground, nothing else.

Well yes, in any crash you can break your collarbone, or your pinky. How insightful. Please now relate this to reality.

PremierAndrew said, quote, " if he hadn't slid, there's fair chance he would have broken his collarbone"

I 'm saying that there is no relation between the chance to break a collarbone and sliding after the crash, so the above statement is false.

Btw, due to his speed a rider that falls will always slide for some distance.

The longer you slide, the greater the amount of time over which the kinetic energy is dissipated. Force = Rate of change in momentum -> larger time to stop (sliding for longer) -> less force on body -> less chance of fractures. Simple physics

Yes, you always slide some distance, but the length/distance of the time depends on multiple factors, eg angle of fall, road surface, presence of precipitation etc

Trust me, you slide just as well with fractured bones as intact ones.

 

[Tonton]

Yikes. When you think about it, NFL players and cycling pros are so under-paid...they put their body on the line every single day.

I don't want Dawg to lose due to injury. I want him beat fair and square. It won't happen. We are in the timr ehrn trams and riders will protect placings and what comes with it. Would the 3-8 chase Bertie when he attacks? Hell yes!

Froome is where he needs to be, has the best team. He's OK.

 

[spalco]

I'm worried about those pictures. Even if that injury isn't that painful it just saps strength. A tough third week surely gets even tougher for Froome.

 

[CyclingDaddy55]

Well, tick off another stage....the last real chance the rivals have of dethroning Froomie comes tomorrow I suppose. He's still 55s ahead and riding smart as are his teammates. I am really impressed with each of them. Today, Poels was incredible bridging the gap and coming back to Froomie. Go Sky!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ez no problem guys. He has the team to ride the sufficient watts. Al he has to do is calculate and close the gap near the end. Or go himself and destroy em all.

Tomorrow same story. And then blow everyone away in the ITT

 

[deValtos]

I think the crashes affected him a bit and he lost a few watts, Nibali was stronger for sure. However it could've been way worse. Good day for the froomester.

 

[huge]

Everyone is pretty sure that Froome will destroy everyone during Mon ITT... I'm not that sure. Quite the opposite actually... I think the margin will be way less than expected.

 

[Matteo.]

if these are the values ​​of the field, he just have to survive tomorrow. as I said, the wounds are superficial but it does not mean that you are 100%. I'm not sure he has given everything today, seeing how he and the Team have rode . they may save energy for sierra nevada

 

[Pricey_sky]

Very happy with that, the injuries don't seem to be affecting him too much and he got back to the Nibali/Contador group nicely. Another day ticked off!

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Everyone is pretty sure that Froome will destroy everyone during Mon ITT... I'm not that sure. Quite the opposite actually... I think the margin will be way less than expected.

I think Froome will take 45-60s on Nibali, obviously a lot more to some of the weaker TT'ers. It depends if he puts in a TT like he did at the Vuelta last year, if anything I'd argue he is much stronger this year than last year.

 

[huge]

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if these are the values ​​of the field, he just have to survive tomorrow. as I said, the wounds are superficial but it does not mean that you are 100%. I'm not sure he has given everything today, seeing how he and the Team have rode . they may save energy for sierra nevada

I'm pretty sure he was giving everything when trying to keep the gap from VN and AC to a minimum and then getting back to them.

VN's move could have been potentially disastrous for him. There's nothing to keep back in a situation like that.