Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[wwabbit]

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at the end of the day, another false myth has gone.
In the sense obviously froome does not like the cold and the rain, but it is not as disastrous as many describe .
a little like the false myth that he could not gone on the cobbles or bad descender

He's still crap at one days.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

at the end of the day, another false myth has gone.
In the sense obviously froome does not like the cold and the rain, but it is not as disastrous as many describe .
a little like the false myth that he could not gone on the cobbles or bad descender

He's still crap at one days.

This final myth will be disproved in Austria next year

 

[LaFlorecita]

Congratulations, he was simply the strongest overall

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

at the end of the day, another false myth has gone.
In the sense obviously froome does not like the cold and the rain, but it is not as disastrous as many describe .
a little like the false myth that he could not gone on the cobbles or bad descender

He's still crap at one days.

This final myth will be disproved in Austria next year

But can he beat Poels?

What would his team look like?

 

[JRanton]

He's lost a few top end watts but his endurance is incredible now. That was a brutal route to do the double on. Legend.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

Maybe, Imho even a guy like Nairo Quintana could fading before Chris Froome, seriously.

 

[portugal11]

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Froome and Poels were clearly the two strongest riders in this race. About halfway through the final climb the peleton had been reduced to 14 riders 6 of whom were from team Sky. Clearly if we want a good race we need to get rid of the rest of the teams and just let Sky race against each other. You have to give respect to the other riders but they were all a sideshow compared to the Sky team.

I watched a bit of the Tour of Britain with actual sprints, sprinters and ITT specialists and found it much more entertaining than this Vuelta. Outside of Froome and Sky there was not much reason to watch. I hope the Vuelta can move to a more balanced route. While I am happy for Froone getting the double. It was an amazing accomplishment, this has to be the most boring grand tour I can remember.

Tell me that you're a troller

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

at the end of the day, another false myth has gone.
In the sense obviously froome does not like the cold and the rain, but it is not as disastrous as many describe .
a little like the false myth that he could not gone on the cobbles or bad descender

He's still crap at one days.

This final myth will be disproved in Austria next year

Froome will win Lombardia in a month...

 

[TMP402]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

I think he can be top level until 2020. I can't be bothered to find out what that is in age.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

I think he can be top level until 2020. I can't be bothered to find out what that is in age.

He is 32 now.

I think he can be good until 2023

 

[Red Rick]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

That would be what, an 11/12 year span between GT podiums? That's super long. I can only think of Valverde who's managed that. Froome is racking up mileage very quickly, he's been doing 2 GTs every year for a while now, and his best climbing performances are now 2 years behind him.

I can only think of Valverde who's still near his best at that age. All other riders just get worse, go from challenging top 5s in GTs to fringe top 10 riders or domestiques or just rather average riders.

It's just very rare for riders to not get worse. What you usually see is that riders get less explosive, and that they first decline in area's that suits them less. Contador started with sucking in short, flat TTs, then he slightly got worse in super hard stages, etc.

I see that in Froome a bit. Froome's naturally suited to medium length climbs and TTs, and he's slowly getting a bit vulnerable in the big, high mountains.

Time comes for us all, until the day that Alejandro Valverde decides to come for time and beat it into submission

 

[avanti]

.................., how long does Froome have at the top you think.
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If Froome keeps riding head down he may have a serious career ending accident.

 

[Parker]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

I've thought for a long time that he has one really good year left in him. By that I mean Tour winning good. He might be able to win a Giro after that.

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

at the end of the day, another false myth has gone.
In the sense obviously froome does not like the cold and the rain, but it is not as disastrous as many describe .
a little like the false myth that he could not gone on the cobbles or bad descender

He's still crap at one days.

This final myth will be disproved in Austria next year

Froome will win Lombardia in a month...

Please no. Let us at least have train free classics. Even if until the middle of Civiglio last time it was an Astana train. But still, please. The ardennes are already mediocre enough.

 

[Red Rick]

I really doubt Froome will be close in the worlds ITT. Lombarida ain't happening. Also, once Froome is past winning Tours, I actually think his window for winning the Giro is also past. It suits him that much less.


I imagine Froomey fancies a holiday. He can finally tell Kellan he won't have to be afraid of this man anymore who keeps attacking daddy according to the voice on TV.

 

[jsem94]

Amazing performance to win this double. I hope he goes to the Giro next year, but he will probably chase that fifth Tour. If not next year then the year after. I suspect he will want to anyway so he will have won all GTs.

 

[davisto246@gmail.com]

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Congratulations, he was simply the strongest overall

Respect for allowing that. And great respect too to your own man. Contador rode a fantastic, brave race today. Froome said Contador would leave absolutely everything 'on the road' ... and there is no doubt that he did.

It's hard to see how Bertie could have gone out in greater style or with his head held higher.

 

[MatParker117]

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5th Tour, maybe a real stab at rainbow and then off to Italy I imagine

Would winning the TT in Bergen be a Triple Crown?

 

[PremierAndrew]

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5th Tour, maybe a real stab at rainbow and then off to Italy I imagine

Would winning the TT in Bergen be a Triple Crown?

Not really, and by Rainbow I meant innsbruck

 

[TMP402]

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I just notice that Chris Froome and Andy Schleck are both born in 1985 but it seems they're not in the same generation at all, wow. In fact CF is an AS with better mental strenght and good karma, just forget the style because Schleck was the most aesthetic climber beside Contador. 2011 was the crossroad of their careers.

And Contador bridges the gap between their careers. If he didn't win the Giro 2015 I would even say Contador and Schleck were both the generation before Froome.

 

[Summoned]

Really an overwhelmingly impressive victory in the Vuelta, and combining it with the Tour victory, this is something that establishes Froome as one of the greats. He was clearly the strongest rider, and the fact that he had the strongest team really did not make a difference in the Vuelta, I would argue. I remain a Nibali fan, but there is no comparison between the two in terms of strength and accomplishments.

 

[movingtarget]

.................., how long does Froome have at the top you think.
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If Froome keeps riding head down he may have a serious career ending accident.

It's terrible isn't it.......how he keeps running into success !

 

[movingtarget]

Given his relative late breakthrough and less high profile youth, how long does Froome have at the top you think?

I think he could be good until even 37/38 years old.

I think he can be top level until 2020. I can't be bothered to find out what that is in age.

I have my doubts about that. I think Froome's crown starts to slip next season, just a feeling and closely watching his performance in the Tour and Vuelta compared to previous years. But if his ride in the Dauphine was a calculated one with the Tour and Vuelta in mind I could be wrong. Was the poor form in the Dauphine a sign that he was peaking later than usual ? Maybe and he achieved his double but if that was the case it also makes him more vulnerable in the Tour which is what happened and the course that wasn't supposed to suit him in the Tour actually ended up working in his favor. The final TT against Bardet was as expected as was Uran's better TT than other recent ones. I think he will go for the double again next year but change his prep so he peaks during the Tour as he wants that record equaling fifth victory.

But I still think Froome now, even though favorite to win and surrounded by a great team is beatable. It's up to the others to bring their best form to the race. Something that Quintana and Nibali couldn't do in 2017 in either race. Dumoulin will add interest of course and Porte continues as the enigma he is. All I wanted was for Porte to stay upright and complete the Tour just to see how his form would hold up but that was asking too much of course. Bardet's two podiums in the Tour should increase his confidence but the TT continues to be his achilles heel. Add to this some of the younger riders showing they are stronger now over three weeks and there should be some interesting racing next season in the GTs.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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5 4 0 (and counting) > 7 0 0

I rest my case

I don't know why you are counting 2nd places
It's 0 - 4 - 1 vs 2/3 - 2/3 - 3
Both are amazing riders and will go down as among the best in history. Froome for his palmares and dominance, Contador for his palmares and style. Please, have some respect. You know what they say, the only thing worse than a sore loser is an ungracious winner. Your favorite rider just won a big double yet you feel the need to drag down his biggest rival, to make your favorite look better? Just stupid.
Same goes for the poster above. I wish we could stay objective and above all respectful.