Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 35.6%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 63 53.4%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 26 22.0%

  • Total voters
    118
Escarabajo said:
oldcrank said:
A very nice look back at one of the greatest days ever in professional cycling: https://youtu.be/mccKzTdfXts
I have not been a fan of Froome but that was truly epic. Very few stages are worth watching in the last few years. But this one will remain in my preferred stages to watch forever.
What kind of statement is that? Lots of stages and especially classics are worth watching. I think cycling has been pretty great so far.
 
Valv.Piti said:
Escarabajo said:
oldcrank said:
A very nice look back at one of the greatest days ever in professional cycling: https://youtu.be/mccKzTdfXts
I have not been a fan of Froome but that was truly epic. Very few stages are worth watching in the last few years. But this one will remain in my preferred stages to watch forever.
What kind of statement is that? Lots of stages and especially classics are worth watching. I think cycling has been pretty great so far.
I like classics all right. But for some reason I don't feel like watching them again. Maybe some editions of Paris Roubaix but that's it. I am biased on the GT side. Stages like the Galibier in 2011 Tour de France, Formigal Vuelta 2016, Stage to Risoul in Giro 2016 and even the epic 2006 Landis stage. Those I can watch several times.

For some reason I don't those very often. But that's just my opinion.
 
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movingtarget said:
Comparing Schleck to Froome is laughable. Andy was a notorious soft pedaler outside April and July. it's like comparing a vegetarian to a carnivore. Froome wants to win most races he competes in. Froome often loses skin in crashes but compared to others he is quite lucky. No broken collarbones etc........
Since his multiple failed attempts at the Vuelta he altered his seasons (2017/2018) so that primarily only the Dauphine would he actually make a concerted effort to even reach the podium. Anything else prior to grand tours were used for preparing for whatever grand tour he was targeting.
 

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Impressive ride do doubt. As with everything Sky, its so mechanical though. "We knew the exact wattage, exact fueling, exact everything" and then we put all our resources into it and did it. That's when Froome shines. Ask him to ad-lib or ride on feel and he often seem to panic but give him a wattage number and he'll spin those legs like no one else.

Still, if Dumoulin doesn't ride like an idiot (waiting for Pinot on a freaking downhill!) he takes pink no trouble.
 
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When Froome has the wherewithal to shush, push or punch aggressive fans out of the way, he's on great form and a deastating attack will soon commence:)

To say that Froome rides mechanical and too calculated I think is unfair, he's xtremely aggressive, will attack in all terrain and is willing to risk it all on one bet. In that respect, I think the likes of Dumoulin, Qintana, Thomas, Majka, Porte etc are much more conservative. Froome is more like a Nibali type, but not quite Contador of course. He' an exciting dude to watch, doing extreme things that are unheard of, like trying (seriously) to win 3 GT's in a row, when he could be almost certain to win the Tour a 5th time. Constantly upping the ante, and bringing the hype. Now, if he had focused exclusively on the tour, and smashed it every year since 2013, he would be boring for cycling, but he changed it up and challenged himself every year.
 
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Oude Geuze said:
When Froome has the wherewithal to shush, push or punch aggressive fans out of the way, he's on great form and a deastating attack will soon commence:)

To say that Froome rides mechanical and too calculated I think is unfair, he's xtremely aggressive, will attack in all terrain and is willing to risk it all on one bet. In that respect, I think the likes of Dumoulin, Qintana, Thomas, Majka, Porte etc are much more conservative. Froome is more like a Nibali type, but not quite Contador of course. He' an exciting dude to watch, doing extreme things that are unheard of, like trying (seriously) to win 3 GT's in a row, when he could be almost certain to win the Tour a 5th time. Constantly upping the ante, and bringing the hype. Now, if he had focused exclusively on the tour, and smashed it every year since 2013, he would be boring for cycling, but he changed it up and challenged himself every year.

Hopefully Red Rick doesn't see this :D

I think that the public perception began to change a lot in the 2016 Tour, with the attack on the descent, and the gaining time in the crosswinds. The respect to the Vuelta and Giro made him even less Lance like in the eyes of fans too. And he has a better record in one week races than many probably give him credit for.
 
It's been discussed often before but I really think the reason many people dislike Froome is actually that they dislike sky.
About how aggressive he is, he does attack in pretty epic situations (crosswind and downhill attacks in the 2016 tour come to mind) but on other days he is incredibly conservative. It feels like there is no middle ground. You go into a mountain stage with him and he'll either try to blow the race apart entirely or make sure all gc contenders finish within 10 seconds. That might be the smartest thing to do but it's not always the most enjoyable thing to watch esepecially as the latter days happen a lot more often. Trying to follow big moves and blowing yourself up in the process like Nibali and especially Contador, tactically might not be the smartest thing to do, but it shows a certain mentality many fans find appealing.
 
seems to me it's foremost about people not liking british riders becoming pretty much best gt riders out of the blue. froome's transformation is speechless, while thomas' tour win turned out unpleasant surprise as well. I've never noticed fans having a passionate dislike for bernal or landa in spite of the fact they ride / rode for Sky.
 
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spalco said:
rick james said:
in a parallel universe Red Rick would love Froomedawg….

If Froome were Kenyan-Kenyan and named something like Chris Frumchotui, he would've been the darling of this forum for at least a couple of years.
The only real racism is against WHITE people lol

This isn't Ben Shapiro's twitter account, nobody is here is looking to be redpilled
 
Brullnux said:
spalco said:
rick james said:
in a parallel universe Red Rick would love Froomedawg….

If Froome were Kenyan-Kenyan and named something like Chris Frumchotui, he would've been the darling of this forum for at least a couple of years.
The only real racism is against WHITE people lol

This isn't Ben Shapiro's twitter account, nobody is here is looking to be redpilled

Nah, not racism, the peloton is still almost completely white anyway, but support for the plucky outsider. ;)
 
Scarponi said:
Australian riders get ridden in here almost harder than the British

I think Cadel started that, Matthews kept the momentum going and Gerrans put the icing on the cake..........Matthews gets an easier time of it now and Gerrans was accepted more when he stopped getting results. Evans is still seen by many as an unusual species but often he was entertaining just by being himself !