Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[QueenStagiaire]

A bit more than two months on and he seems closely matched with current Contador… He’s still going strong at 2014 recovery pace.

 

[Froome]

There's a lot of talk about Pog's double and Vingo's form but they won't be main protagonists in July...#5 incoming

The problem is that the rules in the Tour are not fair to Froome.

He just rides with one leg since 2019!

Why the other riders don't ride also with just one leg?! If Vingegaard and Pogacar ride the Tour 2024 with just one leg like Froome, the fifth is coming!

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

There's a lot of talk about Pog's double and Vingo's form but they won't be main protagonists in July...#5 incoming

Correct. In 2011 his results just before the Vuelta were also poor, the best was a TdR 15th place. I know he's far away from that, but in science it's all about recreating the conditions to repeat sucess. He was 85th in GC in his last race before the 2011 Vuelta, so today he was even 47th! That's basically the same.

 

[AmRacer]

All we know is that @Froome attacks in the third week.

 

[Taxus4a]

Froome is still making history at cycling. The first rider who is at the same time the only rider with record of victories on the history of the race at the start, and at the same time the rider with less points currently at the ranking PCS at the starlist

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Today in how not to run a team:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797522178587627612

 

[tobydawq]

47. You can makes lot of views of this results...

One, he was here just to help the team after to be off almost 3 months and was at the front till the summit of the second of three climbs of the day, with similar time lost than current winner of Fleche Valone...

Two. what most of you are doing

Both have his sense...

We have to wait thil the last stages to Dauphine to make a better evaluation.

I don't often read this thread, but no, you can make one view of this result, not many.

He is done and has been for many, many years.

Why are you kidding yourself?

 

[JimPanzen]

Today in how not to run a team:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797522178587627612

This is absolutely crazy. From a performance perspective, Froome showed absolutely NOTHING this year to justify this decision on a sporting level. Imagine if Fromme shows absolutely nothing at the Dauphiné and still goes there as captain.

Edit: And what profile exactly do spnsors expect....there was some PR-potential left on Froome in the first two years at IPT, but not anymore.

 

[dazaau]

Today in how not to run a team:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797522178587627612

Adams must be fuming

 

[Taxus4a]

This is absolutely crazy. From a performance perspective, Froome showed absolutely NOTHING this year to justify this decision on a sporting level. Imagine if Fromme shows absolutely nothing at the Dauphiné and still goes there as captain.

Edit: And what profile exactly do spnsors expect....there was some PR-potential left on Froome in the first two years at IPT, but not anymore.

If he show absolutely nothing at Dauphine I agree. But the race has just started. I think leaders here are Derek Gee and Bennet, but for le Tour I think k Froome is the stronger man Who has the team or at least no doy is much stronger. Today stages are shorter and that IS even worse when you are older, but for a third week of le Tour I think he IS the stronger, and he showed that his last Tour, the only day he didnt really try the break and try tobstay closse to the best.

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2022/stage-16. He was that day in the group of Enric Más, he was leader of Movistar and better than Bardet, Who was days before second of GC, better than Pogacar. Nobody of the team got that except if they were in the break of the day. And he was as well third at Queen stage at Alp Dhuez, just behind Pidcock, and Meintes who was very strong that Tour looking stages. The problem for Froome is that he want to try an stage...but people as Bardet said they want to try an stage...they are going to chose the same oned, Froome is not at the level showed Bardet this Giro ..Bardet wanst super, but Froome I think cant reach that level..he didbt show that level the last years..but nobody of the team can reach, and if you have 4 Tours , you deserves respect, he has working lot of races for hid mates , but he has to show something this Dauphine, at least a clear progress.


Today is a short stage and the weather will be quite bad like yesterday, so I think he Will be aroud 100th, I Will be very surprised if he IS top 50, but we have to wait till last days to see how he is.

 

[Monte Serra]

Froome hasn't posted enough on YouTube this year to warrant his inclusion in the Tour squad. Just one 24 second video, those are rookie numbers!

And if he does get left home, we might look forward to another one of these cinematic masterpieces:

View: https://youtu.be/kh0sD9yN2qk?feature=shared

 

[Taxus4a]

Yes. He was ready, The team did nothing important that Tour, It was a mistake he was not at the start.

 

[topcat]

Froome was ready for the tour last year and he's ready for the tour this year. Are forumites ready for the tour?
Pog smiles at all the kids, taking a big lead into week 3. Vingo takes off the bandages and overtakes Pog in week 3. Remco and Rog pussy-whip each other for the coveted 3rd place. Froome BULLSHITS his way around France.
I'm ready.

 

[Rackham]

Yes. He was ready, The team did nothing important that Tour, It was a mistake he was not at the start.

They won the Puy de Dôme stage with Michael Woods.

That's way more than Froome would have achieved.

 

[pastronef]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1797543774975086650

View: https://www.x.com/chrisfroome/status/1797543774975086650

 

[Rackham]

Wielerflits has more details:

'Israel-Premier Tech neemt Froome nu wel mee naar Tour de France, jaar na conflict met Woods'

Chris Froome is zeker van zijn plekje in de selectie van Israel-Premier Tech voor de Tour de France. Dat schrijft L’Équipe. Vorig jaar werd de Brit nog thuisgelaten voor de Ronde van Frankrijk, volgens de Franse krant na een conflict met Michael Woods. Beide renners hebben het gerucht inmiddels...

www.wielerflits.nl

The story is insane tbh. They say IPT weren't happy with Woods 'only winning a stage' & not being a factor in GC last year so this year they're taking Froome instead.

That would be the equivalent of Visma - Lease a Bike hiring Contador for the 2024 TdF if Vingegaard doesn't make it.

 

[pastronef]

Wielerflits has more details:

'Israel-Premier Tech neemt Froome nu wel mee naar Tour de France, jaar na conflict met Woods'

Chris Froome is zeker van zijn plekje in de selectie van Israel-Premier Tech voor de Tour de France. Dat schrijft L’Équipe. Vorig jaar werd de Brit nog thuisgelaten voor de Ronde van Frankrijk, volgens de Franse krant na een conflict met Michael Woods. Beide renners hebben het gerucht inmiddels...

www.wielerflits.nl

The story is insane tbh. They say IPT weren't happy with Woods 'only winning a stage' & not being a factor in GC last year so this year they're taking Froome instead.

That would be the equivalent of Visma - Lease a Bike hiring Contador for the 2024 TdF if Vingegaard doesn't make it.

it's just l'Equipe and the French stirring the pot. both Froome and Woods joked about it on twitter

 

[Taxus4a]

Wielerflits has more details:

'Israel-Premier Tech neemt Froome nu wel mee naar Tour de France, jaar na conflict met Woods'

Chris Froome is zeker van zijn plekje in de selectie van Israel-Premier Tech voor de Tour de France. Dat schrijft L’Équipe. Vorig jaar werd de Brit nog thuisgelaten voor de Ronde van Frankrijk, volgens de Franse krant na een conflict met Michael Woods. Beide renners hebben het gerucht inmiddels...

www.wielerflits.nl

The story is insane tbh. They say IPT weren't happy with Woods 'only winning a stage' & not being a factor in GC last year so this year they're taking Froome instead.

That would be the equivalent of Visma - Lease a Bike hiring Contador for the 2024 TdF if Vingegaard doesn't make it.

In fact Woods was the only good from the team last year, but maybe he expected more from him. For me if Woods ok after his Crash he should be on le Tour. But if Froome finish quite well Dauphine he should be as well. But Woods desnt have races on his program, to go to le Tour after a Crash no riding a race before IS not good.

 

[Taxus4a]

They won the Puy de Dôme stage with Michael Woods.

That's way more than Froome would have achieved.

Yes, that stage...of course is important. But globaly the team was better the year before. There were Riders Who were instead of Froome and didnt be better.

 

[Bolder]

They would have a better shot at GC with Joseph Blackmore than Froome or even Woods, tbh.

Best strategy is to hunt a few stages with Williams and Clark, maybe Teuns and Woods.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Loads of good riders in this team. Steve William, Corbin Strong, Kris Nielands, George Bennet, Dylan Theuns, Derrick Gee, Riley Sheehan, Joseph blackmore, Michael Woods.

I don't mind froome continuing to ride as a pro but it would be nice for these riders to get their chances in the big races.

 

[yaco]

There is nothing new in sponsors interfering in team selection for bigger races, and, even smaller races. I doubt it will ever change. Froome being in the team does not unduly affect the team's strategy in the TDF.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Wielerflits has more details:

'Israel-Premier Tech neemt Froome nu wel mee naar Tour de France, jaar na conflict met Woods'

Chris Froome is zeker van zijn plekje in de selectie van Israel-Premier Tech voor de Tour de France. Dat schrijft L’Équipe. Vorig jaar werd de Brit nog thuisgelaten voor de Ronde van Frankrijk, volgens de Franse krant na een conflict met Michael Woods. Beide renners hebben het gerucht inmiddels...

www.wielerflits.nl

The story is insane tbh. They say IPT weren't happy with Woods 'only winning a stage' & not being a factor in GC last year so this year they're taking Froome instead.

That would be the equivalent of Visma - Lease a Bike hiring Contador for the 2024 TdF if Vingegaard doesn't make it.

Woods is just an ex-runner while Froomie is a Tour great. He's had 2 years of hard miles since his previous Tour, we'll witness a monster in July!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Woods is just an ex-runner while Froomie is a Tour great. He's had 2 years of hard miles since his previous Tour, we'll witness a monster in July!

Peak Froome was a runner, too

Spoiler

I'd like him to finish one final Tour, after he had to leave the race 2 years ago while being in a decent shape. It probably should have been last year though.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

In fact Woods was the only good from the team last year, but maybe he expected more from him. For me if Woods ok after his Crash he should be on le Tour. But if Froome finish quite well Dauphine he should be as well. But Woods desnt have races on his program, to go to le Tour after a Crash no riding a race before IS not good.

I don't think anybody argues that he shouldn't go if he was in decent shape to ride it. He'd have to surprise massively though, given the results so far, in the Dauphine to justify going as team leader. As of now it's unclear if he's in any shape to ride the Tour at all. His last result he barely made it in the Top 50 finishers in a Race with less than 100 starters.