Your right he was not prosecuted in a criminal trial—he was successfully sued and settled by paying $5 million.
- Jul 4, 2009
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I don't watch Horner's analyses so much anymore. Too many races are being decided way before the interesting tactical maneuvers (and potential blunders) come into play. It's sad for cycling.
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I thought Horner was just bitter from being dropped by nbc.
A couple of things here. Horner is awful as an on air personality. Could be worse though. The aussies they put in the analysis booth where Horner and VDV were are terrible. But that’s not vdv’s fault. They relegated him to the camera bike, which is hilarious to watch
Horner said something like that, i can't remember the exact words - better bike handler / better cx bike handler.
It seemed he realized he said something ridiculous so he carried on and did give examples but softened his take saying Pidcock has won ROAD races with his bike handling and that he makes better use of transferring his cx handling skills on the road, goes on to talk about alpe d'huez stage win when he made a huge bridge on the descent). Also mentioned his Strade solo where he attacked on the gravel descent passing the motorbike on the way.
- May 13, 2009
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I'm finding his 2024 Vuelta coverage to be especially compelling. I even refrain from ffwd'ing through the sponsor bit at the beginning. (Thank god I don't need a Bluetooth-enabled light!!)
Has he lost the plot?
It's like he has attached himself to his own plotlines he doesnt see anything else
Stage 1 of the tour and he is giving *** to Tudor for riding in the echelon because Alpecin have 5 guys?
What you'd rather sprint against Philipesen, Merlier & Milan than just head to head vs Philpsen????
And calling Jonas a knuckelhead for creating and driving the split in the peloton putting time into everyone when literally the previous day he is saying Remco can win??
C'mon man, I can't sit through these anymore
It's like he has attached himself to his own plotlines he doesnt see anything else
Stage 1 of the tour and he is giving *** to Tudor for riding in the echelon because Alpecin have 5 guys?
What you'd rather sprint against Philipesen, Merlier & Milan than just head to head vs Philpsen????
And calling Jonas a knuckelhead for creating and driving the split in the peloton putting time into everyone when literally the previous day he is saying Remco can win??
C'mon man, I can't sit through these anymore
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Did he ever have the plot?
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- Sep 14, 2009
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It's pundit crystal ball time!!!!
Honestly, his approach tends to be: take a pretty specific post race angle which requires actions and knock on effects/reactions to occur according to plan. Sometimes, it might have worked. But he usually has some huge assumptions based on some huge biases.
He had the plot in other arenas that are not for discussing in this forum!
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The ONLY thing the guy ever said that made any sense to me was to use Noxzema as chammy cream. Stuff works like a charm.
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In regards to Visma they only care about Pogi and they didn't make a dent in this regard. Maybe the idea is prolonged fatiguing, still here one must understand that such tactics cut both ways. And others can profit.
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He's too predictable. The same can be said for the We(ir)du bunch with Bruyneel, Lance and the others. Their one advantage was Bruyneel and Hincapie getting insider scoops. As for the rest? It's just a rehash of what we saw with our own eyes. I don't need to sit and watch a 20+ minute long video talking something I just watched and overanalysing a stage that'll be forgotten five minutes later.
Chris Horner's schtick was to be the "tactics guy". I'm just not sure how interesting that really is after years of doing this.
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Then again if we say ex pro riders suck at it and don't know ***, what is the alternative? Popular social media commentators?
The sad thing is he often has/had excellent insights, can break down lots of stuff I sure dont see, even great at sprint stages for a GC guy. But now he's getting clickbaity or something
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@saunaking
It's tricky and as content creator you need to reinvent yourself and try out approaches that might bring in more viewers and with them monetisation. It was not that long ago i watched one of the videos and to be honest titles might have felt a bit more clickbait-ish, the content was IMHO not affected by that, compared to some years back. So i feel that CH is still true to himself, like him or not. In the end some people just don't like you, no matter the reasons involved. It's the same story with for example Eurosport commentators and beyond. Content creation in the end is hard work and here i feel that CH is capable individual or it would long be over. I noticed that some fans tend to overact if CH views are not aligned with some social media narrative. That i guess is the luxury of being independent, you can afford it.
It's tricky and as content creator you need to reinvent yourself and try out approaches that might bring in more viewers and with them monetisation. It was not that long ago i watched one of the videos and to be honest titles might have felt a bit more clickbait-ish, the content was IMHO not affected by that, compared to some years back. So i feel that CH is still true to himself, like him or not. In the end some people just don't like you, no matter the reasons involved. It's the same story with for example Eurosport commentators and beyond. Content creation in the end is hard work and here i feel that CH is capable individual or it would long be over. I noticed that some fans tend to overact if CH views are not aligned with some social media narrative. That i guess is the luxury of being independent, you can afford it.
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Chris has a gift to being able to break down what occurred in a race and talk about it with a level of skilled analysis that few other ex-racers/pundits seem to demonstrate.
However, the more he has leaned into stating what racers should have done (based on his post race analyzes) and how that would have worked out, with absolute certainty, the worse his videos have become.
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Generally I agree with CH's analysis. Jonas's only worry has to be Pog, therefore gaining time on Remco and Rog is insignificant, especially if that means wasting a few bullets in the process. Yesterday, they should have let Jorg ride and try to put UAE under pressure.
And, of course, in isolation it is better for Tudor to sprint against one strong sprinter rather than 4. But, what CH was saying is that the chaos that a sprint naturally creates might present an opportunity where Tudor find themselves in the perfect place at the perfect time and win a stage. However, if there is only one strong team (Alpecin with MVDP) they can FOR SURE deliver Philipsen to the sprint 10 out of 10 times and Tudor will never have a chance to win (OK, maybe 1 out of 50) while the chances to win in a big peloton is maybe 1 out of 20 or so.
And, of course, in isolation it is better for Tudor to sprint against one strong sprinter rather than 4. But, what CH was saying is that the chaos that a sprint naturally creates might present an opportunity where Tudor find themselves in the perfect place at the perfect time and win a stage. However, if there is only one strong team (Alpecin with MVDP) they can FOR SURE deliver Philipsen to the sprint 10 out of 10 times and Tudor will never have a chance to win (OK, maybe 1 out of 50) while the chances to win in a big peloton is maybe 1 out of 20 or so.
- Jul 9, 2009
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Hardly visionary, I was using it when a chamois was made of leather and sewn into wool shorts.
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I think that's definitely the tactic and it could work. After a few mountain stages we will have a better idea of which one it will work for. But if they keep going head to head even if at some point they are both on their knees they'll probably have a 7-8 minute buffer to the next guys.
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Imagine how many people would get rich from betting if it would really work like that.
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My first bike cost $129 and came with sew-up wheels. It had 10 gears though, with 2 derailleurs.
Who is actually listening to this mug after that *** he pulled in 13', this guy never had any actual talent on a bike.
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