As someone mentioned above, Armstrong and his posse's slumming has scewed the BMC team big time. That team might as well fold or downgrade its license.
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boots911 said:i was in this year's pro12 race at nevada city, finished top twenty.
first off the rest of the pro12 field didn't care who was in the race, in fact before lance announced he was racing it, only 20 guys had pre-registered. on the day of the race, the field was full (125+ riders) before noon.
second, we see all sorts of pro riders in our races here in norcal, and in the early season we get pro tour guys entering our races quite often. had astana brought 9 guys to nevada city, i might consider that bullying. but three? not a problem, and dont care.
third, i've done this race three years in a row now, and finished top twenty every time. yes lance lapped us twice, but we also got lapped last year by nydam and england, and the year before darrin lil lapped us as well.
finally, the crowd was outstanding, and they cheered for everyone, not just lance. if this is what it takes to get bicycle racing back to the forefront (and give anther boost to the 2010 tour of california) im all for it.
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Thanks. It is good to know these things. I did not think it was a big deal for the other riders and not to mention for the organization who benefits greatly from the three boys showing up.boots911 said:i was in this year's pro12 race at nevada city, finished top twenty.
first off the rest of the pro12 field didn't care who was in the race, in fact before lance announced he was racing it, only 20 guys had pre-registered. on the day of the race, the field was full (125+ riders) before noon.
second, we see all sorts of pro riders in our races here in norcal, and in the early season we get pro tour guys entering our races quite often. had astana brought 9 guys to nevada city, i might consider that bullying. but three? not a problem, and dont care.
third, i've done this race three years in a row now, and finished top twenty every time. yes lance lapped us twice, but we also got lapped last year by nydam and england, and the year before darrin lil lapped us as well.
finally, the crowd was outstanding, and they cheered for everyone, not just lance. if this is what it takes to get bicycle racing back to the forefront (and give anther boost to the 2010 tour of california) im all for it.
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BroDeal said:As someone mentioned above, Armstrong and his posse's slumming has scewed the BMC team big time. That team might as well fold or downgrade its license.
Escarabajo said:It is probably a bigger deal for the three Astana riders that are in Nevada at this point when, maybe they should be in Europe doing some prep work.
bianchigirl said:I expect the Tour of Gila and the Nevada Classic to be full of Euro riders preparing for the Giro and Tour next year - after all, these races are obvioulsy so much more demanding and against so much tougher competition than the silly old Dauphine and the like
quadsRme said:I like this comment. It appears that some of the US riders would rather train in the US against lesser talent than participate in Europe where the real racing is. Just look at the outcome of the Giro and you can see what that great training in the US did for the the boys.
Although the hog needs to make appearance for his organ-I-zation. just had a new baby, I can understand why he is stateside versus over seas.
Time will tell as the saga continues with the hog returning to the grand Boucle, hopefully his bike will not be the same paint job as the Giro model....
Amsterhammer said:If he hadn't won, no doubt someone would have said, 'see, he can't even beat a bunch of amateurs'.
You can only beat the opposition you have.
quadsRme said:No, i didn't post that. He chose to train in the US versus in the tuneup races in Europe with the other pros. Plus he went out too early in the season and peaked early.
think, i gave that up years ago
Interestingly, Nevada City is in CA.Escarabajo said:It is probably a bigger deal for the three Astana riders that are in Nevada at this point when, maybe they should be in Europe doing some prep work.
My opinion, thanks.
jackhammer111 said:I wish someone would spend half as much time talking about the comings and goings and critiques of European teams as they do Astana.
Levi trains here because he lives here.
He's in shape early because he defends his Tour of California title, which has now been moved to May, which should give a great alternative to teams that want to focus on the Tour without griding up their riders in the Giro.
Uh, JB is the hog, not LA.quadsRme said:ime will tell as the saga continues with the hog returning to the grand Boucle, hopefully his bike will not be the same paint job as the Giro model....
I hear what you're saying, but I'd personally much rather win the Giro than the Tour of California.jackhammer111 said:He's in shape early because he defends his Tour of California title, which has now been moved to May, which should give a great alternative to teams that want to focus on the Tour without griding up their riders in the Giro.
Rice Daddy said:Unless they're a bunch of Russians and Italians in a super-hard grand tour...then you finish 12th.
Unlike Dr Ferrari, who gets a % of Lance's winnings. He won't be quiet at the end of the Tour.Bagster said:Well here we are on the eve of the TdF and suddenly those people are very quiet (people like Jonathon Vaughters) They are going to be a lot quieter at the end of this three weeks I predict.
patswana said:Unlike Dr Ferrari, who gets a % of Lance's winnings. He won't be quiet at the end of the Tour.
I predict that in four weeks ****er fanboys like you will be long gone from this forum. I love it when the tourists leave.Bagster said:This would have to be one of the stupidest comments I have seen on here. A "bunch of Russians and Italians"?? That doesn't need commenting on it's so dumb.
"then you finish 12th"?... Yes you do and most half intelligent, unbiased commentators who actually know something about the sport would say that: given it was his first Grand Tour in three years, plus the slight problem of a broken collarbone only weeks out from the Giro, 12th was a bloody good result.
I cast my mind back a little over six months ago when the naysayers were calling Armstrong's comeback a joke and how things had moved ahead, how he would be too old, too slow, just a publicity stunt. etc etc. Well here we are on the eve of the TdF and suddenly those people are very quiet (people like Jonathon Vaughters) They are going to be a lot quieter at the end of this three weeks I predict.
Thoughtforfood said:I predict that in four weeks ****er fanboys like you will be long gone from this forum. I love it when the tourists leave.
patswana said:Unlike Dr Ferrari, who gets a % of Lance's winnings. He won't be quiet at the end of the Tour.
Bagster said:Sorry pal but this fanboy has been with cyclingnews for years so not much chance of that. You just keep working on your latest conspiracy theory just in case. To be honest I don't really care who wins as long as it is exciting racing. Having said that it would be great to see LA win just because I know that it will make people like you gag. But hey, the upside would be that you could dream up a whole lot more non detectable reasons why he did it.
dimspace said:notice nobody has a problem with Brad Wiggins stickin it to the amateurs/semi pros in the beaumont trophy a couple of weeks ago..
rode straight off the front, took four of the best with him including russel downing, and then one by one just time triallied them off his wheel....
Didnt see them complaining though..