Bernie's eyesore said:
Maybe you should actually check your facts before making such an idiotic post. In the years when Hoy was racing at his peak, virtually every rider who had any success on the roads is now known to have doped. Where is the evidence that this was going on on the track?
Maybe you should tone it down before making such an idiotic post. Some fact checking might help too.
I was merely observing that, while it is common belief that most professional road cyclists dope, there is only anecdotal evidence of this.
For you to ask for proof that all track cyclists dope is as absurd as asking for proof that all road cyclists dope.
Moreover, your assertions on virtually every successful road cyclist are incorrect. There are at least six TdF winners during this period that have absolutely no record of doping - ever!
There are many, many events that have had winners with no doping positives. That falls well short of your "virtually every" assertion on "any success".
Fact: Doping in cycling arguably started on the track and was common practice in six day races.
You may recall that track cycling existed before the Tour. In other words, one discipline taught the other.
Fact: Hoy's career (world level) lasted from 1999 until his retirement in 2013.
Fact: The Tour de France participants for this period have ranged from 200 to 220 each year. The Tour participants are, of course, only a portion of the pro peloton.
Fact: There are less than 22 cyclists that actually tested positive at the Tour over this entire period. Or, less than one percent of a typical year's participants. There are clearly far more than 220 total participants over this period.
Thus, my casual twist of Pat McQuaid's assertion that 99% of cyclists are clean can be supported by the results from actual tests. Tests conducted at the premier event in the sport - i.e. where one would find the most successful participants.
If you believe that doping is more pervasive than 1% of the peloton, then where are your facts? If you have no facts, then how can you argue with the belief that other have that doping exists in track cycling?
Doping does exist in track cycling and it always has.
Dave.