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[Unchained]

Why am I not in the forum fight??

Why am I not in the forum fight??

The thread will probably go the way of the Jumbo Visa team merger.. Firecracker and then it's over..

 

[ManicJack]

The thread will probably go the way of the Jumbo Visa team merger.. Firecracker and then it's over..

I can't wait for all of the international employment law experts to tell us why the outcome, whatever it is, was wrong.

 

[Gargamel35]

Yell up the stairs to your mother next time because I will no longer hear it.

Perfect. Bye, kiddo.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Cite one post, anywhere in the history of this forum, when I have passed a comment of either liking or disliking Roglic.
If you can't, retract and apologise.

@Gargamel35 : still waiting...

 

[hrotha]

Cycling fans were a mistake

 

[Squire]

The only thing I'm ridiculing is your point. You assume there was a bullying, but of course you can't back that up. On the contrary, I'm pretty much sure there wasn't anything near bullying, and that's why I have an ironic/sarcastic tone. So now if you pretty please have some info of what really happened, aka, what indeed was that famous bullying, I would like to know, and if I was wrong, you will hear an excuse immediately.

I'm a bit late to the party, but it really irks me reading two pages of people attacking a point that wasn't made.

To anyone bothering to properly read their post, it was quite clear that Logic was making the point that what constitutes bullying is a very individual thing and not something others (with no real information) can easily judge. And that physically removing yourself from the environment where you experience bullying is a perfectly normal and useful reaction, and that not doing it can sometimes leave the situation unsolved no matter what measures are taken.

I didn't read anywhere that anyone claimed to have more information on whether bullying has taken place in the Cian case than what some journalist apparently have been told from good sources, and Logic even stated that they have no idea whether the allegations were correct.

 

[scribers]

I feel bullied into agreeing with your perfect logic

 

[Potomac]

cian uijtdebroeks

The name is too difficult for proper anglophones to deal with. Can come up with an official forum easy to remember and type name for him?

 

[AmRacer]

cian uijtdebroeks

The name is too difficult for proper anglophones to deal with. Can come up with an official forum easy to remember and type name for him?

Blo-blo-blo

 

[Wvv]

cian uijtdebroeks

The name is too difficult for proper anglophones to deal with. Can come up with an official forum easy to remember and type name for him?

Outthebrooks.

But just ''Cian'' will do, me thinks.

 

[Berniece]

cian uijtdebroeks

The name is too difficult for proper anglophones to deal with. Can come up with an official forum easy to remember and type name for him?

Most people only use his first name here.

 

[tobydawq]

See, @Ilmaestro99 just be making honest mistakes sometimes. Not easy to keep up with how different names from different countries and languages are spelled every time. I think everyone makes those mistakes. Sometimes you dont check twice if you spelled it right before posting. It happens.

Good that it was correct this time, so someone doesnt feel offended and has to point it out.

Sad that I couldn't keep my promise to myself to not come back to the forum before the new year. Then I wouldn't have had to read this post...

 

[Salvarani]

Sad that I couldn't keep my promise to myself to not come back to the forum before the new year. Then I wouldn't have had to read this post...

Merry Christmas, Toby.

 

[tobydawq]

Merry Christmas, Toby.

You too.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

cian uijtdebroeks

The name is too difficult for proper anglophones to deal with. Can come up with an official forum easy to remember and type name for him?

On behalf of anglophones (albeit one whose surname, like those of most of my countrymen, has been mangled and twisted for the ease of anglophones*), can I speak against the generalisation that we are too lazy, too unintelligent, or too spoiled by our language having become a global lingua franca to be bothered trying to get this, and other, names correct. Nor will I be resorting to the false friendliness of using nicknames or forenames to mask laziness/ignorance/entitledness.

*: Still not easy enough for many, as it has generally been reduced to Mr Mac in a work context.

 

[hrotha]

On behalf of anglophones (albeit one whose surname, like those of most of my countrymen, has been mangled and twisted for the ease of anglophones*), can I speak against the generalisation that we are too lazy, too unintelligent, or too spoiled by our language having become a global lingua franca to be bothered trying to get this, and other, names correct. Nor will I be resorting to the false friendliness of using nicknames or forenames to mask laziness/ignorance/entitledness.

*: Still not easy enough for many, as it has generally been reduced to Mr Mac.

This would be a lot more convincing if I didn't see like 17 viral tweets per week by Anglophones freaking out about how "unserious" Dutch looks

 

[red_flanders]

Not sure if this was posted yet, didn't see it on the last two pages, but I thought this was interesting from Bruyneel. Seems to think the relevant law here is Belgian employment law.

 

[ManicJack]

Not sure if this was posted yet, didn't see it on the last two pages, but I thought this was interesting from Bruyneel. Seems to think the relevant law here is Belgian employment law.

I watched that the other day and the funny thing is Spencer Martin sounded like he was repeating what he read on this forum and Bruyneel basically told him he was wrong.

 

[red_flanders]

I watched that the other day and the funny thing is Spencer Martin sounded like he was repeating what he read on this forum and Bruyneel basically told him he was wrong.

Yeah I don’t really get why they think Spencer Martin is so smart on that channel. Historically Bruyneel is very, very, accurate and insightful on almost every topic. Not infallible, but well worth listening to.

 

[scribers]

Spencer knows better. He’s just playing devils advocate very well. They spend a lot of time on twitter and understand the commonly misunderstood issues

 

[ManicJack]

Spencer knows better. He’s just playing devils advocate very well.

I've known him socially/casually for a number of years from the cycling community here in Boulder. He's a perfectly nice guy, but I'm 50/50 on that being true.

 

[scribers]

He frequently refers to industry insiders. He’s quite well connected and knowledgeable

 

[scribers]

Plus he’s much better than the golly-gee gomer Pyle act by JB Hager. Talk about a waste of air space

 

[red_flanders]

Spencer knows better. He’s just playing devils advocate very well. They spend a lot of time on twitter and understand the commonly misunderstood issues

My comments were more general. The team there lauds his "encyclopedic knowledge" of races, results, etc. Fair enough, but that isn't what makes the show interesting. For analysis, I don't think he adds anything. Can't recall a him ever saying anything I thought was insightful. Bruyneel on the other hand has something every time he's on. Often several somethings.

 

[scribers]

For sure. Bruyneel is a news maker just from his comments. But he’s terrible at leading a podcast. He is better in countering a protagonist or antagonist