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It's nothing to see and it's JLA there's nothing to see about. Cause Sam knows, he's got an inside line to the truth that no one else can access. Or he just makes crap up to suit the mood of the moment.Don’t worry, Sam will be along to tell us there’s nothing to see here any minute now.
What, as though Freeman was ordering testo for the W52 sputniks on the side? Now that would be a twist, ha.what does that even mean "knowing or believing", what else would you need banned substance for
"hey i need testogel"
"why?"
"eeeh, you know im a big fan of DJ Testo" badum,tss
thank you, ill be here all week
anyway, Raul Alarcon should get additional 4 year ban
ok...i'm not sam but i will do my best.......obv no one cares if the dr may still practice or not
or gets pinged by UKAD
what we need to know is who the testo was for? how much else was ordered and is
yet hidden ? then we will know what's to be seen...
Mark L
“Until this is cleared up, all those involved shouldn’t be anywhere near the sport. Clearly, there are questions to be answered and people should be suspended while this is properly investigated.”
Who is it? Come on now..don't be a teaseWRT joining the dots and ID'ing the rider the T-gel was for, two Tweets from Sean Ingle during the summing up in February are being used by some to single out the South African rider John-Lee Augustyn. The Tweets:
View: https://twitter.com/seaningle/status/1360181336435261443
Not finishing five races in a row suggests a road rider, not a trackie. If you dispute this please give a reason. For now, let's work with the probability it is a roadie, not a trackie.
Did JLA DNF five races in a row? Referring to CQ, I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing two DNFs at the end of 2010 and then no racing until July 2011 and a third consecutive DNF. Three is not five and July 2011 is after the Testogel was received at the medal factory. Have CQ missed races?
The other point here is "the programme." JLA is a Saffie, isn't he? Was he on British Cycling's podium programme? If it's not the podium programme what does "the programme" refer to (and bear in mind it comes from someone denying any doping was going on, so it's not that programme).
If less than five consecutive DNFs meets the five-in-a-row criteria in Ingle's Tweets and if not being on the BC podium programme meets the criteria in Ingle's Tweets are there any other riders to consider. Could be
Try Kurt Asle Arvesen, who DNFed three times in a row in 2011 (Paris-Roubaix, Amstel, ATOC). Or Serge Pauwels who DNFed three times across May, June and July 2011 (which puts him past the point the Testogel was ordered). Neither of them seem likely culprits, given "the programme" comment.
But what about Jeremy Hunt? DNF at the Ronde, Roubaix and ATOC. Followed (not quite consecutively) by a DNF in Luxembourg and preceded (not quite consecutively) by a DNF in Paris-Nice. Was he on the podium programme and does his retirement in 2012 count as falling out if he was?
So, Inspector Cluseau confidently pointing the finger at a Saffie notwithstanding, could it be that there's a Brit who better fits the frame?
Important to keep in the back of you mind, Sky were actually submitting more than they needed to to UCI at this time I believe. I can't remember the context or where I read this, but will try and find out. I vaguely remember they wanted to do more than the minimum and UCI allowed that because the blood checks are added to ADAMS too.
JLA crashed in stage 3 of the Vuelta that year and abandoned didn’t he? It’s a long time ago. Would also seem strange to link that to testosterone levels.WRT joining the dots and ID'ing the rider the T-gel was for, two Tweets from Sean Ingle during the summing up in February are being used by some to single out the South African rider John-Lee Augustyn. The Tweets:
View: https://twitter.com/seaningle/status/1360181336435261443
Not finishing five races in a row suggests a road rider, not a trackie. If you dispute this please give a reason. For now, let's work with the probability it is a roadie, not a trackie.
Did JLA DNF five races in a row? Referring to CQ, I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing two DNFs at the end of 2010 and then no racing until July 2011 and a third consecutive DNF. Three is not five and July 2011 is after the Testogel was received at the medal factory. Have CQ missed races?
The other point here is "the programme." JLA is a Saffie, isn't he? Was he on British Cycling's podium programme? If it's not the podium programme what does "the programme" refer to (and bear in mind it comes from someone denying any doping was going on, so it's not that programme).
If less than five consecutive DNFs meets the five-in-a-row criteria in Ingle's Tweets and if not being on the BC podium programme meets the criteria in Ingle's Tweets are there any other riders to consider. Could be
Try Kurt Asle Arvesen, who DNFed three times in a row in 2011 (Paris-Roubaix, Amstel, ATOC). Or Serge Pauwels who DNFed three times across May, June and July 2011 (which puts him past the point the Testogel was ordered). Neither of them seem likely culprits, given "the programme" comment.
But what about Jeremy Hunt? DNF at the Ronde, Roubaix and ATOC. Followed (not quite consecutively) by a DNF in Luxembourg and preceded (not quite consecutively) by a DNF in Paris-Nice. Was he on the podium programme and does his retirement in 2012 count as falling out if he was?
So, Inspector Cluseau confidently pointing the finger at a Saffie notwithstanding, could it be that there's a Brit who better fits the frame?
I'm not 'finding out' anything, I've definitely read what I claim and remembered precisely because I was surprised UCI were allowing the team to submit more rider data to the bio-passport than the UCI required as part of the minimum quarterly mandatory examinations.Submitting more ... did they also offer $100k to buy a blood testing machine?
Stick to concrete, Sam, rather than trying to ‘find out’. The media is binary; the house of cards is wobbling.
I think O'Rourke's point was the rider left the UCI medical program because he was let go by the team. He didn't improve, that's for sure, he didn't even race the next season until July 2011 and San Sebastian and that was a DNF too. He never races again and left Team Sky that season. According to O'Rourke/Freeman this was because he hadn't put in the effort. He was however later diagnosed with avascular necrosis caused by a crash in 2007.JLA crashed in stage 3 of the Vuelta that year and abandoned didn’t he? It’s a long time ago. Would also seem strange to link that to testosterone levels.
Steve Peters:
“The UCI said ‘you don’t need to be that rigorous; [Palfreemans proposed Team Sky Internal Testing Program] and if you’re that rigorous it’s extremely costly and it won’t pick up any more data than the biological passport’.
“It wasn’t that we rejected Roger’s plan or that we wriggled out of it. That’s so far from the truth.
“Roger was perfectly happy with the system we put in place instead, where we do take extra tests but we do it in collaboration with the UCI and WADA”.
Culture, media and Sport committee.What's CMS?