Colnago

[Bustedknuckle]

LOL, he must be an extremely busy man then!... having to slap all of his own marketing people

http://colnago.com/c60-italia-2014-2-2/?lang=am

As he should. Ugo would never stoop to being bribed by a Japanese.

http://cdn4.coresites.mpora.com/rcuk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/11-IMG_3557.jpg

 

[jcothron]

That De Rosa is a pretty bike for sure.

 

[richwagmn]

Colnago C60 by John Cothron, on Flickr

Gorgeous bike. And for my money, that DA 9000 stuff looks pretty sweet. I love the polished/black finish of that 9000 crankset.

 

[42x16ss]

As he should. Ugo would never stoop to being bribed by a Japanese.

http://cdn4.coresites.mpora.com/rcuk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/11-IMG_3557.jpg

I'd prefer some Hyperons over Fulcrums, but that is SWEET!

 

[Master50]

I'd prefer some Hyperons over Fulcrums, but that is SWEET!

I have noticed some Fulcrum wheels are even lighter than the Campy wheel they are modelled under. This year Fulcrum will deliver their red Passion wheel. it is based on the campy Shamal road wheel the mtb version is 40 grams lighter but you don't have a brake track on the MTB wheel so you can't use it without disk brakes.

Often the only difference is the name as they share many of the same parts.

 

[King Boonen]

I have noticed some Fulcrum wheels are even lighter than the Campy wheel they are modelled under. This year Fulcrum will deliver their red Passion wheel. it is based on the campy Shamal road wheel the mtb version is 40 grams lighter but you don't have a brake track on the MTB wheel so you can't use it without disk brakes.

Often the only difference is the name as they share many of the same parts.

Shimano freehub/hub is possibly the weight difference? I'm guessing the hubs are not cross-compatible with campag/shimsram freehubs otherwise why build fulcrums?

 

[simo1733]

Shimano freehub/hub is possibly the weight difference? I'm guessing the hubs are not cross-compatible with campag/shimsram freehubs otherwise why build fulcrums?

They build Fulcrums because people with Shimano groupsets won't buy campagnolo wheels.

 

[King Boonen]

They build Fulcrums because people with Shimano groupsets won't buy campagnolo wheels.

I would... Well, if I wanted factory wheels they'd be on the list if they worked. Do they?

 

[ray j willings]

IMO Colnagos look like bikes made for rich old men who used to play golf.

It reminds me of my first ride up Alpe d' Huez. There was quite a few overweight "tubby" chaps riding insanely expensive bikes and taking nearly 2 hours to get up Huez.

I do like the vintage one though.

 

[King Boonen]

IMO Colnagos look like bikes made for rich old men who used to play golf.

It reminds me of my first ride up Alpe d' Huez. There was quite a few overweight "tubby" chaps riding insanely expensive bikes and taking nearly 2 hours to get up Huez.

I do like the vintage one though.

So it's fine if they're on Pinarello Dogmas then? Or a Venge? Cervelo S5 is ok?

 

[blutto]

IMO Colnagos look like bikes made for rich old men who used to play golf.

It reminds me of my first ride up Alpe d' Huez. There was quite a few overweight "tubby" chaps riding insanely expensive bikes and taking nearly 2 hours to get up Huez.

I do like the vintage one though.

...well, they do have a bad rep for being a poseur's bike and that rep prejudiced me from buying a Colnago for a long time....was finally convinced to get one by the owner of a much respected LBS....and when I finally got to race the Colnago I was just blown away ( the first race I went into on that new frame was a crit that had this crazy high speed off camber corner that was plain scary but the Colnago just blew thru it like it was on rails...would typically get at least a couple of bike lengths advantage every time I went thru that corner...that day I developed a major man crush for Colnago frames...)

...the bottom line is the Colnagos that I have raced are flat out the best bikes I have ridden...great on the flats, climb well, track straight in sprint conditions, totally "throwable" in corners, comfortable on long rides...kinda reminds me of the BMW e39 M5 which is considered by many to be the ultimate highway monster ( in normal conditions it never drew attention to itself but when you wanted to put the hammer down, oooh whee baby it did everything soooo right...)

...and gosh they can be so pretty....and why ride an ugly nag when you can ride an industrial work of art that functions like a dream...

....maybe those "rich old men who used to play golf" are a lot smarter than the guys who fall for the bad rep thang that has no basis in functional fact...


Cheers

 

[42x16ss]

IMO Colnagos look like bikes made for rich old men who used to play golf.

It reminds me of my first ride up Alpe d' Huez. There was quite a few overweight "tubby" chaps riding insanely expensive bikes and taking nearly 2 hours to get up Huez.

I do like the vintage one though.

Nah, that demographic generally falls for the Cervelo/Specialized/Trek/Giant marketing hype

 

[jcothron]

So it's fine if they're on Pinarello Dogmas then? Or a Venge? Cervelo S5 is ok?

I own an S5... C60 is in another world by comparison, and I really like the S5.

 

[blutto]

I own an S5... C60 is in another world by comparison, and I really like the S5.

....so...."IMO Colnagos look like" is the issue and you ride an S5....ok....

Cheers

 

[42x16ss]

....so...."IMO Colnagos look like" is the issue and you ride an S5....ok....

Cheers

If you look further upthread you'll see he has one of each- and prefers the C60

Make of that what you will...

 

[42x16ss]

I have noticed some Fulcrum wheels are even lighter than the Campy wheel they are modelled under. This year Fulcrum will deliver their red Passion wheel. it is based on the campy Shamal road wheel the mtb version is 40 grams lighter but you don't have a brake track on the MTB wheel so you can't use it without disk brakes.

Often the only difference is the name as they share many of the same parts.

I was just being pedantic

Oh, that and I love Campy

 

[Master50]

Shimano freehub/hub is possibly the weight difference? I'm guessing the hubs are not cross-compatible with campag/shimsram freehubs otherwise why build fulcrums?

All Campy wheels can exchange freehubs. Fulcrum is not made in Italy. Some campy things are different like G3 spoke pattern even though the Fulcrums still use 2 to 1 spoke counts on some of their high end wheels. They are both owned by Campagnolo. Many parts are compatible too.
Why 2 identities? I think just to get some production out of Italy without leaving Europe? What do I know about European tax laws?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

All Campy wheels can exchange freehubs. Fulcrum is not made in Italy. Some campy things are different like G3 spoke pattern even though the Fulcrums still use 2 to 1 spoke counts on some of their high end wheels. They are both owned by Campagnolo. Many parts are compatible too.
Why 2 identities? I think just to get some production out of Italy without leaving Europe? What do I know about European tax laws?

Campagnolo is already getting a lot of production out of Italy. Many of their groupsets are made in Romania.

 

[King Boonen]

I own an S5... C60 is in another world by comparison, and I really like the S5.

I was more pointing out the ridiculousness of singling out Colnago in his original statement when any of the other expensive brands could just as easily be viewed in the same way. It's also the kind of elitist rubbish that puts people off cycling.

 

[blutto]

If you look further upthread you'll see he has one of each- and prefers the C60

Make of that what you will...

...guess my post missed the intended mark...wasn't trying to be derogatory or anything....was meant simply as a comment about the point about looks and owning an S5 which, and lets be generous here, is weird looking...probably rides well but the look would make me shy away....

...a case of YMMV....which is cool....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

It's also the kind of elitist rubbish that puts people off cycling.

...yeah and sends them into purgatory, errr, triathlon ............

Cheers

 

[King Boonen]

...yeah and send them into purgatory, errr, triathlon ............

Cheers

Actually spat my coffee out!

Single origin, small batch roast macchiato of course!!

 

[ray j willings]

So it's fine if they're on Pinarello Dogmas then? Or a Venge? Cervelo S5 is ok?

Would not be seen dead on a Pinarello . Heavy and unbalanced and way way over priced. I don't like the venge. Hate the shape of the tubes. Cervelo S5 nearly falls into the comedy zone. Horrible.

I am weight weenie . My main frame is a ?5000 custom made Guru photon which without a doubt is the best bike I have ever rode.

I just do not like the conservative look of the Colnago. Maybe no spacers a slammed stem. Some ultra light WW parts and it might be a bit more my style

 

[King Boonen]

Would not be seen dead on a Pinarello . Heavy and unbalanced and way way over priced. I don't like the venge. Hate the shape of the tubes. Cervelo S5 nearly falls into the comedy zone. Horrible.

I am weight weenie . My main frame is a ?5000 custom made Guru photon which without a doubt is the best bike I have ever rode.

I just do not like the conservative look of the Colnago. Maybe no spacers a slammed stem. Some ultra light WW parts and it might be a bit more my style

It was more the picking on Colnago as the "Golf club replacement" for all those executives, when in reality any of the high-end, well-known brands fit into that bracket. It's probably more location dependent too, when I was in London I saw loads of Dogmas being ridden around at 12-15 kph.

But more power to them, if they have the cash, want that bike for whatever reason and it gets them out cycling I'm all for it. Like with my other hobby (guitars), I think some of the prices paid for electrics are insane but if they have the cash and want to do it then more power to them.



I'm not a weight weenie at all! Give me a 853 frame (or equivalent Columbus tubing) possibly a carbon fork but preferably steel and high spoke count wheels. If it's too heavy then I'm too weak

 

[blutto]

Single origin, small batch roast macchiato of course!!

....ahhhh....the C40 of coffees....

Cheers