Colombia - Coldeportes

[will10]

Like ryo said they had 5 days. how many did wiggo do buy the way thats right he did algarve and how many did horner do.theres no excuses they didnt even put their nose in the wind if they want good invites they should look to at least try.

And you should call yourself the troll accuser it must be your fav word m8

Nice try .

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

lol @ this troll.

 

[Froome19]

Well so they should do better no 1 will go flat out it's Giro prep

For Giro 2013 I assume you mean

 

[Escarabajo]

Ha ha and you was saying watch the colombians tear the race apart they cant ride the flats cant go downhill and are frankly average in the mountains in general.rujano is best south american but hes not great were did e come in giro he asnt devolped since 2005.

This make me laugh.

 

[pmcg76]

The biggest laugh I see in this thread is a guy pointing out the obvious and lots of other people calling them a troll for doing so.

If certain posters give ridiculous hyperbole to riders and teams, then when it goes wrong, I think they can expect plenty of abuse in response. Rather than admit they might be wrong, they instead put forward excuse after excuse.

The colombians might eventually come good but that is not what those now shouting troll were saying before T-A. According to the know-it-alls, Coldeportes and in particular Duarte were going to tear it up in the mountains in T-A. Instead of being good, they have been horrifically bad. Period. That is the cold reality of the now, not 2-3 months down the road.

I feel sorry for the likes of Escarberjo and Hfer etc who are realistic but as usual its the fanboys of certain riders and team who annoy everyone else with their idiotic postings. If people like ACF and Airstream and others are allowed to be made fun of because of their chosen fanboyism, I dont see why it should be any different for those who champion Coldeportes. Problem is they cant handle it. Its amazing how you dont mind and even like riders or teams but their fanboys kinda puts you of them.

"Excuses are like backsides, everyone has got one and they dont smell of roses"

 

[Michele]

Tear it up in the mountains with 3 days of racing?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

and what mountains? they've seen zero

 

[theyoungest]

Come on, those things they rode over yesterday, those were mountains. If ever there was a Tirreno course tailor made for Colombians, it's this one.

 

[hfer07]

At the end of the day- I hope they can learn a lot from this experience & move forward- there is no need to come up with lame explanations & justifications for a very poor performance in T-A: I've read from some folks here they lacked the Kms in training prior to the race & the adaptation process have costed them dearly to overcome-but I ask myself if it is really truth, since the Team has been already working for a while, & having an open opportunity to excel such this one-then the entire operation should have been prioritized & handled much better. On the last 2 stages, there were some sparks ignited by Duarte, which is a good sign, but the rest of the group didn't quite do anything at all. I wouldn't have hesitated to send as many riders in the breakaways as possible- even if failure was gonna happen- the exposure & the initiative to be an active part of the race, would have given them a higher score....

Time will tell.....

 

[Froome19]

Come on, those things they rode over yesterday, those were mountains. If ever there was a Tirreno course tailor made for Colombians, it's this one.

Yeh but they've never had a proper sight of them, as they've been at the back throughout

 

[profff]

At the end of the day- I hope they can learn a lot from this experience & move forward- there is no need to come up with lame explanations & justifications for a very poor performance in T-A: I've read from some folks here they lacked the Kms in training prior to the race & the adaptation process have costed them dearly to overcome-but I ask myself if it is really truth, since the Team has been already working for a while, & having an open opportunity to excel such this one-then the entire operation should have been prioritized & handled much better. On the last 2 stages, there were some sparks ignited by Duarte, which is a good sign, but the rest of the group didn't quite do anything at all. I wouldn't have hesitated to send as many riders in the breakaways as possible- even if failure was gonna happen- the exposure & the initiative to be an active part of the race, would have given them a higher score....

Time will tell.....

+1
they should have tried to show theirself in the breakaways....
they looked very confident before the race when tweeting, but that counts nothing.

i add that the actual failure of colombia coldeportes it is not the only thing happening in colombian cycling.
there are the good performances of quintana in murcia, uran in P-N and henao in mallorca.
so , people like me that believe that among young colombians there are talents are confident on one side , but on the other we have no trouble to admit that duarte, coldeportes and also betancourt were deceiving.

colombian cycling is not different from other national movements: there are riders going well and others going bad
the same happens in italy, with nibali and gatto on one side and basso on the other, in holland with westra on the good side and others not yet performing well and so on.
we are only in march, the season is at the beginning.
time will tell, even if it is now clear that colombia coldeportes will be a difficult operation in the first year.
they need to improve,they have to work, they need stronger rider in the future , may be beltran may be infantino, maybe others, to support the project.


+1

 

[IVAN BASSO]

This make me laugh.

Please inform me

 

[IVAN BASSO]

Tear it up in the mountains with 3 days of racing?

Well when was the last time any colombian beat good competiton on a mountain in european racing.Fanboys give them the hype well prepare for a backlash when it goes wrong

THIS POST IS OVI A TROLL

 

[Escarabajo]

Please inform me

So he is the best of South America or he has the potential to be the best of South America?

Do you know how many races the Colombians have won or performed well since his last great Giro performance?

Do you know anything about the Colombian Cycling?

 

[IVAN BASSO]

Are you dumb the best south american for results in european peloton name someone better than rujano.i understand a little yes but colombians havn't done nothing great in europe. You cant compare your amatuer competition to european racing so i think my comment or rujano being best south american is valid u plumb.

They get hyped to much lets be honest duarte will never get a GT podium i could be wrong quintana i think theirs possibly good chance but i doubt it.

My spelling's not great

 

[IVAN BASSO]

Escarabojo why you remove your post is it because you look stupid lol

 

[Michele]

You make some good points, but then make some much less good points as I think no one in this forum expect Duarte to make a GT podium.

Fanboys is all over the forum but seriously you must wait the end of the year for get a decent conclusion on how the team went, as hfer07 said in his post.

 

[hrotha]

It's so funny that you guys keep talking in the plural, when there's only one fanboy around here.

The rest are supporters with more or less moderate and overall reasonable expectations.

 

[Michele]

I was talking of fanboyism in general, not related to colombian only.

 

[FF'Wilco]

Coldeportes failed badly today. Best placed rider was Suarez who was in early breakaway. Rest either in grupetto or dnf. Some of them (four ?) were dropped with Cavendish. Its not their terrain, i know, but still, they really sucked, If guys like Vila (pure climber, far away from his best years) can finish in top50 despite making pointless attack on Cipressa then all pure climbers from Coldeportes should be able to do at least the same.

Anyway i wish them all the best, races like Coppi Bartali and CI will suit them much better.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

vila isn't a pure climber at all. besides I think it's been said countless of times. they are totally out of shape. that doesn't change in a few days time. wait for april at best

 

[killswitch]

they are totally out of shape.

And whose fault is that? Since they aren't invited to the Giro.

 

[roundabout]

Coldeportes failed badly today. Best placed rider was Suarez who was in early breakaway. Rest either in grupetto or dnf. Some of them (four ?) were dropped with Cavendish. Its not their terrain, i know, but still, they really sucked, If guys like Vila (pure climber, far away from his best years) can finish in top50 despite making pointless attack on Cipressa then all pure climbers from Coldeportes should be able to do at least the same.

Anyway i wish them all the best, races like Coppo Bartali and CI will suit them much better.

They didn't do good but also it was pretty moronic from RCS to give them a wildcard for this particular race to begin with.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

And whose fault is that? Since they aren't invited to the Giro.

corti

also, half the team of today didn't ride tirreno so yeah they were even worse out of shape but then again the team riding today should've done tirreno in the first place as they were more suited to it then guys like atapuma, that are pure climbers. so far corti has made a mess. still I expect he will learn from it and things will improve. they all have to make mistakes before you know how to continue.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

They didn't do good but also it was pretty moronic from RCS to give them a wildcard for this particular race to begin with.

yet, did they do any worse than team type 1 for instance? no. both had a guy in teh break and sucked for the rest of the race and these aren't the races coldeportes are supposed to be good at yet this is where team type 1 should eb with their sprinters and rouleurs