Colombia - Coldeportes

[Ryo Hazuki]

Of course Saxo will be invited with Kreuziger and Bennati.

maybe if they pay acquarone cash, otherwise no chance. bennatti is nobody in italy and so is kreuziger

 

[greenedge]

Bennati and Kreuziger won 2 GT stages this year- of course SBS could be invited to the Giro. Also Bennati could go quite well at races like SB (he did good work for Cancellara this year) and could enjoy a career renaissance under Riis.
I want Coldportes to be invited as well but i could understand if SBS were more likely to go to the Giro over CC.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

farnese, colnago, coldeportes(corti), argos, would all be selected before saxo, unless like I said saxo would pay money like netapp did this year. and there are only 3 wildcards to give

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

haven't read it here yet, but corti has stated in a recent interview that they have 90% chance of doing the giro or the tour next year. especially aso love them and to me they have biggest chance of doing the tour and vuelta.

 

[the asian]

Good day for Colombia Coldeporte as they secure wild cards for the Giro and Lombardia.
They do miss out on T/A and MSR.
Can't have them all.

Interesting dilemma for them if they secure a wild card spot for the Tour as well, whether to start the trio of Chaves, Duarte and Atapuma or to save one or two for the tour.

 

[jens_attacks]

no way they can do tour too. it will be a mistake.
i think for this year giro is great and hopefully they can get in the vuelta too.

 

[staubsauger]

Yeah hopefully Coldeportes will be left out of the Tour, but will instead be in for the Vuelta!

 

[hfer07]

no way they can do tour too. it will be a mistake.i think for this year giro is great and hopefully they can get in the vuelta too.

Why a mistake???
Prudhomme said he was looking forward to grant an Invitation to them IF they get the results to deserve it-so If they win stages in the Giro while providing excitement - I don't see why don't they deserve a spot Mark my words: If Colombia Team gets to ride the Tour - ASO & the world will not regret it!!!

I do agree however- if they perform discrectly to poor-then yes- It could be a mistake and better off saving the men for the Vuelta.

 

[will10]

Worrying thing, regardless of what Ryo will say, is squad depth. This team built around the Giro would be cracking, spreading them across Giro & Tour might be a disaster.

 

[Gloin22]

Worrying thing, regardless of what Ryo will say, is squad depth. This team built around the Giro would be cracking, spreading them across Giro & Tour might be a disaster.

Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.

 

[Ruudz0r]

Atapuma will probably lose around 8 minutes in the TT

 

[Gloin22]

Atapuma will probably lose around 8 minutes in the TT

That's why I didn't mention GC at any point when talking about him

It's unlikely any of Colombia guys can challenge for GC.

Stages / KOM are much better option. And Atapuma is the best guy there for me.

 

[staubsauger]

Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.

The most important think should be to get grand tour experience plus some confidence due to riding attractive and maybe even getting some nice results @ il giro.

Than they hopefully could archive anything real great @ La Vuelta with Chaves.

The giro will be an important lesson for Coldeportes anyway!

 

[jens_attacks]

Why a mistake???
Prudhomme said he was looking forward to grant an Invitation to them IF they get the results to deserve it-so If they win stages in the Giro while providing excitement - I don't see why don't they deserve a spot Mark my words: If Colombia Team gets to ride the Tour - ASO & the world will not regret it!!!

I do agree however- if they perform discrectly to poor-then yes- It could be a mistake and better off saving the men for the Vuelta.

they are not exactly team sky in depth
they can't make giro-tour succesfully. not this year of course
better do first first grand tour with all the ammunition than two grand tours being average
until the vuelta though they can recover.
keep the tour for next year.

 

[Ferminal]

That's why I didn't mention GC at any point when talking about him

It's unlikely any of Colombia guys can challenge for GC.

Stages / KOM are much better option. And Atapuma is the best guy there for me.

Atapuma has 1-2 good days a year. So hopefully he picks the right day.

 

[Duartista]

Atapuma has 1-2 good days a year. So hopefully he picks the right day.

Atapuma's greatest strength (apart from climbing) is his recovery. I'd be far more confident about him performing in the final week than Duarte or Chaves.

 

[will10]

Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.

Talk about splitting hairs. jens has it spot on - the depth of the squad is too thin for two consecutive GTs, but they could easily pick a competitive team for the Giro. Atapuma, Chaves, Duarte, Duque (A GT stage winner, albeit a while back ), how many leaders do you want?

Where does this obsession with riding for GC come from? Guys get ripped apart by this forum for riding an anonymous top 10. I don't think any of us expect or want to see a guy like Chaves riding like Zubeldia at the Tour last year. If anyone does end up high on GC it will be the way Rujano/Parra did in 2005 - by losing a chunk of time early on then getting a load back in a break in the mountains when given some freedom by the GC guys. A stage win would be a huge success and that will be the aim, not GC. Expect attractive riding and some TV time, not an anonymous top 15 on GC.

Also I think you underestimate Duarte. He's already shown he can be competitive at the Giro when with Geox (would've already been a stage winner if not for the immortal Pieter Weening ).

 

[Duartista]

Duarte was pretty disappointing last year, overall. Hopefully he can get back to his 2011-2012 (pre-injury) level.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

no way they can do tour too. it will be a mistake.
i think for this year giro is great and hopefully they can get in the vuelta too.

they said if they do both giro and tour they will get some extra riders. imo they should go for it and save duarte and suarez for tour or something and atapuma and chaves for giro. the tour is way more important in colombia and can really mean a lot historically

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.

you clearly haven't got a clue about the team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Duarte was pretty disappointing last year, overall. Hopefully he can get back to his 2011-2012 (pre-injury) level.

he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)

 

[Alphabet]

I'd love it if they got a wildcard for the Tour as well. I've heard a lot but seen little of these guys, and I am quite excited at the thought of seeing them next year at the Giro.

 

[jens_attacks]

he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)

i hope they learned their lesson and will stay in south america to train instead of freezing in europe like they did last year. the colombians not coming prepared 100% to il giro would be devastating for the show.

 

[Duartista]

he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)

There has to be a big question mark over Suarez after last year. The other 3 showed something in spite of their poor pre-season, whereas he was consistently terrible. Atapuma was only in Colombia one week longer than the others - check his twitter from last January.

 

[Gloin22]

you clearly haven't got a clue about the team.

Let's wait and see what they do at Giro first then