Colombia Oro y Paz (2.1), 06.02-10.02

[DNP-Old]

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Cute Henao Junior

 

[hfer07]

Do we know if OyP will be televised? I read somewhere Senal Colombia might broadcast it, but not 100% sure.
Thanks in advance for any info & links

 

[Tim Booth]

Do we know if OyP will be televised? I read somewhere Senal Colombia might broadcast it, but not 100% sure.
Thanks in advance for any info & links

check
http://www.cyclingfans.com/colombia-oro-y-paz/live
who say Live video from 12:00pm local (18:00 CET)
&
http://www.steephill.tv/colombia-oro-y-paz/
for streams

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Broadcast Times Colombia Oro y Paz
http://www.senalcolombia.tv/deportes/colombia-oro-y-paz-sera-transmitida-por-senal-colombia
Local times & CET (I think)
Etapa 1: 6 Feb - 10:15 a 12:15 = 16:15 - 18:15 CET
Etapa 2: 7 Feb – 12:30 a 14:30 = 18:30 - 20:30 CET
Etapa 3: 8 Feb - 11:50 a 13:50 = 17:50 - 19:50 CET
Etapa 4: 9 Feb - 11:50 a 13:50 = 17:50 - 19:50 CET
Etapa 5: 10Feb - 11:30 a 13:30 = 17:30 - 19:30 CET
Etapa 6: 11Feb - 12:30 a 14:30 = 18:30 - 20:30 CET

now we just need a feed and
cross fingers for their helicopter downlinks

 

[hfer07]

Do we know if OyP will be televised? I read somewhere Senal Colombia might broadcast it, but not 100% sure.
Thanks in advance for any info & links

check
http://www.cyclingfans.com/colombia-oro-y-paz/live
who say Live video from 12:00pm local (18:00 CET)
&
http://www.steephill.tv/colombia-oro-y-paz/
for streams

Thank you very much

 

[hfer07]

It appears the broadcast is Geo restricted

 

[DNP-Old]

Re:

It appears the broadcast is Geo restricted

It isn't.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What a crappy route

 

[jaylew]

Looks fine to me.

 

[Tim Booth]

can't see Gaviria winning the last stage

 

[DNP-Old]

Re:

What a crappy route

It's a good route. Could it have been better? Sure. But we're living in February, you can't send a peloton that's in full buildup mode up the mythical climbs that are either way too tough or way too high.

 

[Tim Booth]

Re: Re:

Touché. However, that is just stupid...

no, it's just that 2 teams who were originally invited cannot attend.

Then the conclusion seems to be that I'm just ignorant on the subject

the revised startlist (with 'logical' backnumbers)
www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=MjkxMjg=

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

What a crappy route

Not much that the organization can do about it in the first year and in February.

 

[slosada]

The route? They are taking the same highway up and down for 5 days... They are missing tourist spots like Lago Calima or Parque del Café... They have 3 pancake flat stages followed by 2 hilltop finishes and one MTF. That stage to Manizales could have had at least another cat2 at El Roble.
And what about a short ITT to balance things?
I guess the Public Works Ministry is sponsoring the race and they want to showcase the roads as they did in Vuelta a Colombia the last 2 or 3 years
Nobody is asking for Letras o La Línea, but San Luis was able to put El Mirador, El Amago and Comechingones in January...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

What a crappy route

Not much that the organization can do about it in the first year and in February.

What a crappy route

It's a good route. Could it have been better? Sure. But we're living in February, you can't send a peloton that's in full buildup mode up the mythical climbs that are either way too tough or way too high.

No reason to get defensive, its a bad route. As the poster above said, Im not asking for mythical climbs like La Linea, but a route where its actually possible to race outside the last 3-4 kilometres. We basically have 3 pancake flat stages followed up by 2 pancake stages with a shallow hilltop-finish. Thats not really acceptable. Its Colombia, this route looks like a Abu Dhabi carbon copy minus the TT which also would have been really welcome. Christ, the San Juan-route is more inspiring than this, I think...

So what its February? Again referring to the poster above, that shouldn't scare you from including actual climbs like San Luis - and then we are talking mid January, not February. Just because you are an early season race doesn't mean you need to make anti-racing routes like TDU-routes where you can pack all the highlights from the race into a 2-minute video. If you think its too hard, don't race it, damnit. The riders are training at much, much more difficult terrain, a few harder hills/mountains wouldn't hurt. At least just spice it a bit up.....

 

[fauniera]

The Tour of Oman has a harder climb than Colombia Oro y Paz ffs.

 

[Arked]

Well, I'm not watching this then I say no to pancake flat stage races. I still have Tour of Britain 2017 trauma.

 

[Tim Booth]

Well, I'm not watching this then I say no to pancake flat stage races. I still have Tour of Britain 2017 trauma.

yep, pancake flat
http://movistarteam.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/COP-perfil-Chipre.jpg

 

[jaylew]

From the CN article:

The organizers, however, have heeded the advice of the WorldTour pros and laid on a six-stage route that’s respectful of its early slot in the 2018 calendar.

 

[Escarabajo]

I know is a crappy route. Again not much we can do this time around for being the first time. I don't think we'll do this soft route again.

Not being defensive. Being realistic about the situation unfortunately.

BTW, good crowds on the presentation:

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/24820-colombia-oro-y-paz-arranco-con-presentacion-de-los-25-equipos.html

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/colombian-pros-feted-at-oro-y-paz-teams-presentation-gallery/

 

[Velolover2]

Well, I'm not watching this then I say no to pancake flat stage races. I still have Tour of Britain 2017 trauma.

yep, pancake flat
http://movistarteam.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/COP-perfil-Chipre.jpg

Take out the k between 17 and 18, and you'll have a Impey/Alabasini-like winner.

 

[tristecsinamigos]

For the first edition it's an ok route. You don't know how the European riders will feel in such new terrain/climate/altitude.

 

[slosada]

Re:

From the CN article:

The organizers, however, have heeded the advice of the WorldTour pros and laid on a six-stage route that’s respectful of its early slot in the 2018 calendar.

Yet, all four WT teams present are led by Colombians... And probably Alaphilippe is the only foreigner with chances to score stages
Heck, even the PCT teams, a good amount are led by Colombians

 

[Dukerojo]

envivo.senalcolombia.tv/senal-en-vivo/