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I don't know about you, but a new year of cycling wouldn't be complete without Chris Horner chiming in with his analysis and making up words to describe things like bonus seconds. It's "bonification" time, baby! Let's go!
I submit that Chris Horner is the only person on earth who can make a bike race sound exciting from km 0. The fact he does it without the use of highlights makes his analysis even more impressive. Some network needs to hire this guy, pronto.
CH and CK would make a great team.
 
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Kirby seeing a Cofidis rider (with German national stripes on his sleeves btw) bridge to Donnenwirth on the climb up to Montjuic: "I wouldn't be surprised if this is Aniolkowski, you know"

You know, Carlton, Aniolkowski is a pure sprinter, from Poland not Germany, who abandoned the race before stage 4. So, I would be suprised by that indeed.

Reading the startlist or knowing anything about rider type, apparence or nationality is just too much to ask? @the delgados
 
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Kirby seeing a Cofidis rider (with German national stripes on his sleeves btw) bridge to Donnenwirth on the climb up to Montjuic: "I wouldn't be surprised if this is Aniolkowski, you know"

You know, Carlton, Aniolkowski is a pure sprinter, from Poland not Germany, who abandoned the race before stage 4. So, I would be suprised by that indeed.

Reading the startlist or knowing anything about rider type, apparence or nationality is just too much to ask? @the delgados
Reading the startlist is a reasonable request. Reading a startlist after jetting over from Ireland the night after commentating on the World Dart Championships is a task few can complete.
Very few people know this, but prior to calling this race, CK spent the previous week calling a bullfight in some godforsaken part of Spain. Before that he provided entertainment for fans of lawn bowling. That's right, he was there to record for history the thrilling finale of the World Lawn Bowling Championships.
The man is busy, is what I'm saying. I have yet to see the unfortunate time where he mis-identified the rider in question, so I can't say for sure he couldn't see the number on the rider's back. Camera angles can be tricky, too. Just ask every other commentator who has made the same mistake.
But you are correct -- my man CK made an error. So does everyone else.
 
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Reading the startlist is a reasonable request. Reading a startlist after jetting over from Ireland the night after commentating on the World Dart Championships is a task few can complete.
Very few people know this, but prior to calling this race, CK spent the previous week calling a bullfight in some godforsaken part of Spain. Before that he provided entertainment for fans of lawn bowling. That's right, he was there to record for history the thrilling finale of the World Lawn Bowling Championships.
The man is busy, is what I'm saying. I have yet to see the unfortunate time where he mis-identified the rider in question, so I can't say for sure he couldn't see the number on the rider's back. Camera angles can be tricky, too. Just ask every other commentator who has made the same mistake.
But you are correct -- my man CK made an error. So does everyone else.
Whaat?:tearsofjoy:

I will concede that combining commentary of cycling, dart, bullfighting, and lawn bowling is an absolute epic combination of skills and knowledge. Well played sir!

For me it's not about identifying the correct rider as much as it is about thinking that a pure sprinter would dart out of the peloton on a tough climb (and especially if he has abandoned the race several stages ago...). But I'll give you this one. I did appreciate the jokes about Quinn Simmons starting a band.
 
I don't know about you, but a new year of cycling wouldn't be complete without Chris Horner chiming in with his analysis and making up words to describe things like bonus seconds. It's "bonification" time, baby! Let's go!
I submit that Chris Horner is the only person on earth who can make a bike race sound exciting from km 0. The fact he does it without the use of highlights makes his analysis even more impressive. Some network needs to hire this guy, pronto.
CH and CK would make a great team.
Fewer Americans and Brits commentating races, please. Aussies are ok though.
 
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Fewer Americans and Brits commentating races, please. Aussies are ok though.
Moose McKnuckles: I can only speak from the Commonwealth perspective, but there ain't no Phil Liggett's honing their craft in Canada -- never mind Botswana or The Gambia.
Do you have any suggestions other than the lovely and talented Robbie McEwen from Australia? The cupboard is pretty bare here.
 
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Reading the startlist is a reasonable request. Reading a startlist after jetting over from Ireland the night after commentating on the World Dart Championships is a task few can complete.
Very few people know this, but prior to calling this race, CK spent the previous week calling a bullfight in some godforsaken part of Spain. Before that he provided entertainment for fans of lawn bowling. That's right, he was there to record for history the thrilling finale of the World Lawn Bowling Championships.
The man is busy, is what I'm saying. I have yet to see the unfortunate time where he mis-identified the rider in question, so I can't say for sure he couldn't see the number on the rider's back. Camera angles can be tricky, too. Just ask every other commentator who has made the same mistake.
But you are correct -- my man CK made an error. So does everyone else.
It seems you're as good at fibbing as your man CK
 
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In my region, Max has been streaming some cycling races, some from Eurosport with a profusion of languages, some from TNT with only the options of English or ambient sound.

Since I couldn't find another source for E3, I followed the TNT replay on Max, with commentary by Rob and Hannah until I could no longer stand them anymore and turned to ambient. Rob's commentary is portentious and over-dramatic, Hannah is barely articulate, and neither seems to have prepared for the race. By comparison, Rodrigo Beekens on the RTBF will provide capsule descriptions of every rider in the break, and he has obviously prepared a list of topics for the JRA portions of the race, so he's not saying "ooh, they're taking that left-hand turn now".

I would have watched the race on the RTBF, but it lost the rights to the Flanders Classics to private broadcaster RTL whose live streaming is not convenient for my time zone. And the private service doesn't provide replays, at least none that I could find. Fortunately, there do seem to be other sources for Holy Week.
 
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Reading the startlist is a reasonable request. Reading a startlist after jetting over from Ireland the night after commentating on the World Dart Championships is a task few can complete.
Very few people know this, but prior to calling this race, CK spent the previous week calling a bullfight in some godforsaken part of Spain. Before that he provided entertainment for fans of lawn bowling. That's right, he was there to record for history the thrilling finale of the World Lawn Bowling Championships.
The man is busy, is what I'm saying. I have yet to see the unfortunate time where he mis-identified the rider in question, so I can't say for sure he couldn't see the number on the rider's back. Camera angles can be tricky, too. Just ask every other commentator who has made the same mistake.
But you are correct -- my man CK made an error. So does everyone else.
Paris-Dakar, Le Mans.....I will believe.
 
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It seems you're as good at fibbing as your man Carlton Kirby.

Paris-Dakar, Le Mans.....I will believe.
See?! He does that, too!
If CK announced the next driver in Le Mans as the pure Polish cycling sprinter Aniolkowski, I'd have some cause for concern. Maybe it would be time to encourage my man to take a bit of a holiday for a couple weeks.
But no, he momentarily mis-identified a rider at a certain point of a bike race. If you listen to the pitch-fork-wielding mob on this forum, you might share the same outrage.
But let me ask you this: Did his colleague correct the error? If not, why not rail on that guy? I'm sure he didn't call the Indianapolis 500 the day before.
 
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If CK announced the next driver in Le Mans as the pure Polish cycling sprinter Aniolkowski, I'd have some cause for concern.
;)
But no, he momentarily mis-identified a rider at a certain point of a bike race. If you listen to the pitch-fork-wielding mob on this forum, you might share the same outrage.
I feel targeted, my friend :sweatsmile:

To put it in the style of CK: I suppose he just forked the wrong rider. The pitch-fork mob should spear his mistake!

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(Carlton bursts out laughing while the decisive attacks happen)
 
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Watching GW back. Brian Smith is horrendous. 28km he's saying its possible for Mads to be pulled back. 2km later he's saying its too late. No time gain in that 2km. Make your mind up Brian you dour bore.
 
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This is a bit off-topic, but today I watched the last 20 km's of the Route Adelie de Vitre, and it occurred to me that play-by-play roadside commentator sounds exactly like every other French commentator.
Regardless of whether it's a stage of le Tour, or some backroads race like le Route Adelaide de Vitra, I'm hearing the same frenetic pace and tone of voice. It doesn't matter whether there's three laps of a circuit left to go or one -- the guy seems to be losing his mind with excitement.
Does anyone know if I'm referring to one person? Does he travel everywhere and call every race like it's his last. Is he the French version of Carlton Kirby?
 
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Does anyone know if I'm referring to one person? Does he travel everywhere and call every race like it's his last. Is he the French version of Carlton Kirby?
The speaker at the finish today was Damien Martin, who indeed also does the same job at the Tour de France, for example. No idea if he really does all the French races, though.
 
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Daniel Mangeas was always the man. If Damien Martin is his successor it's a heavy workload to take on. Mandeas covered over 100 races a year for almost ever.
 
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Not WB brand, but we don't seem to have a thread for general commentating.

Ritter's sense of time seems a little off today.
First he said that Wanty got their first win this year "a few days ago", then that Krijnsen won his PNDKR stage "a few years ago".
 
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Not WB brand, but we don't seem to have a thread for general commentating.

Ritter's sense of time seems a little off today.
First he said that Wanty got their first win this year "a few days ago", then that Krijnsen won his PNDKR stage "a few years ago".

The team will always be Wanty to me, so I'm glad that Ritter agrees.
 
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