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[Netserk]

2009 tour and 2012 suisse finished at périn

 

[Peyresourde]

Thanks, I rechecked it again 2 times just now. I am not 100% sure which side street the finish was on, but it should be between 1478 and 1484. So my estimate is on the upper end and I will think about removing a few meters.

 

[mikks]

Thanks, I rechecked it again 2 times just now. I am not 100% sure which side street the finish was on, but it should be between 1478 and 1484. So my estimate is on the upper end and I will think about removing a few meters.

I watched the video and depending on the exact location of the last right turn, it is either 1484–1485 or 1475–1476. But I’m not sure about the final turn.

 

[Peyresourde]

Today we reach the 2010s, specifically the years from 2011 until 2019 which are now often called the 'Sky Era'. Sky dominated until the Tour de France 2019 with 7 wins in 8 years, before the Vuelta 2019 marked a change of the guard.
The peak level in this decade was more or less consistent, but the densitity of riders 'capable of climbing' did increase in the second half of the decade.

2011| Joaquim Rodriguez | 83 (0): 6.4 W/kg for 32:07 on Collet d'Allevard
2012| Joaquim Rodriguez | 80 (-10): 7.75 W/kg for 6:46 on Mirador de Ezaro
2013| Chris Horner | 81 (-3): 6.23 W/kg for 42:15 on Angliru
2014 | Nairo Quintana | 83 (-7): 6.23 W/kg for 52:39 on Grappa ITT
........... | Fabio Aru | 83 (-7): 6.23 W/kg for 52:40 on Grappa ITT
2015 | Nairo Quintana | 83 (+3): 6.14 W/kg for 41:20 on Terminillo
2016 | Richie Porte | 81 (+3): 6.33 W/kg for 30:20 on Finhaut Emosson
........... | Nairo Qintana | 81 (-2): 6.56 W/kg for 25:43 on Covadonga
2017 | Richie Porte | 88 (-11): 7.84 W/kg for 7:41 on Willunga
2018 | Gonzalo Najar | 87 (+6): 6.25 W/kg for 36:58 on Colorado (very uncertain)
2019 | Miguel Angel Lopez | 85 (+7): 6.53 W/kg for 22:39 on Javalambre

Notes:
1) Rodriguez was in amazing form in the 2011 Dauphine with 2 stage victories, rare for someone coming out of the Giro.
2) Horner makes the list with his legendary performance on the Angliru.
3) 2014 had more good performances then the years prior, perhaps a surprise for Quintana and Aru to top the list.

4) Richie Porte in 2016 and especially in 2017 was in really good overall shape. His performance on Leysin in 2017 Tour of Romandie could potentially be even better than Willunga Hill.
5) Najar in San Juan put on a display of force on Alto de Colorado. This calculation is quite uncertain (tailwind + shallow gradients).
6) Lopez on Javalmbre was a really strong performance, dropping Roglic and young Pogacar. Even in the 2023 Vuelta with the Jumbo sweep they did not even come close to this time.

 

[Red Rick]

How does Javalambre get a +7 adjustment when they pubcrawled to the base and it was basically the only real climb of the day?

Stage designs were fairly similar, but in 2023 the overall stage went 41kph average while they went 34 kph average in 2019.

 

[Netserk]

2008 | Alberto Contador | 86 (+2): 6.22 W/kg for 42:21 on Angliru

2013| Chris Horner | 81 (-3): 6.23 W/kg for 42:15 on Angliru

30 seconds on cordal makes the difference ??

 

[Pozzovivo]

Today we reach the 2010s, specifically the years from 2011 until 2019 which are now often called the 'Sky Era'. Sky dominated until the Tour de France 2019 with 7 wins in 8 years, before the Vuelta 2019 marked a change of the guard.
The peak level in this decade was more or less consistent, but the densitity of riders 'capable of climbing' did increase in the second half of the decade.

2011| Joaquim Rodriguez | 83 (0): 6.4 W/kg for 32:07 on Collet d'Allevard
2012| Joaquim Rodriguez | 80 (-10): 7.75 W/kg for 6:46 on Mirador de Ezaro
2013| Chris Horner | 81 (-3): 6.23 W/kg for 42:15 on Angliru
2014 | Nairo Quintana | 83 (-7): 6.23 W/kg for 52:39 on Grappa ITT
........... | Fabio Aru | 83 (-7): 6.23 W/kg for 52:40 on Grappa ITT
2015 | Nairo Quintana | 83 (+3): 6.14 W/kg for 41:20 on Terminillo
2016 | Richie Porte | 81 (+3): 6.33 W/kg for 30:20 on Finhaut Emosson
........... | Nairo Qintana | 81 (-2): 6.56 W/kg for 25:43 on Covadonga
2017 | Richie Porte | 88 (-11): 7.84 W/kg for 7:41 on Willunga
2018 | Gonzalo Najar | 87 (+6): 6.25 W/kg for 36:58 on Colorado (very uncertain)
2019 | Miguel Angel Lopez | 85 (+7): 6.53 W/kg for 22:39 on Javalambre

Notes:
1) Rodriguez was in amazing form in the 2011 Dauphine with 2 stage victories, rare for someone coming out of the Giro.
2) Horner makes the list with his legendary performance on the Angliru.
3) 2014 had more good performances then the years prior, perhaps a surprise for Quintana and Aru to top the list.

4) Richie Porte in 2016 and especially in 2017 was in really good overall shape. His performance on Leysin in 2017 Tour of Romandie could potentially be even better than Willunga Hill.
5) Najar in San Juan put on a display of force on Alto de Colorado. This calculation is quite uncertain (tailwind + shallow gradients).
6) Lopez on Javalmbre was a really strong performance, dropping Roglic and young Pogacar. Even in the 2023 Vuelta with the Jumbo sweep they did not even come close to this time.

Could you list Chris Froome's greatest performances for these years, @Peyresourde. Just as a point of comparison?

 

[Peyresourde]

How does Javalambre get a +7 adjustment when they pubcrawled to the base and it was basically the only real climb of the day?

Stage designs were fairly similar, but in 2023 the overall stage went 41kph average while they went 34 kph average in 2019.

The adjustment is not for the stage, but the approach (already climbing for several k) and the altidtude. 2023 gets an even higher adjustment. But you are right that they basically crawled to the final climb, so I might have to make a slight correction.
I just generally do not adjust that much for stage hardness unless it was very easy or very hard. Everything else is basically a -2 to +2 range for me. I consider other factors more important for climbs after average stages

30 seconds on cordal makes the difference ??

It is mainly the elevation gain and distance of the stage (210k vs 140k). Even if I do not know exactly how hard a stage was ridden, I also simply value the time in the saddle (6 hours vs. 4 hours) regardless of how easy/hard it was. Maybe that is wrong, but it is just my method.

 

[Red Rick]

30 seconds on cordal makes the difference ??

Gaps behind The Great One do seem to indicate one was considerably more dominant than the other.

 

[Peyresourde]

Could you list Chris Froome's greatest performances for these years, @Peyresourde. Just as a point of comparison?

Here are Froome's Top 5 performances:

Chris Froome | 81 (+7): 6.58 W/kg for 17:58 on Farrapona (Vuelta 2014)
Chris Froome | 81 (+3): 6.31 W/kg for 30:20 on Finhaut Emosson (Tour 2016)
Chris Froome | 80 (+1): 5.88 W/kg for 59:00 on Ventoux (Tour 2013)
Chris Froome | 78 (-3): 6.16 W/kg for 41:44 on Pierre Saint Martin (Tour 2015)
Chris Froome | 78 (+3): 6.05 W/kg for 39:06 on Ancares (Vuelta 2014)