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sniper said:You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.
sniper said:You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.
sniper said:You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.
sniper said:You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.
flicker said:Seriously for Contadors story to fly, he needs the receipt, a piece of tainted meat, the place the meat was bought, the slaughterhouse inspection, and the feedlot or ranch where Jose the tainted steer lived in its last 3 months.
El Pistolero said:Basso did that if I remember correctly.
She died in 2005.
And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.
Oh sorry, blunder me I forgot this is a Spanish matter, green flag Alberto all is well.Oldman said:+1. Forgive me for being slow to bite but isn't it Contador's job to defend? Flicker's correct that a piece from the meat lot is the only legitimate start to a defense. But then there's this gem from Blazin' Saddles:
[COLOR="Red"]"Bueno, I am happy that the case has reached the Federation because that means it is moving forward," said Contador in statement of trademark concision.
"It's good that the matter is now going forward," echoed Bjarne Riis, singing from the same Saxo Sunguard song sheet.
Indeed, it's not too hard to see why Contador is happy. His future is now in the hands of his compatriots, who have by and large come out in support of their man.
The Spanish media are portraying Contador as being on the receiving end of the biggest stitch up since the Bayeux Tapestry; some Spanish sporting officials, including the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee, have publically defended the three-times Tour champion; Carlos Castano, president of the RFEC, has declared his wish that "everything goes well", clearly inferring a total clearance of any wrongdoing.
And Contador's hometown of Pinto have even made their son their first-ever honorary citizen, with the mayor attesting that "the victory of Alberto Contador is the triumph of honesty, sacrifice, effort and hard work every day".[/COLOR]
Notice I highlighted that in blood red?
El Pistolero said:Basso did that if I remember correctly.
She died in 2005.
And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.
Not exactly the best clean comparisons.
flicker said:Your boy is a little to much on the emotional side. Although he is still the best cyclist in the world, saying he would quit if he were convicted, admitting his reputation is now tarnished and fighting with Armstrong show weakness and a lack of maturity. Thus he will not come back like Basso and Vino.(Unless they share of course.)
Oldman said:El Pistolero said:Basso did that if I remember correctly.
She died in 2005.
And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.
Not exactly the best clean comparisons.
Bilirubin said:Sometimes people get carried away using a common figure of speech. He might also know it's not literally true that he took clenbuterol during the tour.
no it is not.Oldman said:+1. Forgive me for being slow to bite but isn't it Contador's job to defend? ...a piece from the meat lot is the only legitimate start to a defense. snip
python said:sniper, your aim targeting gizmo is off by a wide margin.
firstly, if your momma is dead, i hope God let her rest in peace and bless everything she touched.
secondly, it's beyond stupid to assume contador's momma has followed your momma to her grave.
thirdly, swearing on your momma' grave is your right but it may have nothing to do with proving or not proving doping.
sniper said:Yeah, I get your drift, and cannot but agree. Still, one expects more passionate public denials (/statements of innocence) from the truly innocent viz. the falsely accused. Cannot recall any. The only passionate scenes I recall are from those who came out of the closet.
python said:no it is not.
there were numerous threads and dozens of posts on the german ponger, can't recall his name atm, - he got 100% acquitted from clen use claiming exact same story as contador and never produced as much as 1 molecule of the contaminated meat he ate. to complete his story, neither wada not his international fed appealed to cas. means his defence went straight into the sports law textbooks and likely into contador's defence team arsenal.
El Pistolero said:No it doesn't?
Vino said he would quit as well, but he came back. Fighting with Armstrong doesn't show weakness, not fighting him shows you're fighting for second before you start.
Yes, spooky. I'm guessing the lawyers are just after his money and are happy to keep him hoping he'll get off on some last minute technicality, in the meantime they're raking in the cash.flicker said:The Floyd deja vu here is uncanny.
more or less (if you're interested in the details, check some past threads) .L29205 said:Wasn't his story backed up by several team mates that ate the same meal testing positive for Clen as well?
The circumstances of the case were fairly different, though. It happened in China, not in the EU were all meat is traceable and clenbuterol use seems to not be very common, and his teammates provided hair samples which proved they were exposed to clenbuterol too. Speaking of which, could Contador and his teammates have provided hair samples after the positive test popped up? What would they have shown, assuming Contador's story is true?python said:no it is not.
there were numerous threads and dozens of posts on the german ponger, can't recall his name atm, - he got 100% acquitted from clen use claiming exact same story as contador and never produced as much as 1 molecule of the contaminated meat he ate. to complete his story, neither wada not his international fed appealed to cas. means his defence went straight into the sports law textbooks and likely into contador's defence team arsenal.
again, keep in mind i posted what i did in response to a strong and wrong statement by oldman, a respectable and thoughtful user. all to illustrate the limited usefulness of the black and white picture many had crafted and pursue.hrotha said:The circumstances of the case were fairly different, though. It happened in China, not in the EU were all meat is traceable and clenbuterol use seems to not be very common, and his teammates provided hair samples which proved they were exposed to clenbuterol too. Speaking of which, could Contador and his teammates have provided hair samples after the positive test popped up? What would they have shown, assuming Contador's story is true?