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ContadorÂ’s legal team hit back at WADA report

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Contador is never going to win a grand tour again if he doesn't stop smearing EU farming community. It only takes one bankrupt cattle farmer to take his revenge with a little shove.
 
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You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.
 
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You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.

Basso did that if I remember correctly.

She died in 2005.

And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.

Sorry to burst your bubble but even without dope he's the most talented GT contender of his generation with perhaps an exception to Andy Schleck(not a good time trial specialist though.)
 

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sniper said:
You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.

When did he do that?
 
sniper said:
You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.

His mother is alive and well and living in Pinto. Maybe he could swear on Generalisimo Francisco Franco's grave. He is still dead.
 
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You know what strikes me? I never heard an accused doper (e.g. Contador) publicly swearing on his mother's grave that he didn't dope. Now that's what I would do if I really were innocent.

sniper, your aim targeting gizmo is off by a wide margin.

firstly, if your momma is dead, i hope God let her rest in peace and bless everything she touched.

secondly, it's beyond stupid to assume contador's momma has followed your momma to her grave.

thirdly, swearing on your momma' grave is your right but it may have nothing to do with proving or not proving doping.
 
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Seriously for Contadors story to fly, he needs the receipt, a piece of tainted meat, the place the meat was bought, the slaughterhouse inspection, and the feedlot or ranch where Jose the tainted steer lived in its last 3 months.

+1. Forgive me for being slow to bite but isn't it Contador's job to defend? Flicker's correct that a piece from the meat lot is the only legitimate start to a defense. But then there's this gem from Blazin' Saddles:

[COLOR="Red"]"Bueno, I am happy that the case has reached the Federation because that means it is moving forward," said Contador in statement of trademark concision.

"It's good that the matter is now going forward," echoed Bjarne Riis, singing from the same Saxo Sunguard song sheet.

Indeed, it's not too hard to see why Contador is happy. His future is now in the hands of his compatriots, who have by and large come out in support of their man.

The Spanish media are portraying Contador as being on the receiving end of the biggest stitch up since the Bayeux Tapestry; some Spanish sporting officials, including the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee, have publically defended the three-times Tour champion; Carlos Castano, president of the RFEC, has declared his wish that "everything goes well", clearly inferring a total clearance of any wrongdoing.

And Contador's hometown of Pinto have even made their son their first-ever honorary citizen, with the mayor attesting that "the victory of Alberto Contador is the triumph of honesty, sacrifice, effort and hard work every day".[/
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Notice I highlighted that in blood red?
 

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Basso did that if I remember correctly.

She died in 2005.

And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.

Your boy is a little to much on the emotional side. Although he is still the best cyclist in the world, saying he would quit if he were convicted, admitting his reputation is now tarnished and fighting with Armstrong show weakness and a lack of maturity. Thus he will not come back like Basso and Vino.(Unless they share of course.)
 

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Sometimes people get carried away using a common figure of speech. He might also know it's not literally true that he took clenbuterol during the tour.
 

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+1. Forgive me for being slow to bite but isn't it Contador's job to defend? Flicker's correct that a piece from the meat lot is the only legitimate start to a defense. But then there's this gem from Blazin' Saddles:

[COLOR="Red"]"Bueno, I am happy that the case has reached the Federation because that means it is moving forward," said Contador in statement of trademark concision.

"It's good that the matter is now going forward," echoed Bjarne Riis, singing from the same Saxo Sunguard song sheet.

Indeed, it's not too hard to see why Contador is happy. His future is now in the hands of his compatriots, who have by and large come out in support of their man.

The Spanish media are portraying Contador as being on the receiving end of the biggest stitch up since the Bayeux Tapestry; some Spanish sporting officials, including the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee, have publically defended the three-times Tour champion; Carlos Castano, president of the RFEC, has declared his wish that "everything goes well", clearly inferring a total clearance of any wrongdoing.

And Contador's hometown of Pinto have even made their son their first-ever honorary citizen, with the mayor attesting that "the victory of Alberto Contador is the triumph of honesty, sacrifice, effort and hard work every day".[/
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Notice I highlighted that in blood red?
Oh sorry, blunder me I forgot this is a Spanish matter, green flag Alberto all is well.
 
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Basso did that if I remember correctly.

She died in 2005.

And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.


Not exactly the best clean comparisons.
 
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Your boy is a little to much on the emotional side. Although he is still the best cyclist in the world, saying he would quit if he were convicted, admitting his reputation is now tarnished and fighting with Armstrong show weakness and a lack of maturity. Thus he will not come back like Basso and Vino.(Unless they share of course.)

No it doesn't?

Vino said he would quit as well, but he came back. Fighting with Armstrong doesn't show weakness, not fighting him shows you're fighting for second before you start.
 

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Oldman said:
El Pistolero said:
Basso did that if I remember correctly.

She died in 2005.

And lol at people saying Contador won't win anything anymore after he comes back because he needs the dope. Kinda like Vinokourov? Or like Basso? Or Ricardo Ricco? At least try and follow the sport a little bit will ya.


Not exactly the best clean comparisons.

I don't see a lot of people saying that about AC to be honest. But you never know. It depends how clean his opponents were this year.

Without chaingate the tour would have been a draw.
 

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Bilirubin said:
Sometimes people get carried away using a common figure of speech. He might also know it's not literally true that he took clenbuterol during the tour.

The Floyd deja vu here is uncanny.
 
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+1. Forgive me for being slow to bite but isn't it Contador's job to defend? ...a piece from the meat lot is the only legitimate start to a defense. snip
no it is not.

there were numerous threads and dozens of posts on the german ponger, can't recall his name atm, - he got 100% acquitted from clen use claiming exact same story as contador and never produced as much as 1 molecule of the contaminated meat he ate. to complete his story, neither wada not his international fed appealed to cas. means his defence went straight into the sports law textbooks and likely into contador's defence team arsenal.
 
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python said:
sniper, your aim targeting gizmo is off by a wide margin.

firstly, if your momma is dead, i hope God let her rest in peace and bless everything she touched.

secondly, it's beyond stupid to assume contador's momma has followed your momma to her grave.

thirdly, swearing on your momma' grave is your right but it may have nothing to do with proving or not proving doping.

Yeah, I get your drift, and cannot but agree. Still, one expects more passionate public denials (/statements of innocence) from the truly innocent viz. the falsely accused. Cannot recall any. The only passionate scenes I recall are from those who came out of the closet.
 
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Yeah, I get your drift, and cannot but agree. Still, one expects more passionate public denials (/statements of innocence) from the truly innocent viz. the falsely accused. Cannot recall any. The only passionate scenes I recall are from those who came out of the closet.

I think those who are innocent are afraid they'll some day test positive because of a real food contamination.

I know I would be if I was a clean cyclist and wouldn't really make public statements about doping.
 
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no it is not.

there were numerous threads and dozens of posts on the german ponger, can't recall his name atm, - he got 100% acquitted from clen use claiming exact same story as contador and never produced as much as 1 molecule of the contaminated meat he ate. to complete his story, neither wada not his international fed appealed to cas. means his defence went straight into the sports law textbooks and likely into contador's defence team arsenal.

Wasn't his story backed up by several team mates that ate the same meal testing positive for Clen as well?
 
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let the US invade spain, and get rid of them all. they do have drugs of mass destruction after all.
 

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No it doesn't?

Vino said he would quit as well, but he came back. Fighting with Armstrong doesn't show weakness, not fighting him shows you're fighting for second before you start.

Admitting you may quit is weak, fighting with Armstrong shows immaturity.

As much as I admire Albertos skills on a bike (and he could be second only to Cancellera )some of the ways he reacts to situations show a lack of a champions attitude.
That may of been what King Eddy was alluding to when he said "I hope I can trust Contador."

To me Merckx was saying was can I trust Contador to be a true champion?

I wonder that to.
 
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The Floyd deja vu here is uncanny.
Yes, spooky. I'm guessing the lawyers are just after his money and are happy to keep him hoping he'll get off on some last minute technicality, in the meantime they're raking in the cash.

Any decent lawyer would have told him to lie low and hope for the best.
 
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Wasn't his story backed up by several team mates that ate the same meal testing positive for Clen as well?
more or less (if you're interested in the details, check some past threads) .

but my point was to refute some of the most primitive and oft-repeated arguments that haven't been following the latest developments.

that said, my hunch is still the same - blood doping.
 
python said:
no it is not.

there were numerous threads and dozens of posts on the german ponger, can't recall his name atm, - he got 100% acquitted from clen use claiming exact same story as contador and never produced as much as 1 molecule of the contaminated meat he ate. to complete his story, neither wada not his international fed appealed to cas. means his defence went straight into the sports law textbooks and likely into contador's defence team arsenal.
The circumstances of the case were fairly different, though. It happened in China, not in the EU were all meat is traceable and clenbuterol use seems to not be very common, and his teammates provided hair samples which proved they were exposed to clenbuterol too. Speaking of which, could Contador and his teammates have provided hair samples after the positive test popped up? What would they have shown, assuming Contador's story is true?
 
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The circumstances of the case were fairly different, though. It happened in China, not in the EU were all meat is traceable and clenbuterol use seems to not be very common, and his teammates provided hair samples which proved they were exposed to clenbuterol too. Speaking of which, could Contador and his teammates have provided hair samples after the positive test popped up? What would they have shown, assuming Contador's story is true?
again, keep in mind i posted what i did in response to a strong and wrong statement by oldman, a respectable and thoughtful user. all to illustrate the limited usefulness of the black and white picture many had crafted and pursue.

that said, your recollection of the circumstances of his acquittal is largely in line with my understanding. the acquitted ponger had some teammates who tested positive for clenbuterol both in their hair and urine. i said it at least 10 times in multiple posts, imo, contador's only real hope is to test his dinner sharers hair on 20 and 21 july .
 
If I were Contador, I would be trying to get on with things as soon as possible. Admit the substance was there, plead for a lighter sentence & get it overwith.
If he is worried about his legacy, someone needs to set him straight.

a) He is a pro cyclist.
b) He is a Spanish pro cyclist

Legacy?
 

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