Contador apologizes on youtube

[peacefultribe]

Human beings are package deals. None of us are perfect. AC is the kind of guy who tends to get nervous and make mistakes. It's not intentional, and he usually shows remorse after the fact.

On the plus side, he doesn't whine about cobbles, broken wheels, or getting stuck behind a crash while your rival's team is drilling it.

Package deals. I see a lot of good in Contador. More than I see in most riders. Understand the bad, and appreciate the good.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Actions speak louder than words.

but Saxo team & Andy didn't have any problem attacking Chavannel who was wearing the MJ after having crashed, punctured, & bike changed on stage 3...
I think Andy's luck just ran out today-can't stretch it for too long...

That's really not comparable at all. It's cobbles ffs! You cannot race on cobbles if you're gonna wait when someone's affected by a crash or flat, which would make having a pavé stage totally pointless. It's nothing like launching a ferocious attack in the mountains BECAUSE the MJ had a mechanical.

 

[peacefultribe]

AS didn't shift well during an attack. His fault. It wasn't exactly a mechanical, like a broken chain. It also didn't seem to be such a powerful attack if Vino, AC, an a few others were able to bridge so easly.

 

[Publicus]

Actions speak louder than words.



That's really not comparable at all. It's cobbles ffs! You cannot race on cobbles if you're gonna wait when someone's affected by a crash or flat, which would make having a pavé stage totally pointless. It's nothing like launching a ferocious attack in the mountains BECAUSE the MJ had a mechanical.

I agree. It's a good thing that's not what happened here.

 

[The mechanical attack]

Actions speak louder than words.



That's really not comparable at all. It's cobbles ffs! You cannot race on cobbles if you're gonna wait when someone's affected by a crash or flat, which would make having a pavé stage totally pointless. It's nothing like launching a ferocious attack in the mountains BECAUSE the MJ had a mechanical.

I know, it's so disingenious to compare the cobbled stages, where people never wait and punctures and crashes are occurring left, right and centre, to what happened today,. Saxo bank didn't even wait for their own team mate on the cobbles, who they can't have known was so seriously hurt he was out.

The idea that Chavenel, who admits himself he was never in contention for GC in a million years, was the same thing as what happened today - a late and crucial mountain stage between the two clear favourites - is just so dishonest.

But these guys aren't trolling of course.

 

[Big GMaC]

I agree. It's a good thing that's not what happened here.

Hey Pub, you thinking what I'm thinking about Mechanical Attack?

 

[MacRoadie]

Hey Pub, you thinking what I'm thinking about Mechanical Attack?

Sorry, too late!

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=284424&postcount=10

 

[The mechanical attack]

Hey Pub, you thinking what I'm thinking about Mechanical Attack?

Yeah, he might be making a point that we disagree with and can't actually answer with reasoned points.

I was thinking that too.

 

[Big GMaC]

Sorry, too late!

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=284424&postcount=10

Sorry Mac I was just over looking at this photo.

There are so many thread today I have no chance keeping up

 

[MacRoadie]

Sorry Mac I was just over looking at this photo.

There are so many thread today I have no chance keeping up

No worries, I just happened to catch a whiff of him earlier in the other thread...

 

[sunnyIce]

so with all this information streaming in, whats the verdict? did andy make a mistake and the guys made him pay for it? was berto pressured into feeling guilty about attacking on a mechanical fail, or thought to be mechanical fail? was his apology unnecessary? will this guilt affect him tomorrow and in the days to come.

 

[Big GMaC]

No worries, I just happened to catch a whiff of him earlier in the other thread...

Ha,

now I see you commented on the other thread about the shifting...

See...

Yes, I thnik that really he should go back to choosing a simple 3 letter pattern and stick the it

The Mech Attack

Ban The Mech Attack

The Menchov Attack

The Malodorous Aubisque

The Malnourished Andy....

 

[hfer07]

Actions speak louder than words.



That's really not comparable at all. It's cobbles ffs! You cannot race on cobbles if you're gonna wait when someone's affected by a crash or flat, which would make having a pavé stage totally pointless. It's nothing like launching a ferocious attack in the mountains BECAUSE the MJ had a mechanical.

so according to you- Cobbles is the only terrain that is acceptable to have a crash or a flat...
what about the stage prior to the cobbles then?
What about stage 7 of this year's giro to Montalcino where Nibali crashed hard while in Rosa & everybody was fvcKed by the horrendous conditions & the course- but no one from Liquigas b!tched about it?
As I wrote before: The Giro is ridden by real men, The Tour is ridden by the Snob

And BTW you need to bear in mind that Andy Attacked first & inflicted the "mechanical Incident" while AC was trying to catch him being boxed-in when Andy took off....

 

[bonafido]

At least he apologised. If on the other hand, while attacking, if contador suffered a mechanical fault,would you think Schleck will stop and wait for him?

 

[The mechanical attack]

so according to you- Cobbles is the only terrain that is acceptable to have a crash or a flat...
what about the stage prior to the cobbles then?
What about stage 7 of this year's giro to Montalcino where Nibali crashed hard while in Rosa & everybody was fvcKed by the horrendous conditions & the course- but no one from Liquigas b!tched about it?
As I wrote before: The Giro is ridden by real men, The Tour is ridden by the Snob

And BTW you need to bear in mind that Andy Attacked first & inflicted the "mechanical Incident" while AC was trying to catch him being boxed-in when Andy took off....

On stage 2 Contador actually gained as well when the authority of the yellow jersy in the form of Canchellara neutralised the stage. It was obviously a completely different situation. On the cobbles itself people were crashing repeatedly and there is a convention not to wait, which is why no one *****ed when AC sailed past Armstrong at the side of the road.

But here we have a mountain stage in the last week of the tour, between the two established favourites. The convention is clear in that instance.

But say you think it was all very tricky and AC didn't know what was going on etc. Aren't you just peed off that the tour is over a week early? Where are all the cycling fans that like to see a close battle to the end? Don't AC fans want to see him win in a clear and undisputed manner? It's very strange.

I can only guess that they realised that AC was in trouble this tour - something they never expected - so are just glad to see AC win it anyway he can. Fcuk waiting until he last TT, huh?

 

[Publicus]

Hey Pub, you thinking what I'm thinking about Mechanical Attack?

I didn't catch on fast enough. Just replied to him on another thread. I'm getting rusty.

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

I think racing etiquette was put on hold for stage 3 and rightly so. This was a stage, that everybody knew coming in, that mechanicals and crashes would decide the outcome. BTW, I don't remember Alberto crashing in stage 3. All I remember was he had to bunny hop over a curb.

 

[Cal_Joe]

(pretty hilarious acoustic guitar intro)

Hello everyone. Today I managed to get on the podium, that makes me happy. The problem with that was the circumstances. Right when I attacked Andy had a mechanical in the last climb. The race was in full gear and, well, maybe I made a mistake, I'm sorry. At a time like that all you think about is riding as fast as you can. I'm not happy, in the sense that, to me, fair play is very important. Just like I did in the Spa stage, when both Andy and Fränk were behind the pack, I didn't hesitate to stop the bunch so that they could catch up. Many people criticized me for doing that, especially after the stage on the cobbles, when the crash happened and the whole bunch split as a result, and it allowed Andy to take time on me, but I always settle it by saying I'd do it again. The kind of thing that happened today is not something I like, it's not my style and I hope my relationship with Andy will remain as good as before.

(outro)

I hate it when the full translation is not posted - especially the last part of the video, which translates as -

"I have also heard from the Vatican through their Twitter account. In the eyes of the church, I am forgiven, but based on a direct request from the Pope, I will immediately stop that Pistolero sh*te."

I say good on you Bertie.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Actions speak louder than words.



That's really not comparable at all. It's cobbles ffs! You cannot race on cobbles if you're gonna wait when someone's affected by a crash or flat, which would make having a pavé stage totally pointless. It's nothing like launching a ferocious attack in the mountains BECAUSE the MJ had a mechanical.

OK let's try this: The "MJ" did not have a mechanical. The "MJ" effed up in the heat of battle and temporarily put himself on the sidelines. Sh** happens, same as taking a bad line through the last corner, no do overs.

 

[santacruz]

Do you guys look at this as a nice guy apologizing, OR PR control because he knows the public views him in a negative light after what he did?? I won't be duped into forgiving AC, he is just using youtube to take away some of the damage he did to his own image. This video isn't private, and he could have easily apologized to AS in private, but he wanted the world to see it... eff that self serving snake.

 

[Cal_Joe]

Do you guys look at this as a nice guy apologizing, OR PR control because he knows the public views him in a negative light after what he did?? I won't be duped into forgiving AC, he is just using youtube to take away some of the damage he did to his own image. This video isn't private, and he could have easily apologized to AS in private, but he wanted the world to see it... eff that self serving snake.

He learns quickly from the master.

 

[Publicus]

I think racing etiquette was put on hold for stage 3 and rightly so. This was a stage, that everybody knew coming in, that mechanicals and crashes would decide the outcome. BTW, I don't remember Alberto crashing in stage 3. All I remember was he had to bunny hop over a curb.

He didn't crash, Frank did. He was held up in the crash and his rear wheel was damaged in the process. He rode the final 25km with a broken spoke/rubbing rear wheel. The point was that a lot of GC riders were held up by that crash and Andy rode HARD to get as much time as he could on those caught up in that crash. He went from 85th at the start of stage 3 and finished 6th. No one complained, not even AC.

And one final point, riders know that shifting under full power can cause one to throw a chain, and yet Andy tried to pull that stunt while attacking. Andy made a mistake that caused him to throw a chain. No one crashed into him. He didn't get a flat. His own actions caused him to throw a chain. It also happened that he threw that chain while AC was trying to close the gap to him after he attack while AC was at the back of the group (not complaining, just saying what happened). So AC wasn't attacking BECAUSE of the mechanical. These two events, while linked, were not interdependent (i.e., one was not caused by the other).

 

[teamcresthuffy]

Where did someone like Cancellara get so much influence on the peloton anyway? Are they that impressed by his palmares? I doubt that to be honest. I can think of a few guys in the current peloton with a better palmares then Cancellara and they would never be able to pull something like that off.

Spartacus did rule that day, ...

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

Kudos to him.

Still, the damage is done, i don't really see the way for him to redeem himself.

Even if he will stop completely somewhere to give Andy some of the time back he will still look a ******bag giving gifts.

If he will attack -- he will look a ****** squared.

But that's a start, definitely.
________
Body Science

 

[Hugh Januss]

Do you guys look at this as a nice guy apologizing, OR PR control because he knows the public views him in a negative light after what he did?? I won't be duped into forgiving AC, he is just using youtube to take away some of the damage he did to his own image. This video isn't private, and he could have easily apologized to AS in private, but he wanted the world to see it... eff that self serving snake.

In my opinion he has nothing to apologize for, and he is only caving in to pressure from the "unwritten rule" police.