Contador blasts LA

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Kinda like how everybody knows what LA "actually said" with his no comment and Ill bite my tongue comments?

These guys believe they know what color Lance's duke is everyday.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Wow, Armstrong is NOT handling 3rd place very well at all. A loser will always act like what he is.

Troll alert.

 

[LaBici]

This is all very childish and silly.


Will someone please shut the two of them up?

AGREED! Mr Armstrong is not furthering his case one iota. And Mr Contador should be magnanimous and keep quite as well.

 

[frizzlefry]

These guys believe they know what color Lance's duke is everyday.

I'm amazed at how much they knew about what JB and LA does, did, and is going to do. Especially during the tour stages. You would think they had a spy on the Astana bus. Or one of those hidden cameras.

 

[Publicus]

Expect Contador to experience this exact same situation (blunder), from Wiggins point of view, several times during next year's tour. No slipstream for Contaking and no clear view of accelerations for him.

What are you talking about? Contador will be up the road (See e.g., Arcalis, Verbier). Not twaddling around with the wannabes.

 

[iceaxe]

The overall dislike for Lance is comical on this forum. I mean seriously you are discussing a 7 time TDF champion. A man that with the help of his teams brought cycling to the forefront of "International" media. Without Lance all these new cyclists (ie. Evans, Schleck's, Contador, etc.) Would not have the overall media attention. The advertising dollars, endorsements potential and salaries. You all live in a small fish bowl if you truely hold Lance as low as your posts display.

I like both Contador and Armstrong. They are both Great champions who have truely changed the sport with the abilities on the bike. If you don't see it for what it is then you live blindly in a box.

Neither handled a lot of things that well in the TDF!! Neither and honestly that is what is to be expected in a team that has two leaders. That is what all the fuss was about before the tour and to this point. It's called cause and effect. And, btw one thing I will let you know not once have I seen Alberto recognize that the TDF is won with a team. One man stands on the podium, but 9 riders comprised that jersey and place. It is his one weakness and if he doesn't have as strong a team next year then I guarantee you he will recognize it real dang quick. Alberto was and has been the benefactor to the Lance/Johan model in all of his Grand Tour wins. Period. As Lance was the benefactor for his 7 TDF wins in a row.

Now give it a rest. They are both pampered champions!!!!!!!!!!

Contador would have done better on his own without Lance and other trying to sabotage him. that's a fact. and contador did say at least twice that it was a team effort.

 

[pmcg76]

Clever last question. Read this from Axel Merckyx's Twitter;

A champion is also measured on how much he respect his teammates and opponents. You can win a race on your own not a grand tour.

A rider better respect his team and his DS. Period.

JB may not want to deal with a loose cannon prima-donna. Ever thought of that?

And a 38 year old guy coming back from almost 4 years of retirememt expecting equal leadership with this generations top rider, holy crap, if that is not a prima-donna, I dont know what is. During the Tour, only certain peolpe were dissing their team-mates and it werent AC. I bet most team-mates were just worrying about getting the win bonus, not who actually won.

Even now, Contador has not slated Astana or anybody other than Lance. Just ask, who won the 2009 Tour, all other rubbish is irrelevant. The Merckxs have always been friends with Lance, what do you expect them to be neutral.

 

[frizzlefry]

These guys believe they know what color Lance's duke is everyday.

I didnt realize there were that many clairvoyants on this forum.

 

[md2020]

pistolero, there is no "i" in "team". what did i say in March? Lots to learn. Restated.

With team mates like LA, who needs enemies?

 

[Cobber]

Kinda like how everybody knows what LA "actually said" with his no comment and Ill bite my tongue comments?

Not even close, sorry.... The English translation of AC's comment was terrible. We all saw Lance on numerous occasions saying "no comment" and then commenting afterwards. Some people observed those comments through rose coloured glasses and made up their own minds, while other people saw the same comments and reached a different conclusion. The difference with AC's comment is that English-speaking readers were all forced to read them through one persons perspective, a reporter who was obviously trying to stir up something that wasn't there!

 

[jamfra67]

Or could it be that Contador alienated himself from the team by his riding? You think Bruyneel was upset with Contador on stage 17 for what reason?

His actions and the words from his mouth led me to beleive that his preference for winning the tour was Lance. Why declare Contador as earning the right to lead the team this july and then the race begins. and his right to leadership is in question. Presentation of the team on video carries his quotation stating Contador as leader. Bruyneel and Lance are the ones who alienated AC with their everchanging positions on the leadership question. He had so many cards to play it look like he got confused. I am so happy that AC remained focussed on his task and that is to win the tour. Who vex lose. We seem to want to conveniently forget the facts as it stood before the tour began. What we dont want to accept is that Alberto was betrayed by Bruyneel in favour of his long time alli. Are we too timid to call a spade a spade. Bruyneel is a smart man, a diplomat who is good with words

 

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@johanbruyneel This ones for Alberto, it is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt!

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[LaBici]

Not even close, sorry.... The English translation of AC's comment was terrible. We all saw Lance on numerous occasions saying "no comment" and then commenting afterwards. Some people observed those comments through rose coloured glasses and made up their own minds, while other people saw the same comments and reached a different conclusion. The difference with AC's comment is that English-speaking readers were all forced to read them through one persons perspective, a reporter who was obviously trying to stir up something that wasn't there!

can you please point us to the Spanish texts? I'll manage to read it just fine...

 

[Anonymous]

pistolero, there is no "i" in "team". what did i say in March? Lots to learn. Restated.

But there is an "m" and an "e."

 

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With team mates like LA, who needs enemies?

We shall find out next year! If he thought the hotel was hostel compared to the road this year........

 

[frizzlefry]

The difference with AC's comment is that English-speaking readers were all forced to read them through one persons perspective, a reporter who was obviously trying to stir up something that wasn't there!

LOL, Imagine that. Really?

 

[LaBici]

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cuts both ways mate!
(AC has made _one_ damn comment vs a dozen by LA, and it was in Spanish and may have been translated wrong..)

 

[lagartija]

You're right. What LA should have said is "Contador is impatient and doesn't follow team orders. Everyone on the team wants to cut his throat, especially Kloeden, but JB won't let us".

That would have been alot less dis-respectful than "no comment".

your funny.........but i would have prefered he just supported contador from the minute the prologue was over........that would have been class, not the base behavior he demonstrated

 

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LOL, Imagine that. Really?

In other words, it is OK for Contador to question a teammate's character after he wins the race......because it's all just Spanish.

 

[powerste]

JB may not want to deal with a loose cannon prima-donna. Ever thought of that?

A "loose cannon prima-donna" is exactly what a certain future 7-time TdF champ was back when he was AC's age. JB did just fine with him.

 

[usedtobefast]

man, i just waded through every post in this thread. i feel like i am in the middle of a junior highschool food fight. i read all la's tweets. he was pretty fair in his comments all along. ac proved he is a very strong guy. not much of a team guy, though. conjecture about things we do not know is fun, but not the "truth" who is the bigger douchebag? i say ac, stronger than la this year, but
he may have hell to pay for his "i did not need the team" attitude.
lance is no angel. i can speak as someone with personal experience. but he knows his stuff and what it takes to win 7 tdf. ok, i have now thrown my pie
in this food fight.

 

[LaBici]

We shall find out next year! If he thought the hotel was hostel compared to the road this year........

Contador won't be on the RadioShat team. He'll have his own team i would think that will treat him as a TdF winner..

 

[frizzlefry]

In other words, it is OK for Contador to question a teammate's character after he wins the race......because it's all just Spanish.

Yea like the French, Spaniards, Germans, etc... have never translated anything LA said wrong since 1999.

 

[Publicus]

I Disagree;

1. Power to weight works on the steep, not in a full headwind. The smart riders waited.

2. When Lance attacked he put minutes in his rivals NOT 21 seconds.

3. On Ventoux, Lance was marking Wiggins an FRANK Schleck, not Andy. Did Lance ever attack on Ventoux? No. He followed wheels because that's all he needed/could do.

1. So please tell me how he was able to accelerate away so fast? Did he get a sudden tailwind? Or was it those pesky moto bikes that Andy and Spartacus were conveniently seeing? The smart rider crossed the line 21 seconds ahead of the other riders because you always put time into your rivals when you can. He could. He did and as evidence by his performance over the remainder of the two weeks, it didn't hurt his performance one bit.

2. Please tell me when he put minutes into anyone during the 2009 Tour outside of the TTT? Or are you inviting us to a trip down memory lane? And if I recall correctly, Contador hung a minute plus on Armstrong and others on Verbier (save Andy Schleck). And took another minute plus out of his closest rivals in the ITT at Annecy. That's how you win a race by more than a minute.

3. Then why was he bridging to Contador when Contador was on Andy Schleck's wheel? There was no need to expend the energy. And I know Lance didn't attack. He couldn't drop anyone even if he had.

 

[Cobber]

can you please point us to the Spanish texts? I'll manage to read it just fine...

Here is a link to the original and an English translation (from another thread)

the original source is from Radio Television Espanola RTVE on his press conference in Spain after his arrival.
Proper translation:
My relationship with Armstrong is none-but independent from his personality, he's a great champion, has won 7 tours and done a great job in this one, but on a personal level(referring to his personality) I haven't had a great admiration towards his, and never will, but again-as a rider-he's a great champion.
for Spanish speakers
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/20090727/contador-relacion-con-armstrong-nula/286686.shtml


but then again- what more can everybody expects from "LA's worshiping VELONEWS?