Contador blasts LA

[fulcrum]

1) Lance agreed publicly with Levi (via ****ter)

2) What, specifically, are you referring to as "mean-spirited pure nastiness"?
That he said he didn't admire Lance (the person)? Oh, my, yes, that is simply brutal.

Anything below 5 daily prayers in Lance's general direction is unacceptable and a character assassination. Everybody should follow dickianism.

 

[TrudyTas]

I've been trying to read his journal on his official site for weeks. It's in german, but for some reason it isn't loading. Can anyone else get there?

www.andreas-kloeden.com

Can get the front page, but that's all, everything else is offline.

 

[Publicus]

And it's stupid - it's needlessly burning bridges.

Totally! He is so not getting invited to Team Radio Shack. See if he wins another stage, let alone another Tour, without Lance Armstrong sacrificing for him.


Let's all say it together, Alberto Contador Velasco LEAVE LANCE ARMSTRONG ALONE!!!!!!!

 

[jamfra67]

For Johan to post that comment is a pretty strong statement. Like I said. The silence from the rest of the Astana team might be deafening - and quite defining as well. AC might me just turn out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing and it appears that LA and JB don't suffer fools lightly. Levi already called him out earlier in the tour. We already know what he did to Kloden. What the heck you think guys like Popo think of the guy. This is gonna hurt him more than you think.

Who is gonna hurt him the radio shack guys? They tried and they failed. Move on to 2010 the New World Order has arrived. Contador is the Champ and Armstrong was the champ.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

1) Lance agreed publicly with Levi (via ****ter)

2) What, specifically, are you referring to as "mean-spirited pure nastiness"?
That he said he didn't admire Lance (the person)? Oh, my, yes, that is simply brutal.

What's so bad about, "that wasn't a good move". It was Levi's honest reaction (commentators too), and in retrospect Lance agreed. So what?

But yes, don't you think saying publicly "I have never had great admiration for him and I never will" is a mean-spirited nasty thing to say about someone? He also said, "my relationship with Lance Armstrong is zero". That too is quite nasty. Sounds like something someone would say about an ex-spouse after a divorce.

Maybe Lance hides it better, but I honestly don't see anything mean spirited or nasty in anything Lance has said about Contador. Agreeing with LL about the Klodi drop not being a good move is certainly not that.

Any examples? Anyone?

 

[balkou]

There is no LA in "team" neither Lance...
He shows he's a poor loser. He should have been proud about his 3rd position, after 3,5 years of absence, after the broken collarbone last March. It seems after all, that he came back for more than only about promoting his Livestrong organization.

 

[rhubroma]

Turns out Lance isn't / and wasn't the only one that had a problem with AC.
But hey, what do axel and eddy Merckx know how the TDF and teamwork anyway? Doesn't sound like AC was too gracious with his other teammates either. Let's see if anyone from Astana comes in to throw him a life ring. Otherwise, their silence will tell us all we need to know about who the real problem was within Astana.

You are right, the problem on Astana was AC.....but it just so happens that the best cyclist in the world would only be a problem on a team managed by JB and LA, the latter a dethroned Napoleon.

Conversely Astana was a problem for a guy who should have been the uncontested leader at the Tour from the giddy-up. So all in all, AC handled the situation rather graciously. What if it had been a young LA in his position? Somebody would have gotten knocked-off, I'd say. Though this would never have happened, given that only an SOB with an ego problem such as Lance, could have created the rather disagreeable mess in the first place.

I seriouly hope AC finds himself in a more just situation next year, as no rider with his pedigree should have had to be put through what he did on Astana this year. Preferably on a Spanish team, so that at next year's Tour he can whip LA's a$$, give him a real trouncing, even more than he did this year!

 

[Bagster]

Arthur John Wilcockson from Boulder, CO/

Bio Sportswriter and author of LANCE: The Making of the World's Greatest Champion.

Think his loyalties are well established. His twithead ramblings.

"Without the respect & sympathy of the peloton, not even a brilliant climber like Contador will be able to continue winning grand tours."

"Maybe Contador, the winner of 4 grand tours, thinks he has the right to make rash comments about LA. But he'll lose the peloton's sympathy."

Wow, full on media spin goes to work making AC look like he was in the wrong by winning the TdF 2009.

Asshats.

No he was just in the wrong by being a tosser and launching a personal attack once he was back in Spain hiding behind his momma's apron. I think LA has been unusually restrained in his return comments. Fact is LA has never made a personal attack on AC, he has made smarts about his riding but has never stooped to denigrating him personally as AC has just done.

 

[Bagster]

Who is gonna hurt him the radio shack guys? They tried and they failed. Move on to 2010 the New World Order has arrived. Contador is the Champ and Armstrong was the champ.

Contador is acting more like a Chump than a Champ

 

[ThisFrenchGuy]

Exercice:
If Contador has a lot to learn, how many more GT will he have under his belt once he matures, and what is the age of the captain?
You've got two hours.

All this is so very Oedipian: Contador said Armstrong was an inspiration. Lance said Alberto reminded him of himself. Kill the father and all.

Twitter and press conference about "that guy is mean " is kinda weak as far as clashes go though.

 

[rhubroma]

Maybe Lance hides it better, but I honestly don't see anything mean spirited or nasty in anything Lance has said about Contador. Agreeing with LL about the Klodi drop not being a good move is certainly not that.

Any examples? Anyone?

Confronting AC face to face in the hotel with B and saying: "Hey, my name is LA and you will do what the hell I tell you to do!"

Or making sure AC doesn't have a team escort to the ITT.

No, nothing mean spirited about Lance....

Neither was he being mean when he dumped Landis' blood sack refill down the toilette at the 2004 Tour, or chased Simeoni down, or insulted Sastre by calling the Tour last year a joke.

Dude you have the most serious character judgment problems. For Lance has to be one of the meanest SOB's currently in circulation.

 

[jamfra67]

Most respondents are underestimating the seriousness of the protocol violation of Contador's attacking move on Wednesday. Things were getting better until then, and that changed a lot. And now he has gone off verbally and contradicted himself - he has earlier said many times that he looked up to and respected Lance. No one is denying Contador has been in a tough spot all along, but he's the one who has escalated the situation, not Lance. And I agree, Lance has a lot more friends in the peloton than Contador. 26-year-old prima donnas don't cut it - AC has made a big mistake.

Friends in the peleton my ***. This is the future. Who has AC violated but the hypocrites who betrayed him? Who in the peleton do you think will support Lance with BS? Get real man Prima donna who has better record than when lance was his age. The record speaks for itself. He had a lot of friends. The NewWorld Order is upon us so get with the program. Hinault had his Indurain had his, Lance had his and now its Contadors turn. He is not worried about Lance. Andy schleck is a bigger threat to him. The fear of lance in the peleton has vanished. Pedro delgado "the little dwarf's started to beleive in themselves and realised that armstrong is beatable. We are moving farward we are not going back

 

[Bagster]

You are right, the problem on Astana was AC.....but it just so happens that the best cyclist in the world would only be a problem on a team managed by JB and LA, the latter a dethroned Napoleon.

Conversely Astana was a problem for a guy who should have been the uncontested leader at the Tour from the giddy-up. So all in all, AC handled the situation rather graciously. What if it had been a young LA in his position? Somebody would have gotten knocked-off, I'd say. Though this would never have happened, given that only an SOB with an ego problem such as Lance, could have created the rather disagreeable mess in the first place.

I seriouly hope AC finds himself in a more just situation next year, as no rider with his pedigree should have had to be put through what he did on Astana this year. Preferably on a Spanish team, so that at next year's Tour he can whip LA's a$$, give him a real trouncing, even more than he did this year!

Do you want a handkerchief?

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Totally! He is so not getting invited to Team Radio Shack. See if he wins another stage, let alone another Tour, without Lance Armstrong sacrificing for him.


Let's all say it together, Alberto Contador Velasco LEAVE LANCE ARMSTRONG ALONE!!!!!!!

The bridge to Lance is not the only one he is burning. When you win the Tour and don't thank and show your appreciation for the team, that's just stupid.

 

[rhubroma]

Do you want a handkerchief?

Why? When your the one who's crying.

 

[RhodriM]

Is LA's definition of team 'everyone does what I tell them'?

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Confronting AC face to face in the hotel with B and saying: "Hey, my name is LA and you will do what the hell I tell you to do!"

Or making sure AC doesn't have a team escort to the ITT.

No, nothing mean spirited about Lance....

Neither was he being mean when he dumped Landis' blood sack refill down the toilette at the 2004 Tour, or chased Simeoni down, or insulted Sastre by calling the Tour last year a joke.

Dude you have the most serious character judgment problems. For Lance has to be one of the meanest SOB's currently in circulation.

Citations, please.

 

[palmerq]

Seems like armstrong was trying to play some mindgames with alberto and it´s backfired on him a bit, Lance is taking it a bit too personal now, but if you play these games it can happen. Well done to alberto he is stronger in the mind than people give him credit for.

 

[fulcrum]

The bridge to Lance is not the only one he is burning. When you win the Tour and don't thank and show your appreciation for the team, that's just stupid.

There is no "bridge" in "Radio Shack"

 

[jamfra67]

Keep in mind Hinault is just to the left of Armstrong's gaze. hahaha

Your Point?

 

[rhubroma]

Citations, please.

1. la RAI
2. Spanish article
3. Vaugter's-Andreu e-mail
4. International TV and newspaper media

 

[balkou]

Maybe Lance hides it better, but I honestly don't see anything mean spirited or nasty in anything Lance has said about Contador. Agreeing with LL about the Klodi drop not being a good move is certainly not that.

Any examples? Anyone?

It's not only words, it's actions too that matter.
He downplayed Contador's performance in Paris-Nice because of his bad day that cost him the race. The whole discussion about who's going to help who, was blown out of proportion, with Lance repeatedly saying that if he's in front I'll help, if I'm in front he should help. And when in stage 3 Popovych and Zubeldia went in front to aid the split it all downed very clearly to the Spaniard. No, that he hadn't any clues, with Noval being left out of the team.
The Spaniard's attack in Arcalis was a natural reaction to "remind" who's the strongest and to "re-establish" his lead. And anyway, the Verbier, the Grand-Bornand and the ITT of Annecy showed that all the fuss in the first place was nonsense.
Are we saying that after all that behaviour Alberto should have been a friend with Lance? Or with Johan still?
ps. Anyway Lance should have been thankful with Kloeden been dropped in the Grand-Bornand stage. That's how he got 3rd place, isn't it?

 

[lanceismyhero]

What's so bad about, "that wasn't a good move". It was Levi's honest reaction (commentators too), and in retrospect Lance agreed. So what?

But yes, don't you think saying publicly "I have never had great admiration for him and I never will" is a mean-spirited nasty thing to say about someone? He also said, "my relationship with Lance Armstrong is zero". That too is quite nasty. Sounds like something someone would say about an ex-spouse after a divorce.

Maybe Lance hides it better, but I honestly don't see anything mean spirited or nasty in anything Lance has said about Contador. Agreeing with LL about the Klodi drop not being a good move is certainly not that.

Any examples? Anyone?

Lance made several extremely disrepectful comments about Contador. Lance was not considering Contador's feelings for one second. Contador was a former tour winner and one several other major races. Lances comments were bizarrely disrespectful. Rebuking contador publicly for stuff that was a matter of interpretation was inflammatory. I started off being a LA fan boy but I am now pretty disillusioned. usurping contadors transportation to the itt was right in line with the humiliating comments LA made about AC in public.
Contador is obviously a self motivated type and isnt going to respond favourably to bullying. My conclusion is that Lance has zero social skills or is creating drama like they do in pro wrestling.

 

[jamfra67]

Don't forget, Hinault, standing just to Armstrong's left, averted his eyes at that moment and looked toward the ground. That's what people do in the presence of someone they say should get their asses kicked.

Where are you going with this? You seem to be grabbing at straws. Hinault said Contador would kick lance **** in the tour and he did. Stop grabbing at straws man. You really dont know the Badger. Did you check his interview what he had to say about lance in velonews?

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Friends in the peleton my ***. This is the future. Who has AC violated but the hypocrites who betrayed him? Who in the peleton do you think will support Lance with BS? Get real man Prima donna who has better record than when lance was his age. The record speaks for itself. He had a lot of friends. The NewWorld Order is upon us so get with the program. Hinault had his Indurain had his, Lance had his and now its Contadors turn. He is not worried about Lance. Andy schleck is a bigger threat to him. The fear of lance in the peleton has vanished. Pedro delgado "the little dwarf's started to beleive in themselves and realised that armstrong is beatable. We are moving farward we are not going back

I think you reflect AC's perspective rather well, and also the problem, which Axel Merckx addressed today.