you trolls stop this hysteria about vino being a traitor. would you care to read what all the parties say? http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...tent-after-tour-de-france-cobblestones_126504 this should end all your conspiracy propaganda
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spanky wanderlust said:of course, basso is still a major threat.
Climbing said:I always though so, but he lost a lot of time.
I see him staying with Contador and Andy, but where could he regain time? Can Liquigas support him strongly enough on mountains?
Climbing said:I always though so, but he lost a lot of time.
I see him staying with Contador and Andy, but where could he regain time? Can Liquigas support him strongly enough on mountains?
lancewillwin8 said:Well Armstrong has had all of his bad luck for the tour and is still only a couple of minutes down. I cant wait to see what bad luck contador will have in the weeks to come.
Angliru said:It appears your lord and master's string of good luck ended at his 2nd retirement. Since his return he's crashed multiple times, unsuccessfully attempted to snatch a tour win from a teammate who was obviously stronger,
NOT WON ANY RACE OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE, and is now, according to today's USATODAY, passing on responsibility for his losing time on stage 3 to his team's failed strategy. As was stated earlier, karma is a beeeyotch!
Angliru said:is now, according to today's USATODAY, passing on responsibility for his losing time on stage 3 to his team's failed strategy. As was stated earlier, karma is a beeeyotch!
To paraphrase: "It isn't my own fault that I rode there, no it is the team tactics its fault""In hindsight, as a team, I think we all agree we could have ridden differently yesterday," Armstrong said. "You can look at the position we went into the cobbles (in), you can look at perhaps the amount of the time we spent on the sides, which I think has an effect."
Climbing said:I know i risk being flayed alive, but I never considered LA a true candidate for winning TdF, not staying with Contador, Andy and (imho) Basso in top climbings.
Barrus said:In this article some interesting things are said by Armstrong:
To paraphrase: "It isn't my own fault that I rode there, no it is the team tactics its fault"
This has nothing to do with team tactics, or riding as a team, it has more to do with your own inexperience in riding on the pavé and your own choice of riding in the gutter, where it is perhaps easier to ride than on top of the crown, but you get more chance of flats.
Link:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/tourdefrance/2010-07-07-fourth-stage-petacchi_N.htm
Angliru said:It appears your lord and master's string of good luck ended at his 2nd retirement. Since his return he's crashed multiple times, unsuccessfully attempted to snatch a tour win from a teammate who was obviously stronger,
NOT WON ANY RACE OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE, and is now, according to today's USATODAY, passing on responsibility for his losing time on stage 3 to his team's failed strategy. As was stated earlier, karma is a beeeyotch!
SoCalCyclingfan said:Did ANYONE besides Contador believe that Vino would truly ride as a superdomestique? He does the same thing every year. Says he'll ride for the team leader, then attacks at will. Personally, I find it totally entertaining, but I think that was a rude awakening for Contador at the end of Stage 3. Funny that his own words ("my radio didn't work, that's why I didn't follow team orders") came back to bite him in the chamois.
Black-Balled said:I am inclined to agree: Vino isn't going to help anyone but Vino, on Vino's Team. Trust me, he says those words hourly!
IMO, Contador's 2010 and 2009 TOurs are gonna real similar...el Pistolero is gonna be el Lone Rangero.
brianf7 said:Maybe Vinos radio was switched off he wanted the minor placing.
Stuff Alberto he's just a passinger. there will be more friction before the tour is over.
lagartija said:one for , frizzle,chisa and socal...............uh wrong, Vino will and has been a good teamate for Berto, he has allready proved it earlier in the year, but whatever you can read whatever you want in the last 300 meters of stage 3, its got to be a lance thing, he loses time and you have to find another avenue to vent your frustration......
by the way ill hit you guys back after the wkend and see how you feel about Vino then , cant wait to hear the spin when Vino sits on armstrong and berto is up the road.............![]()
spanky wanderlust said:how is it that so many folks see vino as having anywhere near the kind of form necessary to win this tour? where do you come up with this stuff?![]()
riobonito92 said:Accepting as the truth that Contador broke a spoke with 30 km to go, did he make the correct decision not to change bikes? - Surely they could have chosen a good non-pave spot to do a quick bike change and AC would have rejoined the same group.
Presumably the wheel became progressively less true the further he continued - so there may not have been an initial problem - but as soon as the tyre began to rub against the frame (if it did) it would have to explode sooner or later.
I been thinking about this and just cannot see that AC did not take a hige risk by not making a change.
spanky wanderlust said:how is it that so many folks see vino as having anywhere near the kind of form necessary to win this tour? where do you come up with this stuff?:confused:
vino has imo slightly less chance of a podium finish than lanceypants. if he makes the top 10 as a super domestique, that would be considered an epic performance.
he will play teammate until the end. i hope he gets a chance to attack for a stage victory, that would be awesome!.
lancewillwin8 said:um.. this is vino he probably has 4 litres of blood ready for the alps.
lancewillwin8 said:um.. this is vino he probably has 4 litres of blood ready for the alps.