Contador positive!!!!!

[zastomito]

Was it this piece of meat?

Belgian blue. It has some sort of genetic mutation, myostatin or something like that. Very rare in humans but it happens.

 

[sometriguy]

Was it this piece of meat?

Awesome, case closed!!!

 

[Joe in LA]

I'm smelling a rotten LA move here, there is no way the UCI or ASO would publish quasi-positive results without some sort of motivation. As I read it, he was UNDER the min.

Who did he **** off?

There is no minimum. The UCI said that the lab, to be certified, need only detect clen at a higher concentration than the concentration detected. That does not mean it is okay to have less in your body. What it means is "oops, Cologne's testing is too sensitive" and detected clen at a level that no one thought could be caught.

The irony here is that if AFLD and UCI hadn't been at each other's throats, the test would have been done in France and it would not have been detected. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-food-contamination-or-political-victim

 

[hektoren]

The DEHP plasticizer (as mentioned by the German ARD-journo) possibly found in the samples, doesn't necessarily stem from blood bags. I wish some people wouldn't wet themselves with excitement over nothing. DEHP can also be found in abundance in some makes of PVC cling film, and is readily absorbed by fatty foods like cheese/fat fish etc. and thus enter Conta's body. The plasticizer is a dead end.

Other than that, as a preventative measure, I have a suggestion to make. Why not allow two dopers of any given nationality per annum, and if a third (that would be the turd) is found, all participation is barred from international competitions for one year for competitors of that nationality? Wouldn't that make the national authorities everywhere get serious about doping? Russia has been under that threat, and their cross-country skiers risk being barred from participating in their own olympics in Sotchi unless.....

 

[buckwheat]

All true except he tested positive two days in a row. I have nothing against Lemond, I would much rather say he got me into cycling than the guy who actually did. I believe it highly personal at this point and not all about the sport as he states. I have no problem with that btw, if LA did to me what he did to Lemond I can't say what i would have done. Just stop with this is about cycling and say I want to ruin that doping POS! I would become a Lemond fanboy. Instead he comes off a bit inconsistent as I think he did in the interview. He couldn't go a few words without mentioning a "certain team". I respect a good thirst for blood when its warranted.

Oh, I stand corrected then.

Err, no. It's not about Armstrong. It's about an "anti-doping advocate" reacting to a positive by one of the more suspicious riders out there like an average keyboard warrior.

Maybe Lemond should ask himself why Contador would suddenly have a yearning for a steak from Irun that he can't control for contamination?

Major risk here, given all the examples of doped cattle in Spain. Really unprofessional.

He should have stopped at "if it's on the list it's on the list".

Well, he said what he said. He's a huge figure in the sport, doping issues, and he's very, "talkative," which is his prerogative.

Maybe on the accidental injestion angle, the experts don't know much more than the keyboard warriors? Didn't Catlin defend the American swimmer who said she injested Clen from supplements?

Um, the poster I commented on said he was negative the day following the positive. I don't think you read the original. He said he was negative immediately preceding and immediately following the positive, this is not true. Word smith it how you like he tripped a positive the next day.

He was positive 2 days in a row, and then negative?

 

[Tubeless]

The DEHP plasticizer (as mentioned by the German ARD-journo) possibly found in the samples, doesn't necessarily stem from blood bags. I wish some people wouldn't wet themselves with excitement over nothing. DEHP can also be found in abundance in some makes of PVC cling film, and is readily absorbed by fatty foods like cheese/fat fish etc. and thus enter Conta's body. The plasticizer is a dead end.

Can you explain how ingesting plastic can cause it to get to your bloodstream?

 

[icefire]

Found what I was looking for:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2010/09/30/ciclismo/1285865282.html

Josephine Onyia, Spanish athlete, tested positive for clembuterol with a smaller concentration figure than Contador. The Spanish Federation cleared her but IAAF took the case to CAS and she was banned for 2 years.

 

[slcbiker]

All sorts of ingested chemicals -- steroids, plasticizers and otherwise, can make it to the bloodstream. Usually in lower concentrations than if injected, but its hardly impossible.

 

[slowoldman]

It seems Lance fanboys are having a great time today enjoy it...while it lasts...

It seems as though the fanboys have become the accusers and the accusers have become the apologists. (or fanboys if you prefer)

 

[Parrot23]

If I recall correctly wasn't there suspicion swirling around Menchov during or following his Giro victory?

You bet there were. To his fans it was a "lovely victory" over a doped to the gills di Luca.

Menchov ain't been the same rider since. Wonder why.

 

[christianpetrin]

It´s hard to believe that Contador doped with such a detectable product, but he's already proved he doesn't play fair (remember him attacking while Schleck was trying to fix his dropped chain), so I figure it is quite possible he's not playing fair again (by doping).

 

[roundabout]

Found what I was looking for:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2010/09/30/ciclismo/1285865282.html

Josephine Onyia, Spanish athlete, tested positive for clembuterol with a smaller concentration figure than Contador. The Spanish Federation cleared her but IAAF took the case to CAS and she was banned for 2 years.

Didn't she test positive for something else first?

Wiki says methylhexaneamine but it also says that it was added to the WADA prohibited list in 2009.

I'm confused.

 

[Escarabajo]

Haha, De Boer. The dude *****s himself out to the highest paying doper and will claim whatever you want him to claim. Completely worthless to have him on your side. Actually, you look even more guilty.

+1.

After reading what other cases he has defended I have to agree with you. Bad move Conti.

 

[131313]

Heck, my Mom won't microwave anything using plastic wrap to prevent splatter because she has read that the plastic will give her cancer.

Your mom isn't as crazy as you think.

 

[icefire]

Didn't she test positive for something else first?

Wiki says methylhexaneamine but it also says that it was added to the WADA prohibited list in 2009.

I'm confused.

Yes, that substance AFAIK wasn't banned when she tested positive so it didn't imply a suspension, only a warning. Now, don't ask me what a warning means in this context as I have no idea

She was suspended on her clen positive and only after CAS overturned the Spanish Federation decision to clear her.

 

[Aguirre]

It´s hard to believe that Contador doped with such a detectable product, but he's already proved he doesn't play fair (remember him attacking while Schleck was trying to fix his dropped chain), so I figure it is quite possible he's not playing fair again (by doping).

never heard a such stupid argument, listen, you are mixing up very different human attitudes, according to your argument, he should be what... a pedofile!

or a terrorist?

 

[icefire]

+1.

After reading what other cases he has defended I have to agree with you. Bad move Conti.

I may be wrong, but I've read somewhere that UCI anti-doping committee advised Conti to visit De Boer

 

[hfer07]

the origen of the infamous "meat"

http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos...-hacerlo-publico-infima-cantidad/890741.shtml

according to the video from RTVE, Jose luis lopez Leon-Director/Organizer of Vuleta a Castilla y Leon-did purchase the meat on his way to France & brought it to Contador to prepare a meal. According to AC- he consumed the meat the 20th during supper & the remaining next day for lunch, so he wouldn't spoil/waste it....

PS: after watching a couple of the videos offered by the Spanish Television they are surprisingly making strong commentaries about the case & aren't very supportive of AC at all...

 

[Escarabajo]

Found what I was looking for:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2010/09/30/ciclismo/1285865282.html

Josephine Onyia, Spanish athlete, tested positive for clembuterol with a smaller concentration figure than Contador. The Spanish Federation cleared her but IAAF took the case to CAS and she was banned for 2 years.

Thanks. Nice info.

I don't think now that nothing will save Conti.

 

[131313]

Can you explain how ingesting plastic can cause it to get to your bloodstream?

It can enter your bloodstream from either your intestines or lungs. Food, water and air are all potential candidates. That said, the levels could potentially be higher from plastic tubing used for transfusions, as it enters directly. It seems like a viable way to test for possible transfusions, but I don't know enough about it to really comment.

 

[icefire]

http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos...-hacerlo-publico-infima-cantidad/890741.shtml

according to the video from RTVE, Jose luis lopez Leon-Director/Organizer of Vuleta a Castilla y Leon-did purchase the meat on his way to France & brought it to Contador to prepare a meal. According to AC- he consumed the meat the 20th during supper & the remaining next day for lunch, so he wouldn't spoil/waste it....

PS: after watching a couple of the videos offered by the Spanish Television they are surprisingly making strong commentaries about the case & aren't very supportive of AC at all...

Video commentary sounds neutral to me.

I'm just puzzled to hear that UCI wanted to hide the case but decide to make it public because of leaks to German press

 

[mastersracer]

Video commentary sounds neutral to me.

I'm just puzzled to hear that UCI wanted to hide the case but decide to make it public because of leaks to German press

and the fact that cyclingnews' coverage is so sycophantic. No mention of how the story broke, Seppelt's interaction with McQuaid, large excerpts from Contador's press agent in their story etc. Really soft journalism...

 

[christianpetrin]

If one doesn't play fair with something, he tends not to play fair with everything. It's human nature. That simple.

Drawing this for you so you may understand: if one, having the chance, steal a pen, do you think, this same one, having the opportunity, will he steal a diamond? Think... I don´t need to answer.

 

[bike_framed]

No mention of how the story broke...

You mean no mention of how auscyclefan94 got that free meal?

 

[Aguirre]

cyclingnews pretends to be neutral, but they filter the information, thay say what they get, but they don't say ALL they get, simply as that!!!

UCI dismissed the case, then a filtration to german TV creates the scandal!

It's the time of Mr. Pat