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Señor_Contador said:
Let this serve as a clear example of how justice is unjust to some.

McQuaid wanted Alberto out for what he had done with the Armstrong issue (lots of money involved in charities, long story) and they came up with the positive because they were after him. Paddie is a frigging jerk***!! I hope he chokes on his own vomit.

What justice is served if you can't prove that someone doped? Fruthermore, can 50 picograms of clenbuterol, 50 picograms for motherfu***** sake!!! be considered doping? NO!! It is not.

Postcount 666, Señor. Hope that is Karma designed for McQuaid.

Just the fact that he needs to add "don´t takes any pleasure" in this case, speaks volumes about the dark, dirty, secrets behind the locked door of McQuaid. He got the big fish this time because he could. On the same time he can´t go for Andy because he is the great, western, hope and have his markets behind him.

I suggest McQuaid looks twice behind him walking through a dark alley :mad:
 
No_Balls said:
You bet he considers himself one. Ohhh, i can imagine what the talk will be like...

Well, he's already said he does not want the TDF win handed to him like this.

I don't think he'll say much. What can he say? We know he can't say things like my teammates really worked hard to get this TDF victory (though I'm sure they really did work hard). He'd have to say I'd like to thank CAS, they really worked hard to get me this TDF victory. (just kidding)

He should say "I don't consider myself a TDF winner yet".

Anyway, this news is a bit like getting word that your ailing father just passed away. But he gets to rise again.
 
Angliru said:
The worst part about this is that in one fell swoop the Armstrong/Schleck camp has scored monumental victories. Contador is down, Armstrong is "clean and clear" and Andy has his stage race win, finally. What a way to start a week. I'm sick.:(

Lack of believable witnesses killed the Armstrong case. Would a jury believe Landis and Hamilton even if they were telling the truth with their histories ? I don't think Schleck will feel any better about the win than Perreiro did. Who knows. One thing is clear, the administration of the sport needs a complete shake up to stop these farcical events happening in the future. The process needs to be expedited and the riders should not be allowed to compete. These events are just killing the sport even if people believe the ban was warranted. This is not going to help Greenedge find a sponsor at all, let alone anyone else that showed interest in entering the sport.
 
on3m@n@rmy said:
Well, he's already said he does not want the TDF win handed to him like this.

I don't think he'll say much. What can he say? We know he can't say things like my teammates really worked hard to get this TDF victory (though I'm sure they really did work hard). He'd have to say I'd like to thank CAS, they really worked hard to get me this TDF victory. (just kidding)

He should say "I don't consider myself a TDF winner yet".

Anyway, this news is a bit like getting word that your ailing father just passed away. But he gets to rise again.

It is generally a good descripition of all the feelings going on right now. The feelings comes in a different shades of black and opinions i might regret later.

It damn sucks to be a fanboy knowing this is a bad message to the cyclingworld in general.
 
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I'm confused. How can he race this August if it's a two year ban??? Is this some sort of bueracratic BS where he's getting "time served" considered? He's been racing the whole time since he popped hot! This doesn't pass the common sense test, but then again we're talking about UIC rules here too I guess.
 
Apr 11, 2009
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Okay, read up on it and now I understand. I don't like it, but I understand. It has reaffirmed my belief in lawyers: "Kill them all!" What a bunch of cowards to not put the hammer down on any of these *** Clowns that think doping is okay in professional cycling. Am I beating around the bush here? Too vague?
 
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Angliru said:
The worst part about this is that in one fell swoop the Armstrong/Schleck camp has scored monumental victories. Contador is down, Armstrong is "clean and clear" and Andy has his stage race win, finally. What a way to start a week. I'm sick.:(

+1

TheEnoculator said:
Personally, I believe in Contador's innocence, so I'm very disappointed at the announcement. HOWEVER, from cycling's point of view, it'd be a disastrous precedence to exonerate him. Every cyclist with a clenbuterol positive would start quoting Contador's case and blame the food and want the charges dropped or reduced.

Good point well made. As I said over in the clinic, much as I love Alberto, had he got off completely, there would have been uproar.
 
First of all: **** that ****. It's unbelievable how unfairly cycling is treated. Everyone with similar cases from other sports went unpunished, and all of them had a significantly higher amount of clenbuterol...

Either way, I still believe Contador will have an amazing season. He'll be back in August, and this time there will be no gifts, no mercy. He'll get at least 9 stage wins at the Vuelta+ all jerseys, worlds RR/ITT, Lombardia and everything else he starts. It won't be pretty.
 
maltiv said:
First of all: **** that ****. It's unbelievable how unfairly cycling is treated. Everyone with similar cases from other sports went unpunished, and all of them had a significantly higher amount of clenbuterol...

Either way, I still believe Contador will have an amazing season. He'll be back in August, and this time there will be no gifts, no mercy. He'll get at least 9 stage wins at the Vuelta+ all jerseys, worlds RR/ITT, Lombardia and everything else he starts. It won't be pretty.

Lol that cracked me up.
 
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maltiv said:
First of all: **** that ****. It's unbelievable how unfairly cycling is treated. Everyone with similar cases from other sports went unpunished, and all of them had a significantly higher amount of clenbuterol...

Either way, I still believe Contador will have an amazing season. He'll be back in August, and this time there will be no gifts, no mercy. He'll get at least 9 stage wins at the Vuelta+ all jerseys, worlds RR/ITT, Lombardia and everything else he starts. It won't be pretty.

it might not be pretty but if it does happen it will be freaking awesome :D
 
maltiv said:
First of all: **** that ****. It's unbelievable how unfairly cycling is treated. Everyone with similar cases from other sports went unpunished, and all of them had a significantly higher amount of clenbuterol...

Either way, I still believe Contador will have an amazing season. He'll be back in August, and this time there will be no gifts, no mercy. He'll get at least 9 stage wins at the Vuelta+ all jerseys, worlds RR/ITT, Lombardia and everything else he starts. It won't be pretty.

+1 on all the chapters.
i hope he will come back as a monster and he will never make gifts again.
 
Jul 16, 2010
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I do, can't stand it, him gifting stages away to the likes of Andy again. He'll need to make up the loss of 2 years now and win even more than before. That means no gifts and becoming WC in time trial or road race.
 
Jul 19, 2010
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Another thing that really stinks about this verdict is taking away Contador's entire 2011 season. While I understand the logic of taking away his 2010 Tour win, it's absolutely ridiculous to take away all his results AFTER he was acquitted by the Spanish Federation, whom the UCI themselves handed the case over to. UCI allowed him to ride so as far as Contador's concerned, his points counted. Taking his results away from him is the same as saying, "sorry, we shouldn't have allowed you to ride even after the Spanish Federation exonerated you, and it was wrong for us to hand the case over to your own country."

Contador never tested positive once in 2011, and as far as Giro's concerned, Contador won the 2011 Giro cleanly, so why took his 2011 season away?

This is not only wrong, it's criminal.
 
LaFlorecita said:
... But... I don't want a monster.

Oh yes you do...

It has to be, it needs to be, a new AC. Full of rage. The world clearly screws him around despite him being polite, handing over gifts from here to there. While his case was throwing around as the farce it was. He has to make up entire seasons from now on, starting in August.

Before this ban we saw the gentleman "El Pistolero". He needs to come back at least as El submachinero.

TheEnoculator said:
Another thing that really stinks about this verdict is taking away Contador's entire 2011 season. While I understand the logic of taking away his 2010 Tour win, it's absolutely ridiculous to take away all his results AFTER he was acquitted by the Spanish Federation, whom the UCI themselves handed the case over to. UCI allowed him to ride so as far as Contador's concerned, his points counted. Taking his results away from him is the same as saying, "sorry, we shouldn't have allowed you to ride even after the Spanish Federation exonerated you, and it was wrong for us to hand the case over to your own country."

Contador never tested positive once in 2011, and as far as Giro's concerned, Contador won the 2011 Giro cleanly, so why took his 2011 season away?

This is not only wrong, it's criminal.

+1000

I could live with him being stripped of Le Tour 2010 and this punishment if it wasn´t for that he loses Giro 2011. That is the thing that really goes for me. One of the more finer overall victories in recent memories just throwing out of the window. Handed over to that co-passenger called Scarponi.
 
sorry but i don't think so.i would have liked,loved it to see vino racing for one and half year and then suspended and di luca too.at least we had the privilege to see contador doing awesome things,i don't care about the wikipedia statistics.6 months is a huge mistake but two years without racing would have been a tragedy
 
TheEnoculator said:
Another thing that really stinks about this verdict is taking away Contador's entire 2011 season. While I understand the logic of taking away his 2010 Tour win, it's absolutely ridiculous to take away all his results AFTER he was acquitted by the Spanish Federation, whom the UCI themselves handed the case over to. UCI allowed him to ride so as far as Contador's concerned, his points counted. Taking his results away from him is the same as saying, "sorry, we shouldn't have allowed you to ride even after the Spanish Federation exonerated you, and it was wrong for us to hand the case over to your own country."

Contador never tested positive once in 2011, and as far as Giro's concerned, Contador won the 2011 Giro cleanly, so why took his 2011 season away?

This is not only wrong, it's criminal.

If they hadn't taken away his 2011 results he would have 18 months suspension left.
 
maltiv said:
First of all: **** that ****. It's unbelievable how unfairly cycling is treated. Everyone with similar cases from other sports went unpunished, and all of them had a significantly higher amount of clenbuterol...

Either way, I still believe Contador will have an amazing season. He'll be back in August, and this time there will be no gifts, no mercy. He'll get at least 9 stage wins at the Vuelta+ all jerseys, worlds RR/ITT, Lombardia and everything else he starts. It won't be pretty.
I think this is the only good thing about all this. He'll ride the autumn classics and I hope he wins Emillia and Lombardia:)
 
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El Pistolero said:
I do, can't stand it, him gifting stages away to the likes of Andy again. He'll need to make up the loss of 2 years now and win even more than before. That means no gifts and becoming WC in time trial or road race.

lol WC in the TT.. Yeah he will def be able to beat Cancellara and Martin lol..
 
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So if Contador has been stripped from his 2011 result he is unbeaten in a GT since 2007:cool:


I don't know what will be his answer on the road but the biggest problem is that until 2014 his points not count
 
Forunculo said:
So if Contador has been stripped from his 2011 result he is unbeaten in a GT since 2007:cool:


I don't know what will be his answer on the road but the biggest problem is that until 2014 his points not count

Haha, indeed. That's one positive thing. Although I'd rather have him only erased from the 2011 Tour GC... :p