Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[roundabout]

In my limited experience it doesn't seem like they cover sport much unless it's football or cricket

 

[Benotti69]

I agree with this

Feargal McKay @fmk_RoI · 4m
Wow. I love the way the New UCI quietly announces doping sanctions. It's like stepping back in time to the 1990s...

Cookson showing his transparency.

 

[thehog]

I agree with this



Cookson showing his transparency.

Anti-doping has become so independent from the UCI they don't even know when there's a positive

 

[Benotti69]

Sporza speak to UCI, seems there's a new media policy: doping sanctions will no longer announced to the press

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/140712_Mensjov_schorsing

remember this

“I hope to begin a new era of collaboration, openness and transparency in cycling and restore the trust that has been lost in our great sport”

– @BrianCooksonUCI, june 2013

Cookson is another 'seen to be doing the right thing rather than actually doing the right thing'.

And people criticize those who wonder is his son Oli at Sky not a conflict of interest!!!!

The sport will not change while this BS still goes on. Cookson is going to fail to convince in the age of social media that cycling has cleaned up its act unless he actually changes it for real.

 

[BroDeal]

Cookson is another 'seen to be doing the right thing rathan actually doing the right thing'.

And people criticise those who wonder is his son Oli at Sky not a conflict of interest!!!!

The sport will not change while this BS still goes on. Cookson is going to fail to convince in the age of social media that cycling has cleaned up its act unless he actually changes it for real.

 

[Justico]

however seems more bans are handed out, this must be good somehow

 

[thehog]

No testing on Tenerife.
TUEs handed out at will.
No press releases on doping.

Good times!

 

[Dear Wiggo]

however seems more bans are handed out, this must be good somehow

Yes, because clearly the passport and testing efforts are reducing the doping in the peloton - as evidenced by the reduced number of positives.

er

Wait, what?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Yes, because clearly the passport and testing efforts are reducing the doping in the peloton - as evidenced by the reduced number of positives.

er

Wait, what?

So by that token of reasoning if there were no more positives then that reflects that there is no doping?

er

Wait, what?

 

[thehog]

So by that token of reasoning if there were no more positives then that reflects that there is no doping?

er

Wait, what?

Or if there's no more positives there's no more testing.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Good thing that after everyone who was winning races stopped doping in 2006, that the doping bans, according to Justico, increased.

I haven't looked at the figures.

Is this the case? More bans now?

Coz like. Noone dopes now coz it's no longer cool.

But it is cool for GC guys to be sprinting for flat stages.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Coz like. Noone dopes now coz it's no longer cool.

But it is cool for GC guys to be sprinting for flat stages.

Who actually said that no one dopes? Anyone of note? And if so do you have their exact quote?
Which GC riders were sprinting for flat stages?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Or if there's no more positives there's no more testing.

Correct. So using the single metric of an increased amount of doping cases to show that the passport and testing efforts are not reducing the doping in the peloton is naive at best. #datapoint

 

[DirtyWorks]

however seems more bans are handed out, this must be good somehow

Not at all.

WADA reported 92 urine-sample positives for the UCI specifically, in 2013. Let's pretend that 90 athletes with a couple of idiots spectacularly failing the IQ test.

The UCI would have you believe 80+ of those had TUE's, or some other explanation that SOMEHOW returns "never tested positive."
We're talking urine samples. Failing a urine sample doesn't get much lower-tech than that.

Biological Passport stats do not include the number of positives/suspicious/negative. Given the fact Horner's profile didn't result in a sanction, likely as many positives there.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

There are some worrying signs under Cookson's regime already.

Stiil I will give him another 6-9 months before writing him off.

 

[ebandit]

menchov

menchov thinks fat pat was way better for riders

really? do members imagine that the uci could be transformed instantly from 'well dodgy' to 'perfect' at the drop of a hat

Mark L

 

[hrotha]

menchov thinks fat pat was way better for riders

really? do members imagine that the uci could be transformed instantly from 'well dodgy' to 'perfect' at the drop of a hat

Mark L

It's not that the UCI hasn't become perfect overnight, it's that there's no signs of improvement beyond Cookson's PR.

 

[zigmeister]

Cookson must still be waiting for the 2yr third party analysis and examination of the UCI and final report to start actually doing something apparently with all of these flawed systems/processes.

That is, until something like this, and TUEs blows up and they start to look like a continuation of the tom-foolery under Phat Pat again. Then they start to act like they care...for the time being anyway.

Then it is back to status quo.

I agree about urine test, they are easy. But blood testing is way more thorough and accurate.

Only a 24hr urinalysis can give you much better/accurate results on certain things, but it has to be done in such a way/method so that happens.

Blood testing can actually catch GH...there is NO urine test that can detect GH. Since there are so few blood tests, have at it guys!

 

[Catwhoorg]

Not announcing doping sanctions is fine ONLY if they have a dedicated webpage showing all of them in a single convenient location for anyone to check.

(like the UKAD one)
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule-violations/current-violations/


Other than in that case its a terrible move for transparency and for the sport.

 

[the sceptic]

menchov thinks fat pat was way better for riders

really? do members imagine that the uci could be transformed instantly from 'well dodgy' to 'perfect' at the drop of a hat

Mark L

Do you have any evidence that Cookson has done anything good for the sport?

But at least we know what happened if Froome is mysteriously injuried for a long period of time

 

[Benotti69]

Do you have any evidence that Cookson has done anything good for the sport?

He is making riders wear clear rain capes and cameras on bikes.

 

[Benotti69]

Cookson doing the political thing, lying to our faces while smiling

Brian Cookson OBE @BrianCooksonUCI · 1h
But not on Twitter. Complex situation with legal complications. My commitment to transparency continues but have to respect due process.

UCI = SSDD

 

[Freddythefrog]

Bruce Croall

He is making riders wear clear rain capes and cameras on bikes.

Thank you, noted before but still raised a smile. I went an had a look at that UK Sport list. One cyclist.
Great link here http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/commonwealth-games/team-scotland-chiefs-defend-picking-3624927
Good ol' ex pro Garry Coltman

" Scottish Cycling’s Games captain and performance director Gary Coltman insists both men are now clean, meet selection criteria and the qualification standards required for the Games – and have both served their respective bans.

He said: “It is very simple. We select from the pool of athletes who are available to compete.

“If they are able to compete – if they are out of a ban, if they have completed a ban – then they are free to compete and that is what we go by."

Loved the bit about "Croall, who will compete in the track sprint, was handed a six-month suspension after the drug oxilofrine was found in his system following two gold medal winning performances at the World Masters Championships in Manchester last October.

The City of Edinburgh rider was eventually cleared of seeking to enhance his performance after the doping organisation accepted his positive result was because he had taken a contaminated energy drink – a fact he disclosed on his doping control from.

The logic is faultless ! He won 2 golds. He took the juice and knew it was contaminated but he is all cleans because he wrote that he had taken a contaminated supplement on his test form and that makes it all good.

Somebody tweet the bearded one and ask him for an opinion. You can read it now - "not my job to decide - I will leave that to the experts." In the meantime the sport remains the other side of the U bend with the flow of effluent still coming strong.

I bet Gary was wetting himself with laughter.

 

[thehog]

Do you have any evidence that Cookson has done anything good for the sport?

But at least we know what happened if Froome is mysteriously injuried for a long period of time

Cookson sent the security firm in and secured Pat's laptop.

Hours of cycling videos with some addtional stuff from Amsterdam stored on the hard drive.

I'm well informed all of the horses in the films are over the age of 18. So no problems there. All above board.

 

[Benotti69]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/q-and-a-brian-cookson-discusses-the-uci-presidential-campaign

Have you received any criticism stemming from you manifesto?

Not really. Generally from those that have taken the trouble to read it, it has been well received. The main principles are about establishing a much stronger reality of independence over anti-doping and the structure of cycling, to re-establish the credibility of UCI and then to further develop women’s cycling and cycling around the world. I’ve said this before, but what’s 100 per cent clear from the UCI’s own consultation is that change at the top is needed and I think that I represent that change.

FAIL.

As someone that stands up for transparency can you share what the allegations are?

I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to say anymore whilst investigations are ongoing. It’s not that I’m not in favour of transparency, it’s just that due process must be followed in a case like this. What I will commit to, is that if I’m elected President and we do conduct an independent inquiry into these allegation then I will publish that report as soon as I can. Hopefully within six months. That will be open and transparent and that will be published.

FAIL