Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[the sceptic]

Clearly he is 'influnced'. Prior to the elections I was ridiculed for suggesting this would happen. The SkySports Super Cycling Challenge Series (SSSCCS) coming to a SkySports TV channel near you.

Even when Mark L called me a troll and said I have an anti Cookson agenda I stuck to my opinion that McQuaid was better. Appears I might not have been that far off after all.

 

[ebandit]

I wouldn't get too triumphant just yet.......not enough detail as to what is going to happen.

Seeing as how this is being debated in the Clinic.....I wonder if there are any aspects of this related to anti-doping......one of the things that can be picked up from the limited details is that it is purporting to be partly about attracting sponsors.....is it a strategy to reduce the need for doping by reducing the number of days in the key GTs?...and thereby hope to secure more investment from wary sponsors?.....this wouldn't be the first time this has been suggested....and indeed riders have said it themselves

Mark L

 

[thehog]

A bit more here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/cookson-insists-worldtour-reforms-will-be-in-place-for-2017

But it is hardly detailed reasoning...

Better article here. It's been in play for a while.

http://inrng.com/2014/03/uci-world-tour-reforms/

 

[TailWindHome]

Clearly he is 'influnced'. Prior to the elections I was ridiculed for suggesting this would happen. The SkySports Super Cycling Challenge Series (SSSCCS) coming to a SkySports TV channel near you.

What would prevent Sky Sports buying coverage of the existing events?

 

[thehog]

Give it a few more minutes Mark - the Hawks on here will be scouring and posting every link under the sun soon ...

Ok Martin, let's hold our breaths for the Hawks.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Even when Mark L called me a troll and said I have an anti Cookson agenda I stuck to my opinion that McQuaid was better. Appears I might not have been that far off after all.

As with Flo, let's just remember who started this particular ball rolling.
Clue: it wasn't Cookson.
Both equally culpable when it comes to chasing the cash.

 

[the sceptic]

I wouldn't get too triumphant just yet.......not enough detail as to what is going to happen.

Seeing as how this is being debated in the Clinic.....I wonder if there are any aspects of this related to anti-doping......one of the things that can be picked up from the limited details is that it is purporting to be partly about attracting sponsors.....is it a strategy to reduce the need for doping by reducing the number of days in the key GTs?...and thereby hope to secure more investment from wary sponsors?.....this wouldn't be the first time this has been suggested....and indeed riders have said it themselves

Mark L

The need for doping will always be there. People dope in every single sport in the world regardless. (except for track cycling)

Besides, sponsors don't care about the doping. They care about positive tests. So the key is to keep those to a minimum.

 

[mrhender]

Better article here. It's been in play for a while.

http://inrng.com/2014/03/uci-world-tour-reforms/

But mine has excellent Cookson reasoning

I think it is important that everyone buys into what we come up with at the end of the day and has ownership of it, because some changes will be required,” Cookson told Cyclingnews recently, refusing to go into detail.

I don't want to comment on any one issue.

“I also don't want to give any specific.....................
I'm not going to be a hostage to fortune in that way,

Perhaps it's a little archaic in the way its democratic structure operates but if you're a member of a national federation, you have a voice. I urge people to join their national federations around the world rather than send angry tweets.

We have the final word

 

[the sceptic]

But mine has excellent Cookson reasoning

That is indeed classic Cookson. He is all about transparency!

 

[thehog]

That is indeed classic Cookson. He is all about transparency!

He just needs time, we need to hold our judgments until he's been in power a while

 

[sniper]

That is indeed classic Cookson. He is all about transparency!

Let's look at the Tenerife issue.

Back in June, when Froome first raised a possible issue over a lack of testing, the UCI responded by saying they would investigate the matter. At the time a spokesperson for the governing body told the BBC that "We're looking into the matter with the Cycling Anti-Doping Foundation."

Right. But several months on and no news from UCI. Nada, noppes, forcing Benson to go out and go find some answers.

Several months on and Cyclingnews approached the UCI, asking if they could confirm if tests had been carried out in Tenerife this year. They responded by saying that, "the efficiency of any anti-doping testing strategy relies on the unpredictable nature of the testing location and the element of surprise. Therefore, it is in no one's interest that the UCI and/or the CADF communicate on the number of tests carried out in specific regions."

 

[ebandit]

Nada

Ok, Martin.

Mark L

 

[Mellow Velo]

And as usual, what was an extremely important and interesting debate is brought crashing back down to it's usual denomination.

Time for a nice steak and few glasses of wine.

 

[TailWindHome]

It would be interesting if someone could articulate why they think these changes are a bad idea.

 

[thehog]

It would be interesting if someone could articulate why they think these changes are a bad idea.

Perhaps you could start? Rather than your usual loitering around threads critiquing posters and dropping in pictures of Froome/Cound for purposes to bait.

 

[TailWindHome]

Perhaps you could start? Rather than your usual loitering around threads critiquing posters and dropping in pictures of Froome/Cound for purposes to bait.

Please stop attacking me.

Please

 

[ebandit]

Perhaps you could start? Rather than your usual loitering around threads critiquing posters and dropping in pictures of Froome/Cound for purposes to bait.

Oooh the irony...


Mark L

 

[the sceptic]

Perhaps you could start? Rather than your usual loitering around threads critiquing posters and dropping in pictures of Froome/Cound for purposes to bait.

Agree, it's quite tiresome with these posters who exist solely to nitpick and question other people and never contribute anything to any debate themselves.

 

[thehog]

Please stop attacking me.

Please

You'll be fine.

So give us your thoughts on Cookson's "vision"... what are your thoughts? Good start for the discussion.

 

[TailWindHome]

You'll be fine.

Will you agree to stop attacking me?
Seems like that would be a reasonable point to start any discussion.

 

[thehog]

Will you agree to stop attacking me?
Seems like that would be a reasonable point to start any discussion.

I agree.

So let us know your thoughts on the linked article...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Time for a nice steak and few glasses of wine.

is this a bait

 

[thehog]

Agree, it's quite tiresome with these posters who exist solely to nitpick and question other people and never contribute anything to any debate themselves.

I'd like to hear their position on the matter. Contribution and discussion is important. I look forward to the summary of Cookson latest comments.

 

[ebandit]

I'd like to hear their position on the matter. Contribution and discussion is important. I look forward to the summary of Cookson latest comments.

Apart from posting a link, with absolutely no commentary from yourself...this is your entire contribution to the topic prior to when you started baiting and berating tailwind......

"Rupert Mudoch speaking through his interpreter Brian Cookson said the new format will be perfect for broadcast TV. Coupled with cameras on bikes and the suppression of anti-doping announcements cycling had a bright and very rich future"

Only JV can save cycling now!

Or maybe Lance can buy the Tour with Hein and get things back to the old days.

Clearly he is 'influnced'. Prior to the elections I was ridiculed for suggesting this would happen. The SkySports Super Cycling Challenge Series (SSSCCS) coming to a SkySports TV channel near you.

Ok Martin, let's hold our breaths for the Hawks.

He just needs time, we need to hold our judgments until he's been in power a while

Speaks for itself, doesn't it.

Mark L

 

[thehog]

Apart from posting a link...this is your entire contribution to the topic prior to when you started baiting and berating tailwind......

Speaks for itself, doesn't it.

Mark L

No, I had already provided commentary on the matter weeks ago. I was restating my position as I referenced, do you read?

Cookson, I believe has a master plan. That is to commercialize cycling for the masses - TV, internet etc. He has Murdoch and Vaughters on board to push it further.

Over to you..