Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[Rob27172]

Florecita
there is no crusade against contador, if you think that and you think these guys wouldn't go off on one over others you obviously haven't read the froome thread.

The point is that contador while being as bad as others at the top of the sport (i.e. a doper) also got caught. Forgive me for not buying the contaminated steak BS that was bandied about, he got caught. End of.

You get caught not paying your taxes, your a tax evader. Doesn't matter if it is 1,000 or 1,000,000 it is the same thing. He got caught. He is a doper, current or ex is immaterial.

I would suggest it is you that need to get a bit of a realistic grip on what contador is and how he has won as much as he has.

 

[Rob27172]

Cookson might be worse for cycling than McQuaid, but at least they do/did something:
"you guys take nothing in comparison to footballers."[/I]

Nuff said about the endless bashing of Cookson...

Maybe cycling drinks in the last chance saloon, but other sports have left the saloon long ago... totally drunk to ever recover.

Sorry I didn't realise we were in the forum for comparing multiple sports against each other.

In which case lets go for weight lifting, NFL, NHL, MLB, US College football, US college wrestling, Cross country skiing, downhill skiing, Body Building, Hockey, Rugby, etc, etc, etc

This is a cycling website and a cycling forum; so saying cycling is not worse than football so we shouldn't be having a go at the head of the cycling world for doing very little to clean up our sport; is a bit like a proverbial snowball in hell
Complete waste of everyone's time and doesn't add anything whatsoever.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Florecita
there is no crusade against contador, if you think that and you think these guys wouldn't go off on one over others you obviously haven't read the froome thread.

The point is that contador while being as bad as others at the top of the sport (i.e. a doper) also got caught. Forgive me for not buying the contaminated steak BS that was bandied about, he got caught. End of.

You get caught not paying your taxes, your a tax evader. Doesn't matter if it is 1,000 or 1,000,000 it is the same thing. He got caught. He is a doper, current or ex is immaterial.

I would suggest it is you that need to get a bit of a realistic grip on what contador is and how he has won as much as he has.

I love how you think you've got me all figured out while you only joined the forum last month

 

[sniper]

...
Besides, for the love of everything that is holy, please realize that Contador never got banned for deliberately doping. I'm not saying he's clean, but officially he is just as innocent as all the other dopers that never got banned. It makes me angry to see many people clearly want to see him ostracized. He is no worse than Froome, Nibali, Quintana, Cancellara, Rodriguez and the likes. Would you get your panties in a twist if the UCI twitter account tweeted one of their quotes? I bet not! Please, he's a doper, but he at least got punished for it even though the ban itself was dubious, so stop the crusade against him.

i agree with this. Although i would appreciate to read more about Alberto's doping in the Circ report, I would much prefer to see other riders (Wiggins/Froome/Hesjedal) and especially docs, enablers (DSs) and UCI officials be exposed instead of Alberto.
I could live with not hearing anything about Dirty ever again in terms of doping.
He took his suspension like a man, and he came back with a vengeance.
I have grown towards Derty Berty in the last coupla years or so.

 

[JimmyFingers]

So you're using a tweet probably sent by an intern quoting Contador as a stick to bash Cookson? Riiiight

 

[mrhender]

So you're using a tweet probably sent by an intern quoting Contador as a stick to bash Cookson? Riiiight

The "intern" theory is possible but why on earth would the UCI have interest in letting an intern running a twitter feed with 126.000 followers?

Even so one would think that some guidelines were in place to avoid too much doping talk right? Or other potential areas of criticism. Why arm the the twitter warriors?

And especially on the brink of a big report release one would think that all communication platforms was under some supervision to avoid blunders..
They should be at all times in my opinion..

I brought the feed in here suggesting we could rule out CIRC problems for Contador.. That is very circumstantial and based upon opinion but so is the "naive intern" theory...

Anyway none of this matters much... I f they don't promote one doper it is probably just another...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Of course it's not an intern but it's not likely to be someone with a lot of inside info either.

 

[mrhender]

Of course it's not an intern but it's not likely to be someone with a lot of inside info either.

Of course everyone working with communication in UCI is not well-informed..

Which is why I suggest that some policies are/should be in place...

A major player like the UCI choose themselves how they wan't to twitter-promote the sport.. Promoting a convicted doper and world-beater while being open-mouthed in other areas of communication towards doping makes sense beacause AC is the one that brings the money home...

Personally I don't care much about the Contador-tweet because I can understand why they do it as well as I'am able to see through it...

 

[sniper]

The "intern" theory is possible but why on earth would the UCI have interest in letting an intern running a twitter feed with 126.000 followers?

Even so one would think that some guidelines were in place to avoid too much doping talk right? Or other potential areas of criticism. Why arm the the twitter warriors?

And especially on the brink of a big report release one would think that all communication platforms was under some supervision to avoid blunders..
They should be at all times in my opinion..

I brought the feed in here suggesting we could rule out CIRC problems for Contador.. That is very circumstantial and based upon opinion but so is the "naive intern" theory...

Anyway none of this matters much... I f they don't promote one doper it is probably just another...

clever post.
indeed this is exactly what i was thinking too.
goes to show great minds think alike.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Sorry I didn't realise we were in the forum for comparing multiple sports against each other.

Who are you little arrogant pretender to assume you are moderator?
Its the 2nd time you come out of your hole to attack me.
If you have something to say, try it in a friendly manner.

And now to enlighten you: Yes we are in a forum to compare things from A to Z.
Just take a look over the rim of your small tea cup to realize this before hitting out the next time.
Now I could tell you why I posted my comparison here and not in the soccer thread. But I wont, simply b/c you are not worth it...

Complete waste of everyone's time and doesn't add anything whatsoever.

Dont throw stones when sitting in a glass house.
I might have been off topic 200 times (every time with a reason) out of almost 6.000, which accounts for roughly 3% of my posts...
But you did the trick just 6 mins before complaining about me being off topic (and a total 4 out of 10 times posting here for a "awesome" 40%-rate):

Florecita
there is no crusade against contador, if you think that and you think these guys wouldn't go off on one over others you obviously haven't read the froome thread.

The point is that contador while being as bad as others at the top of the sport (i.e. a doper) also got caught. Forgive me for not buying the contaminated steak BS that was bandied about, he got caught. End of.

You get caught not paying your taxes, your a tax evader. Doesn't matter if it is 1,000 or 1,000,000 it is the same thing. He got caught. He is a doper, current or ex is immaterial.

I would suggest it is you that need to get a bit of a realistic grip on what contador is and how he has won as much as he has.

So learn yourself the forum rules first before trying to "teach" others. Bloody rookie.

 

[DirtyWorks]

The "intern" theory is possible but why on earth would the UCI have interest in letting an intern running a twitter feed with 126.000 followers?

Even so one would think that some guidelines were in place to avoid too much doping talk right? Or other potential areas of criticism. Why arm the the twitter warriors?

And especially on the brink of a big report release one would think that all communication platforms was under some supervision to avoid blunders..
They should be at all times in my opinion..

I brought the feed in here suggesting we could rule out CIRC problems for Contador.. That is very circumstantial and based upon opinion but so is the "naive intern" theory...

Anyway none of this matters much... I f they don't promote one doper it is probably just another...

Agree.

I'm sticking my neck out and guessing Contador is not mentioned in the CIRC report.

The timing and content of the graphic, which is not a small task to produce, is salient.

 

[Archibald]

Sorry I didn't realise we were in the forum for comparing multiple sports against each other.

In which case lets go for weight lifting, NFL, NHL, MLB, US College football, US college wrestling, Cross country skiing, downhill skiing, Body Building, Hockey, Rugby, etc, etc, etc

This is a cycling website and a cycling forum; so saying cycling is not worse than football so we shouldn't be having a go at the head of the cycling world for doing very little to clean up our sport; is a bit like a proverbial snowball in hell
Complete waste of everyone's time and doesn't add anything whatsoever.

Good post, Hog.

hate to say it, but Foxy's mentioned cookson, mcquaid and used an example to show level of doping in cycling - not sure how that's off topic in a doping forum thread discussing the two aforementioned tools and their respective contributions to cycling and fight on doping...

 

[ebandit]

Omg

OMG.............only here could members be outraged that the UCI use image of

one of the most popular cyclists to promote cycling

bertie served his time

Mark L

 

[LaFlorecita]

OMG.............only here could members be outraged that the UCI use image of

one of the most popular cyclists to promote cycling

bertie served his time

Mark L

As usual we are on the same page.

I hope Alberto is not mentioned in the report but I doubt this UCI tweet is an indication that he isn't.

 

[Benotti69]

OMG.............only here could members be outraged that the UCI use image of

one of the most popular cyclists to promote cycling

bertie served his time

Mark L

And only here could members post their outrage about others outrage.....

 

[TailWindHome]

And only here could members post their outrage about others outrage.....

That's an outrageous comment.

 

[mrhender]

I'am outraged that I fail to see any outrage displayed in this matter.....

observations-interpretations-opinions

That is all I see...

 

[Benotti69]

I'am outraged that I fail to see any outrage displayed in this matter.....

observations-interpretations-opinions

That is all I see...

ah c'mon, Flo was outraged on behalf of Bertie allbeit from a fangirls perspective

 

[DirtyWorks]

OMG.............only here could members be outraged that the UCI use image of

one of the most popular cyclists to promote cycling

bertie served his time

Mark L

If Popularity is the main criteria, then they should be using Armstrong images. See how that works?

You are right though. He's a popular rider that wins. Doping does not matter to the UCI and that's why the sport carries a worldwide stench of doping and corruption.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'am outraged that I fail to see any outrage displayed in this matter.....

observations-interpretations-opinions

That is all I see...

People are outraged that the UCI used a doper's quote for social media purposes what they fail to see is that the UCI don't use his quote because he is a doper but because he is a very popular cyclist.

 

[LaFlorecita]

ah c'mon, Flo was outraged on behalf of Bertie allbeit from a fangirls perspective

I was outraged because people want to see Alberto ostracized

 

[skippythepinhead]

I was outraged because people want to see Alberto ostracized

You are right to be outraged for that. He is just one doped up cyclist among many, and not even close to the worst of the bunch. He's much more human since returning from suspension (my opinion).

 

[ebandit]

up

If Popularity is the main criteria, then they should be using Armstrong images. See how that works?

bertie served his time...........lance lifetime ban........................

why? misrepresent facts

Mark L

 

[doperhopper]

If Popularity is the main criteria, then they should be using Armstrong images. See how that works?

You are right though. He's a popular rider that wins. Doping does not matter to the UCI and that's why the sport carries a worldwide stench of doping and corruption.

and moreover, times are changing, says none other than The Czar Oleg, using this example (no joke, really said that) - what to say, doping is so uncool today that even The Mighty Uniballer would not dope, what a New Clean Era!

---

Tinkov also spoke about Lance Armstrong's recent interview with the BBC News where the Texan said if he were racing in 2015, he would not dope again. "That means that times are changing," Tinkov said. "I think it's a good sign."

 

[Benotti69]

It is possible UCI chose the Contador image and quote to please their friend Oleg.