Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[BYOP88]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/worldtour-teams-set-to-boycott-2016-world-championships-team-time-trial

I'd guess that all World Tour teams will ride that race. It would be great if they didn't.

 

[Nick C.]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/worldtour-teams-set-to-boycott-2016-world-championships-team-time-trial

I'd guess that all World Tour teams will ride that race. It would be great if they didn't.

It would be lol-tastic if they went through with this. It is almost but not quite as bad as the fast tracked Tour of Beijing that was coincidentally organized by a company run by McQuaid or a relative or both.

 

[thehog]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/worldtour-teams-set-to-boycott-2016-world-championships-team-time-trial

I'd guess that all World Tour teams will ride that race. It would be great if they didn't.

It would be lol-tastic if they went through with this. It is almost but not quite as bad as the fast tracked Tour of Beijing that was coincidentally organized by a company run by McQuaid or a relative or both.

No, Pat's brother was the organizer of the Richmond Worlds which was given selected by the UCI management committee (including Cookson).

The Tour of Beijing etc. was a separate company set up by the UCI for race promotion called GCP - Global Cycling Promotions but it wholly owned by the UCI and managed by Pat McQuaid and Alan Rumpf. They funded it with anti-doping funds paid by the teams (which caused a reduction in testing). The conflict being that gave ProTour status to the races in the teams forcing the teams to attend the race. It was a slap in the face to many other self funded races. The concept was to build a cycling race promotions company that could compete with ASO. It failed badly, Cookson shut it down last year, one of the smarter things he's done.

 

[Benotti69]

UCI rewriting the rules for the Mens Keirin final in Rio so Jason Kenny was not disqualified. Cheats.

 

[GreasyChain]

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UCI rewriting the rules for the Mens Keirin final in Rio so Jason Kenny was not disqualified. Cheats.

You mean they ignored the rules. But then your knowledge of rules and laws seems to be rather limited.

See innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. and also Habeus Corpus.

If the entire UCI was being run for the benefit of one team then for instance a cyclist who crossed the line with part of their bike missing would surely be kicked out and the win awarded to their rival who I do remember came from the same team you claim to be favoured in every race.

You can't even keep your racism under control for 5 seconds to think logically can you?

 

[Benotti69]

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UCI rewriting the rules for the Mens Keirin final in Rio so Jason Kenny was not disqualified. Cheats.

You mean they ignored the rules. But then your knowledge of rules and laws seems to be rather limited.

See innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. and also Habeus Corpus.

In a court of law. In sport? Nope. In a forum, no.

If the entire UCI was being run for the benefit of one team then for instance a cyclist who crossed the line with part of their bike missing would surely be kicked out and the win awarded to their rival who I do remember came from the same team you claim to be favoured in every race.

Please refer to the medal table for Track Cycling at Rio 2106 Olympics for an example of favouritism.

<snipped for insults>

 

[capuldemetal]

how convenient..a video from a british official saved kenny's ass.

 

[Benotti69]

Russian anti-doping lab tampering 'doesn't have that big an impact' on cycling, says Cookson

UCI president maintains cycling has grown in credibility

“I don't want to be complacent or to criticise other sports. I think what we have done was necessary for our sport," Cookson said

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/russian-anti-doping-lab-tampering-doesnt-have-that-big-an-impact-on-cycling-says-cookson/?utm_content=buffere4d99&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

[Benotti69]

At the end of 2013 Cookson said he already had to deal with 70 doping cases (in just a few months).

2014 (7): Ulissi, Tiernan-Locke, Barredo, Menchov, V. Iglinsky, M. Iglinsky, Santambrogio

2015 (3 ½): Mondory, Paolini, Danielson, Caruso (re-test from 2012)

2016 (1): Yates

This year only 9 cases have been made public (in 8 months). Only 1 World Tour rider.

The rug at UCI must be a mountain.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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At the end of 2013 Cookson said he already had to deal with 70 doping cases (in just a few months).

2014 (7): Ulissi, Tiernan-Locke, Barredo, Menchov, V. Iglinsky, M. Iglinsky, Santambrogio

2015 (3 ½): Mondory, Paolini, Danielson, Caruso (re-test from 2012)

2016 (1): Yates

This year only 9 cases have been made public (in 8 months). Only 1 World Tour rider.

The rug at UCI must be a mountain.

The actual list of suspensions http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/63/88/20160829ProvisionalSuspensionEN_English.PDF and the actual list of sanctions http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/32/52/20160901SanctionADRVENG2.0_English.pdf Now how 'bout somebody whistle up the actual quote from 2013, just so we can see how wrong it is? TIA.

 

[keeponrollin]

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At the end of 2013 Cookson said he already had to deal with 70 doping cases (in just a few months).

2014 (7): Ulissi, Tiernan-Locke, Barredo, Menchov, V. Iglinsky, M. Iglinsky, Santambrogio

2015 (3 ½): Mondory, Paolini, Danielson, Caruso (re-test from 2012)

2016 (1): Yates

This year only 9 cases have been made public (in 8 months). Only 1 World Tour rider.

The rug at UCI must be a mountain.

The actual list of suspensions http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/63/88/20160829ProvisionalSuspensionEN_English.PDF and the actual list of sanctions http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/17/32/52/20160901SanctionADRVENG2.0_English.pdf Now how 'bout somebody whistle up the actual quote from 2013, just so we can see how wrong it is? TIA.

Presumably there are a bunch of files like Henao, labeled, 'No Further Action'

 

[ontheroad]

This guy has proven to be a weak leader who also disappears in moments of crisis. His relationship with his friends at Sky have compromised his independence and he should have made a statement by now on the TUE misuse in the peolton and in particular that of Bradley Wiggins a previous TDF winner no less.

What is his opinion on the current TUE system and is it adequate, transparent and does it help riders with minor ailments gain an unfair advantage by abusing the system. Does he think that riders should be allowed to race with drugs as powerful as the corticosteroid Wiggins took?

Who currently sanctions TUE's and how can we be sure of their independence? Are they approved by one single doctor as appears to have been the case with Zorzoli previously or is there an independent panel set up? We need to hear from you Mr President.

 

[thehog]

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This guy has proven to be a weak leader who also disappears in moments of crisis. His relationship with his friends at Sky have compromised his independence and he should have made a statement by now on the TUE misuse in the peolton and in particular that of Bradley Wiggins a previous TDF winner no less.

What is his opinion on the current TUE system and is it adequate, transparent and does it help riders with minor ailments gain an unfair advantage by abusing the system. Does he think that riders should be allowed to race with drugs as powerful as the corticosteroid Wiggins took?

Who currently sanctions TUE's and how can we be sure of their independence? Are they approved by one single doctor as appears to have been the case with Zorzoli previously or is there an independent panel set up? We need to hear from you Mr President.

I would have to agree, he is a very weak leader with his head in the sand most of the time. I'd be surprised if he lasts through the next election.

 

[sniper]

And Zorzoli reinstated.
That means cookson not only incompetent and weak, but also corrupt and complicit in doping.
No grey areas here. Just pure rot.

 

[Benotti69]

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And Zorzoli reinstated.
That means cookson not only incompetent and weak, but also corrupt and complicit in doping.
No grey areas here. Just pure rot.

This.

Cookson no different from his predecessors. Corrupt, complicit and on TeamSky.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

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This guy has proven to be a weak leader who also disappears in moments of crisis. His relationship with his friends at Sky have compromised his independence and he should have made a statement by now on the TUE misuse in the peolton and in particular that of Bradley Wiggins a previous TDF winner no less.

What is his opinion on the current TUE system and is it adequate, transparent and does it help riders with minor ailments gain an unfair advantage by abusing the system. Does he think that riders should be allowed to race with drugs as powerful as the corticosteroid Wiggins took?

Who currently sanctions TUE's and how can we be sure of their independence? Are they approved by one single doctor as appears to have been the case with Zorzoli previously or is there an independent panel set up? We need to hear from you Mr President.

I would have to agree, he is a very weak leader with his head in the sand most of the time. I'd be surprised if he lasts through the next election.

Exactly what those doing the voting want and probably why he got the job in the first place. Keep the gravy train rolling

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

This guy has proven to be a weak leader who also disappears in moments of crisis. His relationship with his friends at Sky have compromised his independence and he should have made a statement by now on the TUE misuse in the peolton and in particular that of Bradley Wiggins a previous TDF winner no less.

What is his opinion on the current TUE system and is it adequate, transparent and does it help riders with minor ailments gain an unfair advantage by abusing the system. Does he think that riders should be allowed to race with drugs as powerful as the corticosteroid Wiggins took?

Who currently sanctions TUE's and how can we be sure of their independence? Are they approved by one single doctor as appears to have been the case with Zorzoli previously or is there an independent panel set up? We need to hear from you Mr President.

I would have to agree, he is a very weak leader with his head in the sand most of the time. I'd be surprised if he lasts through the next election.

Exactly what those doing the voting want and probably why he got the job in the first place. Keep the gravy train rolling

I guess the majority who chose Cookson, wanted the gravy train. But Irish cycling brought down McQuaid and I dont think those guys were/are on any gravy train.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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And Zorzoli reinstated.

A link for this, please.

I have the January 2015 suspension

I have the March 2015 reinstatement

I have the July 2015 departure

I don't appear to have the post July 2015 return your comment suggests must have happened. And it's not like you to be wrong on something.

 

[sniper]

so indeed he was reinstated.
thanks for checking.

btw, from the third link:
Cookson: "CADF [is] totally independent"
yikes. You don't lie on Monday but not on Tuesday.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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so indeed he was reinstated.
thanks for checking.

So sniper was wrong, eh? Gosh. Well, well done, excellent, great find all the same. But, next time, don't trust the shite you read on Twitter, eh? Some people there, they get their 'news' from the craziest sources.

 

[sniper]

if i couldn't stand being corrected, i wouldn't be involved in a discussion forum.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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if i couldn't stand being corrected, i wouldn't be involved in a discussion forum.

Certainly not with what you post here.

 

[sniper]

exactly, and that's the whole story.

fmk since you're on twitter, maybe you could school Michael on the Zorzoli issue?

btw, does anybody know if the "Olaf Schumacher (GER)" who is currently listed as member of UCI medical committee is the same person as the Yorck Olaf Schumacher who used to be a member of the UCI medical committee and helped develop the biopassport? (see, e.g.:
http://sportsscientists.com/2009/08/doping-control-interview-with-prof-schumacher/ )
Seems like a funny name coincidence.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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fmk since you're on twitter, maybe you could school Michael on the Zorzoli issue?

Do it yourself. I don't follow him. Or the idiot who retweeted his comment.

 

[sniper]

ok. "Michael, you said Zorzoli got reinstated in 2015? Well, hate to tell you, but, er, you were right (courtesy of fmkrol)".