Cookson is worse for cycling than McQuaid

[purcell]

It is starting to worry me how often lately I find myself agreeing with Lance Armstrong ...........

 

[DirtyWorks]

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It just goes to show that UKAD, UKsport have no way of controlling Sky or Brailsford. He does as he pleases.

I posted for a long time that UKAD, or any other NADO have no authority over the IOC sports federations. Is it any clearer now?

It's a great system. The IOC and sports federations pretend WADA/NADOs have authority. When they don't. Not even a little. The sports press confuses the situation so they get their press passes every four years.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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Cookson is some clown to have in charge. Gone into hiding as per usual since the further revelations at Westminster last week.

Is he worse than McQuaid. I'd say he's definitely no better and lacks any kind of authority or leadership. Has shown absolutely no desire to change the culture within cycling.

Well, since the UCI President has to come from the management committee, he wasn't ever going to do anything to change the culture. He liked the culture just fine.

Current affairs suggest ASO/Lappartient are well positioned for the next election.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Mr. Lappartient has a big money outside sponsor for a new WT team based in France. Who will, remarkably, become grand tour and Olympic dominant in a 24 months and Paris wins the summer games bid. Crazy!

 

[S2Sturges]

I'm beginning respect Lance more and more as time goes on.

Indeed.... Thank you, Lance ...

 

[Benotti69]

I'm beginning respect Lance more and more as time goes on.

That will only aid Cookson. While participants in the clinic can see the 50 shades of grey in the sport some only see black and white and will argue well if Lance calls Cookson a clown Cookson must be doing something right.

I wonder did Lance post that to help Cookson.

 

[thehog]

Former British Cycling president Brian Cookson has also not given any evidence

What a waste of space

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pooley-on-brailsford-a-fish-rots-from-the-head/

Is she talking about Brailsford here? Brian was the head of the stinking fish.

 

[keeponrollin]

I'm beginning respect Lance more and more as time goes on.

Indeed.... Thank you, Lance ...

I've never really noticed before how much like Jeremy Corbyn, Cookson looks.

Both complete wastes of Oxygen too.

 

[GraftPunk]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pooley-on-brailsford-a-fish-rots-from-the-head/

Is she talking about Brailsford here? Brian was the head of the stinking fish.

I'd like to think she's leaving it open to interpretation, but I'd say it's an indictment of BC in general despite the fact she points out not all the apples are rotten. It's seems to be a corporate culture issue at the heart of it.

Edited for grammar

 

[fmk_RoI]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pooley-on-brailsford-a-fish-rots-from-the-head/

Is she talking about Brailsford here? Brian was the head of the stinking fish.

If you read what you said it's pretty clear that she's not talking about Cookson.

 

[Beech Mtn]

How did Cookson come to be in charge of BC in the first place? I get how he got the UCI job, but who decided Cookie was such a dynamite administrator that he'd be perfect to head up British cycling?

 

[fmk_RoI]

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How did Cookson come to be in charge of BC in the first place? I get how he got the UCI job, but who decided Cookie was such a dynamite administrator that he'd be perfect to head up British cycling?

It's a long story. Short version, back in the day Tony Doyle overthrew the old order, dummies were spat all over the place, conflicts of interest galore were revealed, British Cycling - or the BCF as it was then - was the laughing stock of the nation (questions were being asked in parliament) and beyond (Hein Verburggen publicly criticised them), Doyle was ousted and Cookson - a sort of least offensive alternative with no dodgy past - got the role of figurehead. But he was only a figurehead, no one saw him as having the real power.

 

[Beech Mtn]

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How did Cookson come to be in charge of BC in the first place? I get how he got the UCI job, but who decided Cookie was such a dynamite administrator that he'd be perfect to head up British cycling?

It's a long story. Short version, back in the day Tony Doyle overthrew the old order, dummies were spat all over the place, conflicts of interest galore were revealed, British Cycling - or the BCF as it was then - was the laughing stock of the nation (questions were being asked in parliament) and beyond (Hein Verburggen publicly criticised them), Doyle was ousted and Cookson - a sort of least offensive alternative with no dodgy past - got the role of figurehead. But he was only a figurehead, no one saw him as having the real power.

Thanks. Sounds not unlike how he ended up in charge of the UCI. Sort of a useful stooge to inoffensively keep up appearances and let things blow over while others keep hold of the real power behind the scenes.

Seems an odd way for a grown man to earn a living, but I suppose it pays well. You'd think he'd want to do something with his Presidency, though.

I wonder if Cookson knows, on some level, that he's being used? Or if he's naive and actually believes he may be helping clean up a messy situation? But then, given his lack of apparent action regarding the current BC inquiries and scandals, I'm also wondering if he doesn't really care so much about the institution, the sport, or his own reputation, but rather, likes money and non-conflict. Maybe he is one of those men of inactivity who thinks staying completely out of things is the ethical, correct course of action - being impartial as UCI President. Maybe he doesn't want to help attach his name to any of this or have to answer to the Parliamentary committee about lack of oversight of public resources (can't blame him for that).

I find Cookson's inactivity irritating. McQuaid often made a mess of things, but at least he had some fight to him and didn't hide when controversy struck. He'd be out there with the press hacking away in these interviews. Cookie is just blah.

 

[thehog]

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How did Cookson come to be in charge of BC in the first place? I get how he got the UCI job, but who decided Cookie was such a dynamite administrator that he'd be perfect to head up British cycling?

It's a long story. Short version, back in the day Tony Doyle overthrew the old order, dummies were spat all over the place, conflicts of interest galore were revealed, British Cycling - or the BCF as it was then - was the laughing stock of the nation (questions were being asked in parliament) and beyond (Hein Verburggen publicly criticised them), Doyle was ousted and Cookson - a sort of least offensive alternative with no dodgy past - got the role of figurehead. But he was only a figurehead, no one saw him as having the real power.

Thanks. Sounds not unlike how he ended up in charge of the UCI. Sort of a useful stooge to inoffensively keep up appearances and let things blow over while others keep hold of the real power behind the scenes.

Seems an odd way for a grown man to earn a living, but I suppose it pays well. You'd think he'd want to do something with his Presidency, though.

I wonder if Cookson knows, on some level, that he's being used? Or if he's naive and actually believes he may be helping clean up a messy situation? But then, given his lack of apparent action regarding the current BC inquiries and scandals, I'm also wondering if he doesn't really care so much about the institution, the sport, or his own reputation, but rather, likes money and non-conflict. Maybe he is one of those men of inactivity who thinks staying completely out of things is the ethical, correct course of action - being impartial as UCI President. Maybe he doesn't want to help attach his name to any of this or have to answer to the Parliamentary committee about lack of oversight of public resources (can't blame him for that).

I find Cookson's inactivity irritating. McQuaid often made a mess of things, but at least he had some fight to him and didn't hide when controversy struck. He'd be out there with the press hacking away in these interviews. Cookie is just blah.

Agree on all of this. McQuaid was a clown but at least he cared enough to make a comment. In saying that, Cookson is slimey. During this whole affair he's been busy out touring the globe securing votes for the next election from the Middle East and Asia. His tweets are obvious of a man willing to buy the next election with UCI money.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Agree on all of this. McQuaid was a clown but at least he cared enough to make a comment. In saying that, Cookson is slimey. During this whole affair he's been busy out touring the globe securing votes for the next election from the Middle East and Asia. His tweets are obvious of a man willing to buy the next election with UCI money.

The thing about PMQ was that he actually had a vision for the sport - admittedly, it wasn't his own vision, it was HV's, but it was a vision nonetheless - whereas BC is ... well, blind. He's more interested in process - consensus - than progress. And yes, winning the election - or stopping an election from happening - is very much all he is doing right now. It's up to Lappartient (or Jean-Claude Van Damme) to take the British Cycling issue to Cookson, but that's not likely to happen until the next management meeting.

 

[thehog]

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Agree on all of this. McQuaid was a clown but at least he cared enough to make a comment. In saying that, Cookson is slimey. During this whole affair he's been busy out touring the globe securing votes for the next election from the Middle East and Asia. His tweets are obvious of a man willing to buy the next election with UCI money.

The thing about PMQ was that he actually had a vision for the sport - admittedly, it wasn't his own vision, it was HV's, but it was a vision nonetheless - whereas BC is ... well, blind. He's more interested in process - consensus - than progress. And yes, winning the election - or stopping an election from happening - is very much all he is doing right now. It's up to Lappartient (or Jean-Claude Van Damme) to take the British Cycling issue to Cookson, but that's not likely to happen until the next management meeting.

I didn't loath Mcquaid but his teathering to HV was his ultimate downfall. He also was stuck on USPS/Armstrong due to the same teathering. I would say that McQuaid wasn't adverse to punishing dopers not matter who they were - Contador, Ullrich etc. I won't say that Mcquaid was chasing down dopers but if the situation was presented he banned them. Whereas Cookson appears intent on ensuring no one in the ProTour ever tests positive anymore and if they do they get let off - Rogers, Impey etc.

 

[Nick C.]

Wasn't one gripe about McQuaid the denial of a conflict of interest when events like the Tour of Beijing were given UCI top status and happened to be operated by a company controlled by his brother, or am I misremembering?

Cookson is just a cardboard cutout.

 

[thehog]

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Wasn't one gripe about McQuaid the denial of a conflict of interest when events like the Tour of Beijing were given UCI top status and happened to be operated by a company controlled by his brother, or am I misremembering?

Cookson is just a cardboard cutout.

No, that was the Richmond Worlds and the Tour of Ireland for Lance Comeback 2.0.

Tour of Beijing was run by a company owned by the UCI, which in some respects could be seen as a conflict. Cookson shut it down after year one and invested UCI money into the Tour de Yorkshire and events in the Middle East.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Wasn't one gripe about McQuaid the denial of a conflict of interest when events like the Tour of Beijing were given UCI top status and happened to be operated by a company controlled by his brother, or am I misremembering?

Cookson is just a cardboard cutout.

No, that was the Richmond Worlds and the Tour of Ireland for Lance Comeback 2.0.

Tour of Beijing was run by a company owned by the UCI, which in some respects could be seen as a conflict. Cookson shut it down after year one and invested UCI money into the Tour de Yorkshire and events in the Middle East.

And Cookson added a Chinese WT race at the last minute for 2017, in an effort to be nice to Wang Jianlin and his impressively large bank balance. Which, when you consider the difficulties China's latest currency restrictions are causing Wanda's Hollywood expansion, may prove to be even dumber than the Tour of Beijing.

 

[GraftPunk]

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Wasn't one gripe about McQuaid the denial of a conflict of interest when events like the Tour of Beijing were given UCI top status and happened to be operated by a company controlled by his brother, or am I misremembering?

Cookson is just a cardboard cutout.

No, that was the Richmond Worlds and the Tour of Ireland for Lance Comeback 2.0.

Tour of Beijing was run by a company owned by the UCI, which in some respects could be seen as a conflict. Cookson shut it down after year one and invested UCI money into the Tour de Yorkshire and events in the Middle East.

Correct on Richmond's WC, and I believe his brother's company suffered some massive setbacks in terms of setting up future planned races. Not sure how relevant that info is, but I often wonder how many bridges the McQuaid's burned along the way that may have tarnished their... ehrmm... legacy in the sport.

 

[thehog]

Cookie is off the grid! No selfies or tweets for 2 weeks, where is the bearded one?

 

[thehog]

Cookie is off the grid! No selfies or tweets for 2 weeks, where is the bearded one?

Do we need to send Jason Bourne out to look for him?

 

[thehog]

We found him! :surprised:

 

[Irondan]

We found him! :surprised:

What the what???

 

[thehog]

He'll do anything for votes, including dressing up as little bo beep :surprised: