Robert Redfield overheard criticizing taskforce’s Scott Atlas, while Anthony Fauci concerned at ‘incorrect’ information from Atlas
More evidence that herd immunity is not present in Manaus. Once these people plugged themselves back in to the community, infections started to rise again.Especially for COVID, how do you estimate the number of people who are staying inside and effectively removing themselves from the viral pool? Human nature is what it is, so I think the people in Manaus saw their hospital infrastructure crumbling and holed up as best they could to limit their exposure. That behavior is not new and is one big reason why you will not hit 60-70%. People would have to be completely unwitting of what is happening around them. Combine that shrinking of the infection pool with the 20-30% actual infections to help constrict the viral spread and it is not hard to see why cases went down. Get R below 1 and that will happen. The people who think 20% is herd immunity are assuming that 40-50% of the population was already immune due to cross-reactive T cells from other CoVs. That is a pretty dubious suggestion at this point.
View: https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1311273896717570048The analysis suggests that stay-at-home restrictions plausibly removed 89% of the population from the risk of infection with the remaining 11% exposed to an unmitigated outbreak that infected 9.3% of the total population.
LOL. What reality is this guy living in? Notice how there has to be a persecution angle to the con. I am sure that tenured profs are cowering in terror over their job security. It looks like Germany has a Mikovits of their own. Good thing they have their own Fauci too. Of note for those who have posted about Drosten in the past.there many scientists and professors are afraid to say against Covid for fear of losing their jobs and grants
Its kind of weird that the deniers of climate change use a slightly different, but equally stupid line: "all of the climate scientists know that they have to agree that there is change otherwise they will lose their money". Does that include all of the fossil fuel scientist who have the same findings (but hide them)?LOL. What reality is this guy living in? Notice how there has to be a persecution angle to the con. I am sure that tenured profs are cowering in terror over their job security. It looks like Germany has a Mikovits of their own. Good thing they have their own Fauci too. Of note for those who have posted about Drosten in the past.
Astounding numbers from Australia. I am really curious how much this holds for the N. Hemisphere.
The second chart on page 5 shows that the 10-19 age bracket have the second highest infection incidenceIn Belgium, some figures were just released: in all schoolgoing children, about 0.2% (c. 2200 children) tested covid-positive since the opening of schools after summer (Sept 1). Same percentage of teachers. Face masks not required in kindergarten and primary school (basically 3-11/12 year-olds), but they are mandatory in secondary school (12-17/18 year-olds). Number of total infections in same period (rough calculation) is about 25.000 people. Most still in age groups 18-30 y. For the schools, most problematic schools are in the big cities.
Belgium is carrying out about 30.000 tests/day (population: 11.5 million).
I posted upthread a long time ago a detailed comparison of mortality rates by age for seasonal flu and C19, which shows that at every age C19 has a higher mortality rate.Reiterates that Covid-19 for healthy people under 70 is as dangerous as a seasonal, moderate influenza virus
There is very little evidence that face masks result in health problems, vs. an enormous amount of evidence that they block viral particles.Prof Bhakdi very angry with children & old people wearing face masks from a health & psychological perspective
As Baltimore notes, Peter Duesberg is Exhibit A that you can propose the most outlandish, unsupported ideas, and not have to worry about losing your job. Michael Levitt and Luc Montagnier are two Novel Prize winners who have proposed theories far out of the mainstream, and haven't had any problems. Montagnier has claimed the virus was created in a lab, while Levitt believes the virus stops transmitting more or less spontaneously over time. Stanford's John Ioannidis has argued that the mortality rate is much lower than what the mainstream believes, and he has no problem keeping his job and publishing his work.I would agree with them that there many scientists and professors are afraid to say against Covid for fear of losing their jobs and grants... However, more from European nations seemed to be coming out - people need to hear opposing views from qualified experts.
??? This information is readily available at the CDC website, e.g., https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.htmlthis author has looked for the mortality rate of the coronavirus in America by age and it is very difficult to find. “You won’t be able to find the answer, because you’ll only get an answer if you search the reports from the RKI [Robert Koch Institute] and calculate the number yourself.”
In the first place, a wide variety of approaches are being used to develop vaccines, and not all of them are gene based. Moderna and Imperial are developing mRNA vaccines, also CureVac in Germany, which he may be referring to, but Oxford/AstraZeneca, e.g., is not, unless you count using a viral vector, which is used for many flu vaccines.Doctor Sucharit Bhakdi makes an incredibly powerful statement while explaining that the vaccine being developed “isn’t a normal conventional vaccine, and it’s not like the flu vaccine.” He says that the vaccine is “gene-based,” and the way it works is “still unknown scientifically and medically.” While many people have fought against genetically modified food, the Virologist explains, “we’re [now] talking about a vaccination that genetically manipulates the human body, and apparently these same people have no concerns about it.”
I think I read that this was due to a huge increase in people getting vaccinated against the flu, which reduced the the number of winter respiratory infections, and is thought to have helped lessen the impact of Covid-19.Astounding numbers from Australia. I am really curious how much this holds for the N. Hemisphere.
Figures released yesterday on the where Covid outbreaks were reported in The UK for the previous weekI wonder what is the latest word on the role of schools in the spread of coronavirus. I mean one can make a theoretical argument that actual infections happen outside schools and I have read plenty of those, but that also somewhat undercuts the claims of people from back in the summer that schools are safe to open because actual infection rates in the community were likely at the lowest at that time.
Those numbers look plausible.Figures released yesterday on the where Covid outbreaks were reported in The UK for the previous week
Schools and colleges - 42%
Work - 19%
Care Homes - 25%
Hospitals - 6%
Pubs/restaurants - 3%
Other - 5%
With the caveat that this doesn't tell you where the infection originated, this feels about right in terms of public transmission
The anti vaxxers would call that fake news, lovable group that they are................but it would be interesting to get the vaccination figures as it's also been apparent that many people have been also avoiding hospitals and medical centres but you can also get vaccinated at some pharmacies. One of the things that the medical fraternity have been vocal about is that many people with chronic onditions have been delaying or avoiding treatment during the pandemic. Maybe that is partially a reference to asthmatics and the like.I think I read that this was due to a huge increase in people getting vaccinated against the flu, which reduced the the number of winter respiratory infections, and is thought to have helped lessen the impact of Covid-19.
Certainly in The UK this year, the flu jab is being heavily promoted
This is skewed by the 18-19 year-olds, who were reported to have much higher infection rates then the younger (school-going) teenagers. That's why lumping colleges and schools together is not detailed enough to make conclusions. Much better to look at it in narrower age categories.The second chart on page 5 shows that the 10-19 age bracket have the second highest infection incidence
I wonder how many in the 30-39 and 40-49 bracket are their parents