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We are not even done with Omicron, so I don't see why we are writing its epitaph now. Numbers going up in heavily vaxxed locations where the new subvariant has become dominant. It will be coming to the sunbelt with lower vaccination in the coming months. It is not as severe as delta, but it has been almost as bad because it has infected so many more people. Ultrairon is entirely mistaken. Me and others like jmdirt that have posted about omicron have been vindicated.
Of course, Omicron is not done & we shouldn't be writing it's epitaph. However, don't you think because of the Omicron variant the pandemic has transitioned to the endemic phase? 73% of Americans have immunity to Omicron - (this was from mid-Feb) with 80% estimated by mid-March (probably even higher by now):

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"I am optimistic even if we have a surge in summer, cases will go up, but hospitalizations and deaths will not," Ali Mokdad, a professor of health metric sciences at the University of Washington in Seattle, told the AP."

Where do you disagree with Mokdad's analysis? What do you envision happening this summer & fall? A tremendous surge in cases and subsequent hospitalizations & deaths? A return back to vaccine & mask mandates in the aforementioned cities & counties that just lifted all their mandates? All of this from the Omicron variant or are you concerned about a completely new variant that may be more resilient to vaccine/natural immunity?
 
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EDIT: Would people who choose not to get the vaccine use a nasal spray or would that be a no go too?
I would consider the nasal spray but I would want to see some data on the ingredients & side-effects.
 
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We are not even done with Omicron, so I don't see why we are writing its epitaph now. Numbers going up in heavily vaxxed locations where the new subvariant has become dominant. It will be coming to the sunbelt with lower vaccination in the coming months. It is not as severe as delta, but it has been almost as bad because it has infected so many more people. Ultrairon is entirely mistaken. Me and others like jmdirt that have posted about omicron have been vindicated.

Good to see some admission of omicron not as severe as delta. As for "numbers going up in heavily vaxxed locations", I am struggling to see this when I eyeball Worldometer? The 7 day moving average for daily new cases in the US is now under 24,000. The last time it was so low was your summer last year. Considering we know omicron is far more transmissible that is very telling.

If we look at The 7 day moving average for daily deaths, omicron peaked at 2,700/day in late January 2022 compared to the delta peak of over 3,500/day one year earlier - nearly a 25% fall, despite the massive and unprecedented spike in daily cases.
 
Good to see some admission of omicron not as severe as delta. As for "numbers going up in heavily vaxxed locations", I am struggling to see this when I eyeball Worldometer? The 7 day moving average for daily new cases in the US is now under 24,000. The last time it was so low was your summer last year. Considering we know omicron is far more transmissible that is very telling.

If we look at The 7 day moving average for daily deaths, omicron peaked at 2,700/day in late January 2022 compared to the delta peak of over 3,500/day one year earlier - nearly a 25% fall, despite the massive and unprecedented spike in daily cases.
The peak in January 2021 wasn't delta. It was mostly OG covid with a bit of alpha. Delta didn't hit the US until the summer months of 2021. The Jan 2021 peak was our worst because few were vaccinated at that point.

The country total doesn't tell you much about local spread. Geography varies a lot but NY and MA are highly vaxxed and trending in the wrong direction.

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/BioTurboNick/status/1510896011115442180

Of course, Omicron is not done & we shouldn't be writing it's epitaph. However, don't you think because of the Omicron variant the pandemic has transitioned to the endemic phase? 73% of Americans have immunity to Omicron - (this was from mid-Feb) with 80% estimated by mid-March (probably even higher by now):

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"I am optimistic even if we have a surge in summer, cases will go up, but hospitalizations and deaths will not," Ali Mokdad, a professor of health metric sciences at the University of Washington in Seattle, told the AP."

Where do you disagree with Mokdad's analysis? What do you envision happening this summer & fall? A tremendous surge in cases and subsequent hospitalizations & deaths? A return back to vaccine & mask mandates in the aforementioned cities & counties that just lifted all their mandates? All of this from the Omicron variant or are you concerned about a completely new variant that may be more resilient to vaccine/natural immunity?
Yes, mostly agree with both points. Almost everybody here is vaxxed or been infected according to data that I have seen, so it is endemic by the popular definition of the term. And, omicron shouldn't cause really serious outbreaks here even if the case numbers will inevitably rise. But even a few hundred deaths a day will add up. Better than it was though, so consider that my ounce of positivity.
 
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We are not even done with Omicron, so I don't see why we are writing its epitaph now. Numbers going up in heavily vaxxed locations where the new subvariant has become dominant. It will be coming to the sunbelt with lower vaccination in the coming months. It is not as severe as delta, but it has been almost as bad because it has infected so many more people. Ultrairon is entirely mistaken. Me and others like jmdirt that have posted about omicron have been vindicated.
numbers are still down and trending the same.

 

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Vaccine cocktail................
When the numbers for the country starts to reverse like many states have, will you stop posting?
If the number reverse I will still post. I will be sad, but will not think its a pandemic. Pandemic is over. Covid is here to stay , cases will go up and down in a cycle.
 

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The peak in January 2021 wasn't delta. It was mostly OG covid with a bit of alpha. Delta didn't hit the US until the summer months of 2021. The Jan 2021 peak was our worst because few were vaccinated at that point.

The country total doesn't tell you much about local spread. Geography varies a lot but NY and MA are highly vaxxed and trending in the wrong direction.

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/BioTurboNick/status/1510896011115442180


Yes, mostly agree with both points. Almost everybody here is vaxxed or been infected according to data that I have seen, so it is endemic by the popular definition of the term. And, omicron shouldn't cause really serious outbreaks here even if the case numbers will inevitably rise. But even a few hundred deaths a day will add up. Better than it was though, so consider that my ounce of positivity.
Can you site the source of the data for this twitter Dr (phd) you posted?
I see a slight increase for NY on the CDC site but most if not all the sates on the twitter Dr's post shows only a slight increase. I think we need another week or two to see where that trend goes. This turbonick is playing loose with his ups and downs.
 
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Can you site the source of the data for this twitter Dr (phd) you posted?
I see a slight increase for NY on the CDC site but most if not all the sates on the twitter Dr's post shows only a slight increase. I think we need another week or two to see where that trend goes. This turbonick is playing loose with his ups and downs.
You are answering your own questions. An increase is an increase. And these increases are corresponding with wastewater data showing increased infection.
 

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C-D-C. Maybe you have heard of it.


You are probably just confused. Link?
No where in that original Tweet does it give credit to a source for the data. Link to where they give the CDC credit for the data they are claiming? I checked again and twitter Dr. does not do it in the original tweet you posted. Later they do some graphing but unless its a authorized CDC Powerbi report I am not going to be fooled by some twitter Dr's made up graphs.

I'm not confused. Dr. Television more than once discounted prior infection. Its still not recognized in the USA as it is in Europe other countries.
 
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No where in that original Tweet does it give credit to a source for the data. Link to where they give the CDC credit for the data they are claiming? I checked again and twitter Dr. does not do it in the original tweet you posted. Later they do some graphing but unless its a authorized CDC Powerbi report I am not going to be fooled by some twitter Dr's made up graphs.

I'm not confused. Dr. Television more than once discounted prior infection. Its still not recognized in the USA as it is in Europe other countries.
I almost enjoy the long term analysis you quote that seems to exclude any emerging and acknowledged knowledge of a 2+ year pandemic.
You and your favorite opponent and TV Doctor should get into a debate cage with the other Kintucky "Dr" that loves to second guess historic response when he's in front of a camera, too. He can check your vision, then check his credentials at the door prior to the debate. He brings sh*t of reality to the discussion.
Good luck at the debate.