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Google translate from a Belgian newspaper article from today about the role of children in the spread of corona:


Children are not the driving force behind the Covid-19 outbreak. Several new studies now give hints as to why: children are less at risk of infection than an adult when they come into contact with a patient. And if they do have the virus, they are probably less likely to transmit it than adults.

How come so few children end up in the covid-19 statistics as "confirmed cases"? Because proportionally fewer children become infected? Or because they have no symptoms more often than adults and are therefore tested less? Are infected children who do not show any signs of disease, who are apparently healthy, 'silent' spreaders of the virus?

The importance of the answers to these questions can hardly be overestimated. Because they determine how 'risky' the contacts at school and in the crèches are to get the epidemic on the rise again - and how much parents should be concerned if their children return to school or daycare.

Experts have long suspected that the children are not the motor of the Covid-19 epidemic ( DS 24 April ). Multiple studies that have appeared in recent days now provide pieces to puzzle to the role of children in this epidemic.

Obervation 1 : Children, contrary to previous hypotheses, have a significantly lower risk than adults of becoming infected upon contact with a covid-19 patient. Obervation 2 : When children carry the Sars-CoV-2 virus, they have as much virus in their throat as an adult with the virus (whether they have symptoms or not). Obervation 3 : in practice, children and young people with the virus rarely infect others, possibly because they cough less (for example, less often 'expel' the virus with full force).

The great fear of epidemiologists, parents and teachers is that children form 'bridges of contamination' between families or between home and school. The Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) provides additional evidence that children are not often the 'importers' of the virus in their families (in comparison: children are very often with the flu). RIVM conducted contact investigations at the beginning of the epidemic , in which the contacts of confirmed cases were identified and investigated. In minors with the sars-CoV-2 virus whose contacts were then mapped, the researchers found no new infections that would have caused the child or young person.

In general, according to the analysis of 'contamination flocks' by the RIVM, most infections occur among people between 40 and 80 years old.

The elderly are most at risk

A brand new study in the top journal Science could provide an explanation for this, and this through a particularly ingenious statistical analysis. In that investigation, all close contacts of confirmed cases in Wuhan and Shanghai were examined. Those close contacts were followed by the Chinese government for two weeks, including with virus tests.

Researchers divided the contacts of the confirmed cases into three age categories: children (0-14 years), adults (15-64 years) and the elderly (people over 65). The children who had come into contact with a confirmed case were found to be much less likely to become infected themselves than the adults. The risk of the children was only one third of the risk of adult contacts. The over-65s were most likely to become infected upon contact with a covid-19 patient: 50 percent more than the 15- to 64-year-olds.

Virus in the throat

All this naturally raises the question of what goes differently in the body of children than in adults. The last word has probably not yet been said about this. An interesting addition was made on Thursday by the German virologist Christian Drosten, professor at the Berlin university center Charité. His research group finds on the basis of the throat swabs of confirmed cases that children have as many virus particles in the throat as adults. It does not matter whether or not the children have symptoms. Drosten concludes that children could be equally contagious.

That conditional form is important, because in practice it looks different. Pierre Van Damme, professor of epidemiology at UAntwerp, explains how this could be done. “We now know that children are less likely to get an infection when exposed, and we knew that children with sars-CoV-2 are less likely to have symptoms than adults. The symptoms such as coughing probably play a very important role in the spread of the virus. So even though children have as much virus in their throat as adults, the virus must spread in their environment. Add to that that children also have a smaller lung volume. Their drops of virus will get less far than those of adults. "

Schools

Van Damme attaches great importance to the studies carried out in households in the Netherlands and other countries. 'Nowhere do you have closer contact between people than within the family. This shows that children do not infect adults as often. This can reassure teachers who have less close contact with the children than parents with their children if they have to teach again soon. Parents who send their children back to school and who may fear becoming infected through their children can also be reassured. ”

In the Science paper, the researchers calculated that closing schools alone cannot bring the corona epidemic to a halt. The closure of schools may reduce the peak, but social distancing remains the most important measure.

Can't all children suddenly go to school again? Van Damme: 'What we do now is the right strategy, because we must not forget the additional contacts outside the classroom. Think of the parents who meet again at the school gate. Close contact between adults is indeed a risk . "
 
In the Science paper, the researchers calculated that closing schools alone cannot bring the corona epidemic to a halt. The closure of schools may reduce the peak, but social distancing remains the most important measure.

Can't all children suddenly go to school again? Van Damme: 'What we do now is the right strategy, because we must not forget the additional contacts outside the classroom. Think of the parents who meet again at the school gate. Close contact between adults is indeed a risk . "

there's a fairly easy way to find out, isn't there?! Just try it in one part of the country for a start, and monitor it closely.
 
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Actually I'm not comfortable with the way that children are seen by virologists and therefore politicians, too. Only as possible or not-possible transmitters. Of course this is a major question. But children are also possible patients, vulnerable people themselves. Obviously the risk for them is way lower. But still, to treat them as guinea pigs because of that, I don't really like that. Either societies say they can't bring life to a complete halt or they decide that every harsh measure has to be taken. If they go for the second option they should treat children with care (and look at them as humans), too. In the debates at least in Germany I feel they are regarded as some kind of lifeless pieces that you just place here or there.
 
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They are already used as guinea pigs. No-one knows what the impact of keeping them away from their friends for so long, even from going outside, is. No-one knows what the effect of being locked in with stressed parents, potentially abusive parents, is. No-one knows what the effects are of distant learning, whether they do not create more inequality between children. I'm quite sure that the risk of them getting seriously affected by covid-19 is lower than the risk they run everyday when just going to school (mostly because of traffic accidents). Allowing them to go back to school is - in my eyes - the right thing to do.
 
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They are already used as guinea pigs. No-one knows what the impact of keeping them away from their friends for so long, even from going outside, is. No-one knows what the effect of being locked in with stressed parents, potentially abusive parents, is. No-one knows what the effects are of distant learning, whether they do not create more inequality between children. I'm quite sure that the risk of them getting seriously affected by covid-19 is lower than the risk they run everyday when just going to school (mostly because of traffic accidents). Allowing them to go back to school is - in my eyes - the right thing to do.
There are teachers in Denver publicly saying that as little as 50 percent of students are participating in online school each day. One teacher claimed she has contact with 91 students and only 21 have checked in online.

Also sounds like they are not going to be allowed to fail anyone.
 
Can't all children suddenly go to school again? Van Damme: 'What we do now is the right strategy, because we must not forget the additional contacts outside the classroom. Think of the parents who meet again at the school gate. Close contact between adults is indeed a risk . "

Someone should point out to Professor Pierre Van Damme that there is no evidence in Australia that the virus spread from parents dropping kids at school. What we need to recognise there is no such thing as eliminating the risk of transmission 100%. But once the new infection rate falls below a threshold it can be controlled providing new sources of infection are not imported via borders. Whilst I respect their area of research, a few epidemiologists like Van Damme would do well to recognise factors like the economy, education and mental health. These need to be balanced whilst we all wait for a vaccine. Young childrens' education suffers when they are left at home. Particularly if their parents work so don't have the time to supervise them.

I am glad you mention above that allowing them to go back to school is - in my eyes - the right thing to do. Agree 100%. Sadly in my country we have teachers unions dragging their heels. As usual kids education comes last.
 
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They are already used as guinea pigs. No-one knows what the impact of keeping them away from their friends for so long, even from going outside, is. No-one knows what the effect of being locked in with stressed parents, potentially abusive parents, is. No-one knows what the effects are of distant learning, whether they do not create more inequality between children. I'm quite sure that the risk of them getting seriously affected by covid-19 is lower than the risk they run everyday when just going to school (mostly because of traffic accidents). Allowing them to go back to school is - in my eyes - the right thing to do.

I did not mean to say that's the wrong approach. I don't have a specific opinion on that. (I am worried about the abuse as well, but I'm also sceptical and disenchanted as to whether school detects this and helps.)
The way that home-schooling is done at my son's school I'm not too worried about inequality. I doubt anyone will learn a lot during this time like this... :eek: Okay, bad joke.
What I meant are the language and the thoughts that are centered around how to use children and teenagers best for the "real" society.
 
It's a tough situation. Again, it's easy for people who have not been ruined financially to wag their finger at those who have or are about to be. With as much mis-information that there is it's no wonder people who are circling the financially are not willing to sit idly by and watch their life's work be ordered shut.
I think that you should quote my entire post because I started out by saying that:

"I've wondered, said, and typed similar many times. Admittedly, I have not had to make the sacrifices that many have so its easier for me to protect myself and others, but I am disappointed in many people who aren't willing to sacrifice for others. Some people can't even inconvenience themselves to do something as simple as wearing a mask at the supermarket.

Also, when they open do they expect to have mobs of people? I wonder if they will even have enough customers to make it worth opening.

Hopefully they don't have physical/violent actions in mind to defend their rights. Do they mean their rights to help spread C19?;) "

Plus, does ruined financially mean that they should no longer respect their fellow human, let a lone follow basic laws?
 
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They are already used as guinea pigs. No-one knows what the impact of keeping them away from their friends for so long, even from going outside, is. No-one knows what the effect of being locked in with stressed parents, potentially abusive parents, is. No-one knows what the effects are of distant learning, whether they do not create more inequality between children. I'm quite sure that the risk of them getting seriously affected by covid-19 is lower than the risk they run everyday when just going to school (mostly because of traffic accidents). Allowing them to go back to school is - in my eyes - the right thing to do.

It's not a great situation for anyone, kids or parents. I think we know it's not great, but kids are resilient. They have to go back at some point, but I'm less concerned about those things than I am about kids getting horribly ill or spreading it to at-risk relatives, as would be the case in my family.

I think we'll see a lot of parents not putting their kids back in school when it does open.

There are teachers in Denver publicly saying that as little as 50 percent of students are participating in online school each day. One teacher claimed she has contact with 91 students and only 21 have checked in online.

Also sounds like they are not going to be allowed to fail anyone.

This is nothing like what we're seeing here. I don't think anecdotes are the way to understand if this is a problem, I wonder if there is any broad study of this issue out there. For our kids in this area t's definitely not real school, and they're definitely not learning as much, but in our area the kids are there every day and doing the work asked for the most part. With some hounding but what's new about that, eh...

The kids are definitely having a hard time getting motivated, but my wife, my colleagues and I are all feeling that as well.
 
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I don't think we are too far away from a show-down of sorts in California. Newsom is set to order all beaches, public parks and trails closed starting on May 1.

Watch the defiance. My feeling is Newsom dog-whistled those who are done with following the shelter-in-place orders... and there are a lot.

This is not political and should not be taken as such.
My understanding is that people aren't being smart so they have to close things where people are gathering. If that is the case, they brought it on themselves (but I could be wrong).

Obviously there are exceptions, but the people in the foothills here are being smart about keeping space etc. so the trails have been open in the various layers of closing. Bike parks, skate parks, and tennis (pickleball) courts (mostly from skaters going to them after the park closures) got closed because people were not being smart.
 

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I think we'll see a lot of parents not putting their kids back in school when it does open.

This is nothing like what we're seeing here. I don't think anecdotes are the way to understand if this is a problem, I wonder if there is any broad study of this issue out there. For our kids in this area t's definitely not real school, and they're definitely not learning as much, but in our area the kids are there every day and doing the work asked for the most part. With some hounding but what's new about that, eh...

My neighbor pays $30k / year to send two kids to grade school. He is trying to convince his kids it will be too dangerous to go back!

Edit:. $30k per child!

On a serious note. If there were a nation wide study on participation rates, I bet we would see a huge divide between urban and suburban areas. It appears that here in Boulder the kids are are almost unanimously participating. Neighbor's kids spend a couple hours a day doing group work through zoom meetings which allows them to interact with friends. They love it.
 
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Google translate from a Belgian newspaper article from today about the role of children in the spread of corona:


Children are not the driving force behind the Covid-19 outbreak. Several new studies now give hints as to why: children are less at risk of infection than an adult when they come into contact with a patient. And if they do have the virus, they are probably less likely to transmit it than adults.

How come so few children end up in the covid-19 statistics as "confirmed cases"? Because proportionally fewer children become infected? Or because they have no symptoms more often than adults and are therefore tested less? Are infected children who do not show any signs of disease, who are apparently healthy, 'silent' spreaders of the virus?

The importance of the answers to these questions can hardly be overestimated. Because they determine how 'risky' the contacts at school and in the crèches are to get the epidemic on the rise again - and how much parents should be concerned if their children return to school or daycare.

Experts have long suspected that the children are not the motor of the Covid-19 epidemic ( DS 24 April ). Multiple studies that have appeared in recent days now provide pieces to puzzle to the role of children in this epidemic.

Obervation 1 : Children, contrary to previous hypotheses, have a significantly lower risk than adults of becoming infected upon contact with a covid-19 patient. Obervation 2 : When children carry the Sars-CoV-2 virus, they have as much virus in their throat as an adult with the virus (whether they have symptoms or not). Obervation 3 : in practice, children and young people with the virus rarely infect others, possibly because they cough less (for example, less often 'expel' the virus with full force).

The great fear of epidemiologists, parents and teachers is that children form 'bridges of contamination' between families or between home and school. The Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) provides additional evidence that children are not often the 'importers' of the virus in their families (in comparison: children are very often with the flu). RIVM conducted contact investigations at the beginning of the epidemic , in which the contacts of confirmed cases were identified and investigated. In minors with the sars-CoV-2 virus whose contacts were then mapped, the researchers found no new infections that would have caused the child or young person.

In general, according to the analysis of 'contamination flocks' by the RIVM, most infections occur among people between 40 and 80 years old.

The elderly are most at risk

A brand new study in the top journal Science could provide an explanation for this, and this through a particularly ingenious statistical analysis. In that investigation, all close contacts of confirmed cases in Wuhan and Shanghai were examined. Those close contacts were followed by the Chinese government for two weeks, including with virus tests.

Researchers divided the contacts of the confirmed cases into three age categories: children (0-14 years), adults (15-64 years) and the elderly (people over 65). The children who had come into contact with a confirmed case were found to be much less likely to become infected themselves than the adults. The risk of the children was only one third of the risk of adult contacts. The over-65s were most likely to become infected upon contact with a covid-19 patient: 50 percent more than the 15- to 64-year-olds.

Virus in the throat

All this naturally raises the question of what goes differently in the body of children than in adults. The last word has probably not yet been said about this. An interesting addition was made on Thursday by the German virologist Christian Drosten, professor at the Berlin university center Charité. His research group finds on the basis of the throat swabs of confirmed cases that children have as many virus particles in the throat as adults. It does not matter whether or not the children have symptoms. Drosten concludes that children could be equally contagious.

That conditional form is important, because in practice it looks different. Pierre Van Damme, professor of epidemiology at UAntwerp, explains how this could be done. “We now know that children are less likely to get an infection when exposed, and we knew that children with sars-CoV-2 are less likely to have symptoms than adults. The symptoms such as coughing probably play a very important role in the spread of the virus. So even though children have as much virus in their throat as adults, the virus must spread in their environment. Add to that that children also have a smaller lung volume. Their drops of virus will get less far than those of adults. "

Schools

Van Damme attaches great importance to the studies carried out in households in the Netherlands and other countries. 'Nowhere do you have closer contact between people than within the family. This shows that children do not infect adults as often. This can reassure teachers who have less close contact with the children than parents with their children if they have to teach again soon. Parents who send their children back to school and who may fear becoming infected through their children can also be reassured. ”

In the Science paper, the researchers calculated that closing schools alone cannot bring the corona epidemic to a halt. The closure of schools may reduce the peak, but social distancing remains the most important measure.

Can't all children suddenly go to school again? Van Damme: 'What we do now is the right strategy, because we must not forget the additional contacts outside the classroom. Think of the parents who meet again at the school gate. Close contact between adults is indeed a risk . "
I'm not sure if this is the same report we discussed earlier, but as I said then, getting kids SAFELY back to school is an important step in getting parents back to (productive) work. But just as important is assuring the SAFETY of the kids' teachers (as well as other school employees), and families so statements like: "Drosten concludes that children could be equally contagious." leave enough doubt for me to encourage holding off for a while (more time to research). IMO there is no further academician harm in USA schools not returning until August (I know, what about HS seniors...).
 
Back on the gallery owners: will they sell a lot of art? Napa Valley relies heavily on tourism, are there any tourists there now? People are probably financially cautious so will they be buying art? The wineries probably aren't redecorating now. I can understand why www sales wouldn't be a big source of sales because I can't imagine buying art without actually seeing it. I do feel for them, but I don't think that making a stand is going to bring them enough income to be worth it.

I feel this way about a lot of businesses that are pushing to open, will they even break even?
 
My neighbor pays $30k / year to send two kids to grade school. He is trying to convince his kids it will be too dangerous to go back!

Edit:. $30k per child!

On a serious note. If there were a nation wide study on participation rates, I bet we would see a huge divide between urban and suburban areas. It appears that here in Boulder the kids are are almost unanimously participating. Neighbor's kids spend a couple hours a day doing group work through zoom meetings which allows them to interact with friends. They love it.

That is just nutty, but maybe I pay more than that to live in an area where I don't have to send kids to private school!

I think you're probably right about the divide, I would love to see if that hypothesis is true.
 

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That is just nutty, but maybe I pay more than that to live in an area where I don't have to send kids to private school!

I think you're probably right about the divide, I would love to see if that hypothesis is true.
We have great schools in Boulder. He still pays it! It is one of the better K-12 schools in the US though. Great cycling program also. The Dawson School. They even have their own cyclocross course on campus.
 
Here’s the Danish Ab study:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075291v1.full.pdf

The authors claimed a very high specificity, i.e., a false positive rate of about 0.5%. That would still be a significant fraction of the total positives found, 1.8%, but that was compensated for by a relatively low sensitivity, i.e., about 18% false negatives. After correcting for both, the authors calculated a seroprevalence of 1.7%.

The blood donor group they studied was age 17-69. I couldn’t actually find in the paper an estimate of what proportion of the population that comprises, but from a little research, I came up with about 3.73 million people. Using their adjusted seroprevalence of 1.7%, one gets about 63,400 people. This would be the total number of Danes in the population with antibodies, assuming an unbiassed sample. At the time at which this study was carried out, according to the authors, 53 Danes under 70 years old had died from C19. This gives a prevalence of .0835%, close to the authors’ .082%. The discrepancy is fully accounted for by my rough estimate of the number of people aged 17-69.

We can compare this to the NYC data. The mortality rate for aged 18-64 was 0.25%, about three times higher than the Danish rate. However, the small numbers involved mean a high degree of uncertainty. Also, the authors of the Danish study note that the rate in Copenhagen was higher than in the other areas tested, perhaps around .15%. (I'm estimating this from the numbers they actually provide; this assumes that deaths per population unit are the same in and outside of Copenhagen).

Finally, the ratio of the number of individuals with Abs to confirmed cases was reported to be 21. This suggests that about 95% of the positives could have been asymptomatic (or people with symptoms sufficiently mild that they didn't see the need to get tested). As always, though, there are legitimate questions about selection bias.
 
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It's not a great situation for anyone, kids or parents. I think we know it's not great, but kids are resilient. They have to go back at some point, but I'm less concerned about those things than I am about kids getting horribly ill or spreading it to at-risk relatives, as would be the case in my family.

I think we'll see a lot of parents not putting their kids back in school when it does open.

(...)

This is nothing like what we're seeing here. I don't think anecdotes are the way to understand if this is a problem, I wonder if there is any broad study of this issue out there. For our kids in this area t's definitely not real school, and they're definitely not learning as much, but in our area the kids are there every day and doing the work asked for the most part. With some hounding but what's new about that, eh...

The kids are definitely having a hard time getting motivated, but my wife, my colleagues and I are all feeling that as well.
The fatalities among children amount to about zero worldwide. They run much more risk from going to school on any normal day. The risk of infecting relatives, that's another matter, but then the people who keep their children at home out of fear should also refrain from going to their own working place.

Children are resilient, we assume. But specialists think that the teaching efficiency now differs a lot based on the home situation. The ones with parents willing or able to spend time vs. the ones with uninterested parents, parents who are too busy, or parents who are unable to truly help (for example because they are uneducated themselves, speak another language, etc.). Also, not every child has access to a computer or tablet for their e-homework (think of big families for instance). These create differences among pupils that often exacerbate differences that are already there. In time, this is thought to create more learning backlog for children that were already struggling to keep up.
 
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Americans who object to the lockdowns might want to move to Sweden:

When I flew into Sweden earlier this month from Los Angeles…it was like arriving in an alternate universe. No screening of any kind took place. There were no pamphlets about COVID-19 precautions. It was like COVID-19 had never left Wuhan, China…Cafés were full to the brim, and people were picnicking in parks, on the same blanket. And within the first few hours back in Stockholm, I saw more handshakes and hugs in public than I had seen in two months in Los Angeles, where I had seen none.

One might also get an idea of what's in store in the U.S. if the economy is opened up too soon:

Sweden’s per capita death rate is now among the highest in the world, above the United States and nearly six times as high as some of our Scandinavian neighbors.

State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has been one of the loudest and most trusted voices among the country’s pandemic response team…

“I think to great parts we have been able to achieve what we set out to achieve,” Tegnell recently told the BBC. “What has not worked out very well is our death toll, and that’s very much—I mean, it’s partly due to the strategy, but not really very much. It’s mainly due to that our homes for elderly have not been able to keep the disease out.”

i wonder why that is.

Another prominent public voice has been Johan Giesecke, previously at the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, currently an adviser to the Swedish public health agency. Giesecke’s hot takes about the Swedish model border on the absurd, with his interviews sprinkled with quotes like “I’ve got a gut feeling about this” and “Every other country is wrong.” Swedes in general don’t seem troubled by this nonsense; both Tegnell and Giesecke have become very popular.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/sweden-coronavirus-response-death-social-distancing.html

Tegnell is also predicting that Stockholm will achieve herd immunity sometime in May, Let’s see how that works out.
 
Americans who object to the lockdowns might want to move to Sweden:



One might also get an idea of what's in store in the U.S. if the economy is opened up too soon:





i wonder why that is.



https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/sweden-coronavirus-response-death-social-distancing.html

Tegnell is also predicting that Stockholm will achieve herd immunity sometime in May, Let’s see how that works out.

Ah, Sweden... To sum it up, what happens there, in my humble opinion is cynical. Let them die, only 1% of those infected even less maybe. Why must 99% suffer the awful fate of not being able to drink a beer with friends in a pub, stay locked in their homes watching Netflix and overeating, suffer the consequences of diminishing incomes (as if Sweden's economy is living in a bubble and not interconnected with the world)? Whatever they tell and whatever scientific reasoning that's exactly the outcome. Just a quick comparison, Czechia and Sweden, same population, one country did what it had to do to limit as much as possible the loss of lives, the other listened to Tegnell. Who did better? One with 7,689 cases with 237 deaths, the other 21,092 cases with 2,586 deaths, guess the correct answer.
 
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A (translated) newspaper article on the influence of obesity:
(list of BMI/country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index)

When the abdominal circumference worsens corona
The new coronavirus has an extra heavy effect on obese patients. They do not even have to be at an advanced age for this.

BRUSSELS He noticed it at the start of the epidemic, says Philippe Meersseman, intensivist and pneumologist at UZ Leuven: patients with covid-19 lung disease in the department intensive care are almost without exception large patients. "Almost all of them are overweight. Often they are still young people, only between forty and sixty years old, without any other striking characteristic than that they are overweight. '

Colleagues in other hospitals confirm this. Several international studies have out out that it is not about anecdotal observations, but the same trend is emerging worldwide: Obesity increases the risk significantly for patients in intensive care end up there need to be ventilated.

Link to BMI
For example, obesity was the greatest common denominator among 180 hospitalized adults aged 18 to 64 years old in the US, according to an inventory by the Centers for Disease Control for March. And in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases , American doctors report that New York patients, under the age of sixty, are twice as likely to require intensive care as peers without morbid obesity, and three times more likely to die of the disease. These effects do not play a role in patients over the age of 60.

Finally, French doctors report in the journal Obesity that the chance of ending up with artificial respiration in hospital with covid-19 goes hand in hand with the body mass index, BMI. That is a measure of the relationship between body weight and height. (BMI is calculated by dividing body weight, in kilograms, by the square of body height, in meters.)
Of the 124 corona patients admitted to the intensive care unit at Lille University Hospital, nearly three-quarters were obese (BMI between 30 and 40), the French write. Of the 85 patients requiring mechanical ventilation, nearly 9 in 10 had a BMI of 35 or more.

No such analyzes have yet been published for Belgium, but in Gasthuisberg three-quarters of the corona patients admitted to the intensive care unit were overweight, Meersseman records his notes: a BMI of 29 on average. The corona 85 patients who were mechanically ventilated in hospital in Lille, nearly 9 in 10 had a BMI of 35 or more
The Sciensano figures of all Belgian hospital confirm recordings 'Being overweight and a more severe course of a coronavirus infection go hand in hand. People with morbid obesity (BMI> 40, ed.) Are especially vulnerable. '

Prediabetic condition
Van Gucht points out as an explanation that people with over weight often have other physical complaints, such as diabetes and hypertension. These are known risk factors for a more serious course. However, even without such parallel diseases remains on the relationship between weight and severe covid-19 upright, pointing the studies.

In addition to old age and pre-existing conditions such as heart disease and diabetes, obesity is therefore a new indicator of a possible severe course of the disease. Meersseman sees several explanations. 'The new coronavirus easily infects adipose tissue cells in addition to airway cells. Obese people will therefore respond to it with a heavier inflammatory response virus. It is precisely this response that makes them end up with intensive care. In addition, overweight people are sometimes in some sort of prediabetic condition. Even if they do not yet have physical complaints of diabetes, their smaller blood vessels can already show some damage and are more prone to clot formation. It is these small blood clots that contribute to a higher mortality risk of Covid-19. "

In addition, obese people are often short of breath, Meersseman explains. "They have more fat in their chest and around their lungs. Breathing takes more effort as a result, and it becomes even heavier when there is an infection on the lungs. If we obese patients need artificial respiration, their weight puts them at a disadvantage again. We have to then exert greater pressure. The disadvantage of this is that it can additionally damage the lungs. '
 
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