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jaylew said:
Honestly, I partially picked him because I've been a fan of his for a while and I was thrilled to see him back on a big team. I did think he'd have a good year but frankly his cost is high (532) and there's still a good chance he won't turn out to be a good buy, though things are looking good with his start (259 so far).
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Same. Ventoso was a 'personal' pick for me. Not too cheap but does have the potential for a big season. If I realised he came 2nd in the Spanish Nats, I may not have picked him because that'd have inflated his score.
 
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Haussler's points don't really matter, but at least Boonen isn't catching me out now.

Meanwhile, the Langeveld investment continues to pay dividends. 3rd day in a row of 60 odd points, w00t.
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Whoever wins, will have Haussler, so I'd say he's pretty important.
 
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Tuarts said:
Whoever wins, will have Haussler, so I'd say he's pretty important.
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I think you're missing the point - precisely because whoever wins will have him, he is irrelevant.

By being the most selected rider in the game, he becomes the least important. Everytime someone celebrates winning points with him, they seem to forget that 7 out of 8 other teams also pick up the points, so his results have very little ability to differentiate teams.

Of course it is important to have him, given what value he is, but as nearly everyone does, provided you aren't one of the misguided souls who missed him, he's an irrelevance now.

For example - I also have Renshaw, and am now very happy the order has switched in Qatar - I get the same number of points, whilst lots of others get fewer.
 
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Oh, he wont decide who wins, I know that, but not having him is like some of the hill stages in a GT. You wont win a GT on them, but you can lose one.
 
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Ya, this week was good for those with Renshaw. I wonder if he would have gotten this opportunity of Cavendish hadn't fallen during the prologue.

Guardini is certainly one of the buys of the year. I was a little unsure of his potential against better sprinters given the relatively poor field in Langkawi but he showed today that he has a really strong kick and he will probably feature in a lot of sprints throughout the year.

Does anyone know how he is at getting over hills? Langkawi is usually a little bunpy isn't it? He does seem to have some problems with crosswinds however since he has missed all the top echelons this week.
 
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Credit to Waterloo Sunreise where its due.

He has a good team of not too many popular picks and one of them is Guardinini

Credit to the other 3 with Guardini too, but im less concerned about them as 2 had Ricco and 1 missed Haussler.

With Renshaw, Guardini and Matthews hes already got himself a good ammount of points.

AND he has a very very good team.

I console myself with the fact that the "second tier sprinters" season is coming to an end for now and together theyve only improved a few hundred points on previous totals.

So far anyway.

WS has gone for a lot less conventional picks. While its possible that many of them will have average seasons, there is a lot of potential for big points there, so that would be very impressive if it succeeds.

But anyway, well done to WS
 
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Ferminal said:
Renshaw is a good pick.

Even if he doesn't have an extraordinary season this year, he will still double his points. He didn't finish any GTs last season.

I don't rate him, but even if he performs as I expect, he would have been a good pick.
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Ya, the problem with Renshaw was always going to be whether he was going to get chances to ride for himself more and now he did get that chance and took full advantage of it. We'll see if he gets any more chances this year though. I still think he's the 4th or 5th choice when it comes to sprints in HTC.
 
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I'm disappointed overall with how my second/third tier sprinters have done so far. Chicchi, Ciolek, Steegmans, Bos and Keukeleire have given me very little overall so far.

Going as heavy as I did on that type of rider really hasn't worked at all so far. My only real "hits" to date are Haussler, Swift and Hermans... but everyone has Haussler.
 
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I haven't had much success yet, but I've hardly included any real sprinters in my team. I'll hopefully pick up loads of points in the classics and Spanish/Italian stage races. I do have Ricco though :(

Haussler, Oss & Gerrans are my top scorers so far.

Will be hoping for a Laurent Didier surprise on Mont Faron!
 
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ingsve said:
I'm quite happy with my week so far as well. I got a 2nd place with Duran which is a pick I'm alone with and I also have Viviani that won another 80 point race today and there is a chance he will win another one on sunday in Tour of Mumbai II.
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Viviani looking like he will be a good buy. Him getting 80 (and possibly 160) points at Mumbai is like taking candy from a baby. Meanwhile, Guardini only scored 20 for his win today against the top guys.

I've scored just shy of 400 pts this week which seems good, but 142 of it was from Haussler and I lost Ricco so not such a good week after all.
 
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My logic on getting Renshaw, which proved to be correct so far:

I assumed HTC are that good a sprinting team that they would still all the points and wins in 2nd tier race even without Greipel. The only two people that could fill Greipel's role would be Goss or Renshaw. Assuming the new second tier HTC sprinter would get approx the same points, that is 1500 up for grabs. Goss costed 634 and Renshaw 106, added together it's still half that of HTC's Greipel points. So you're bound to profit.

As it stands today, Goss is 414 and Renshaw is 156, two weeks into the season.
 
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jaylew said:
Viviani looking like he will be a good buy. Him getting 80 (and possibly 160) points at Mumbai is like taking candy from a baby. Meanwhile, Guardini only scored 20 for his win today against the top guys.

I've scored just shy of 400 pts this week which seems good, but 142 of it was from Haussler and I lost Ricco so not such a good week after all.
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Ya, I've score 423 points so far this week with a chance of over 500 if Viviani wins again.
 
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bicing said:
My logic on getting Renshaw, which proved to be correct so far:

I assumed HTC are that good a sprinting team that they would still all the points and wins in 2nd tier race even without Greipel. The only two people that could fill Greipel's role would be Goss or Renshaw. Assuming the new second tier HTC sprinter would get approx the same points, that is 1500 up for grabs. Goss costed 634 and Renshaw 106, added together it's still half that of HTC's Greipel points. So you're bound to profit.

As it stands today, Goss is 414 and Renshaw is 156, two weeks into the season.
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I agree to a certain point. You're right that HTC would need someone to fill Greipel's role in various races and Goss is the obvious choice. However, I'm not sure I agree on Renshaw. For HTC the main objective is to get Cavendish to win races and he does that far better with Renshaw as his leadout man, so based on this, I don't think they want to jeopardize (how the hell is that spelled?) that just so Renshaw can get his own chance. I think him getting a chance to prove him self in the Tour of Qatar was only because Cavendish crashed.

Besides HTC do have some other riders capable of filling Greipel's shoes (well atleast get the chance to do so), with Howard being the obvious pick - HTC even said themselves that Howard was first in line to replace Greipel, and Degenkolb and Rasmussen are also capable of getting some good results.

I don't think Renshaw is a bad pick - quite the opposite actually - but I just wanted to add that HTC do have other replacements for Greipel :)
 
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Besides HTC do have some other riders capable of filling Greipel's shoes (well atleast get the chance to do so), with Howard being the obvious pick - HTC even said themselves that Howard was first in line to replace Greipel, and Degenkolb and Rasmussen are also capable of getting some good results.
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Howard another years for track worlds. it is not good for him to build form, though i wish he could have dedicated himself to road.
 
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