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Here is my team.

Igor Anton (952pts): - Will be the leader at the Giro and possibly the Vuelta. Should double his points this year if he stays injury free.

Ricardo Ricco (756pts)- Will find a lot of races this year. Paris Nice is a race he could very well win, he will do the Giro etc.

Richie Porte (733pts) - Will lead the team at smaller stage races and the Tour de France.

Bauke Mollema (524pts) - Young guy with a big future. Hopefully he comes of age.

Rein Taaramae (383pts) - Could top 10 at the Tour. Could top 10 at a Grand Tour this year. Injury plagued 2010 and I would expect him to bounce back huge in 2011.

Emanuele Sella (354pts) - That Giro course suits him. Big Giro expected.

Patrick Sinkewitz (340pts) - Will be leader at the Giro. A top 20 is on offer with perhaps a potential top 10 but he will compete and complete a Grand Tour. Something he didn't do last year. Plus will get invited to some of the early classics.

John Gadret (322pts) - Should improve on this

Thomas Lofkvist (319pts) - Leader at the Giro. Could come top 10. Will ride the Tour.

Pierre Rolland (314pts) - France's best next hope of a grand tour victory. Is talented. Just needs to find the form.

Francesco Chicchi (287pts) - Will find a lot of leadership this year at Quick Step. Will be their sprinter in France and Italy. Should have a huge year now that he's not under someone else's shadow. Boonen is only focusing on the classics so that should leave the door open for Chicchi in Grand Tours.

Heinrich Haussler (251pts) - Injury interrupted 2010. Will bounce back and find 2009 form (here's hoping).

Theo Bos (182pts) - Will come of age and find some more leadership opportunities at Rabobank. Wants to race the Giro and Vuelta. Good enough for me - particularly if he completes them and does well in them.

Fabio Duarte (181pts) - One of the bright talents coming from Colombia.

Romain Sicard (174pts) - I rate him and am hoping he has a huge year.

Laurent Didier (159pts) - Surprised not many people have him. Luxembourger. The Schleck's should give him a bidon role in the Tour. Could also find a similar role in the Vuelta or Giro.

Simon Gerrans (140pts) - Injury interrupted 2010. Will hopefully bounce back strong in 2011.

Branislau Samoilau (133pts) - Will hopefully find his talent and more leadership roles at Movistar. Can definitely top 10 in a Grand Tour and will come of age at some point. Hopefully next year.

Kanstantsin Siutsou (121pts) - HTC used him a lot last year and expected him to step up and he did. He will be expected to step up and lead the team at one of the Grand Tours next year. He should do at least 2 grand tours next year. I see him being the leader at one, Velits a leader at the other and Van Garderen leader at another.

Mikhail Ignatiev (117pts) - Talented rider who had an injury interrupted 2010.

Danilo Di Luca (113pts) - Welcome back. Hopefully to a high placing at the Giro.

Michal Kwiatowski (87pts) - Talented Polish rider who should do well next year.

William Clarke (77pts) - Will probably have a breakout year similar to his friend Richie Porte. Should do well in the smaller classics and hopefully does the Giro as a leadout for Bennati.

Amets Txurruka (75pts) - Injury interrupted 2010. Hopefully bounces back in 2011.

Brice Feillu (70pts) - Potential leader at the Giro. Definitely will ride in France.

Franco Pellizotti (60pts) - Welcome back Franco. Missed a lot in 2010 due to obvious reasons. Will bounce back strong in 2011.

Juan Mauricio Soler (47pts) - A space filler. We know what he can do. Now can he stop crashing?

Kevin Seeldraeyers (40pts) - Hopefully will live up to the hype in 2011. A good space filler.

Jesse Sergent (30pts) - Great space filler for someone who should win/high place in a lot of prologues/short time trials.

Angel Madrazo (20pts) - A young talent and hopefully has a huge 2011.

Phillip Deignan (5pts) - Bargain for someone who will pick up a lot of points in 2011.

Giacomo Nizzolo (4pts) - Probably the best young sprinter coming out of Italy at the moment and Leopard will probably try him out as a leader in some races that Bennati isn't around in.

Juan Jose Cobo (0pts) - Doesn't cost anything. Could pick up cheap points.

Timofey Kritskiy (0pts) - Talented Russian rider who had bad luck this year. Here's hoping he will have better luck in 2011.

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My Tour de France team:

1. Igor Anton
2. Richie Porte
3. Bauke Mollema
4. Ricardo Ricco
5. Thomas Lofkvist
6. Franco Pellizotti
7. John Gadret
8. Kanstantsin Siutsou
9. Rein Taaramae

Res 1: Amets Txurruka
Res 2: Pierre Rolland
Res 3: Branislau Samoilau
Res 4: Brice Feillu

My team for the Giro:

1. Danilo Di Luca
2. Juan Maurcio Soler
3. Amets Txurruka
4. Emanuele Sella
5. Patrick Sinkewitz
6. Heinrich Haussler
7. Francesco Chicchi
8. Mikhail Ignatiev
9. Theo Bos


Final lead-out train.

Ignatiev does work, then Bos pulls out, then Haussler, then Chicchi wins the race. Pretty good leadout. Balanced team for sprints and for Di Luca's overall ambitions.

My Vuelta Team:

1. Igor Anton
2. Branislau Samoilau
3. Amets Txurruka
4. Juan Mauricio Soler
5. Brice Feillu
6. Pierre Rolland
7. Fabio Duarte
8. Phillip Deignan
9. Simon Gerrans

Milan San-Remo Team:

1. Heinrich Haussler
2. Francesco Chicchi
3. Theo Bos
4. Mikhail Ignatiev
5. Michal Kwiatowski
6. Romain Sicard
7. Patrick Sinkewitz
8. Timofey Kriskiy
9. Will Clarke
 
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The Hitch said:
Hugo, i know you said you wouldnt change it.

But on the other hand its Christmas, and i would argue that Efimkin retiring - not racing next season, is no different to Pegasus riders being told they cant race next season. So if you do reconsider I would like to swap him for a random rider no one else chose ;)

VAN WINDEN Dennis 35

Otherwise, just ignore this post ;)

Hey, somebody choose that superstar :p

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So no more people can enter or edit teams now?

Do the bay Crits count to CQ?

I don't think so. Not sure though.
 
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CANCELLARA Fabian 254
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 228
BOONEN Tom 216
KREUZIGER Roman 196
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 132
SAGAN Peter 111
POZZATO Filippo 60
CHAMPION Dimitri 1
KLUGE Roger 1
CHICCHI Francesco 1
TOTAL 1200
 
why not just play some of the free-to-enter established fantasy games already available on the net and compete against some of the best gamers in the world ?
Try your luck over at CyclingFever's Tour Down Under 2011 game, where you will be competing with about 500 other gamers from around 40 countries.
A warm welcome to all !
http://tdu.cyclingfever.com/
 
lucybears said:
why not just play some of the free-to-enter established fantasy games already available on the net and compete against some of the best gamers in the world ?
Try your luck over at CyclingFever's Tour Down Under 2011 game, where you will be competing with about 500 other gamers from around 40 countries.
A warm welcome to all !
http://tdu.cyclingfever.com/

Because these CNF games allow us to compete directly against fellow posters who we argue with year round, and one of us is guaranteed to be a winner and have bragging rights, rather than the top poster coming about 50th out of 500 in a more broad game.

Not saying some of us wont try it, but why these are so popular.
 
My Team and the thoughts behind :

Riccardo Ricco = Il Cobra returns. Potential winner of the 2011 Giro D’Italia, plus animator of all the hardest mountain-stages earn him a selection on my CQ fantasy squad.

Sergio Pardilla = Powerful little climber, who have been flying under the radar for a few years now. Next season will be his first among the heavy hitters and I sense an immediate breakthrough. Will shine each and every time the roads tilt uphill.

Lars Boom = Dutch powerhouse who is knocking on the door for a breakthrough on the international scene. Will be one of my aces in the northern classic campaign.

Benat Intxausti = Basque boy-wonder who was self-written on my fantasy clique from the beginning. Talented young climber who will look to shine in the week long stage-races and one of the GT’s.

Daniel Oss = Young Italian class act who already delivered the gods in 2010. 2011 however whisper promises of even greater things and I think he will be one of the main men to watch on the cobbles in the coming season.

Rein Taaramae = An injury plagued season hampered him from reaching his full potential in 2010. The coming year however can very well be a breakout year for the talented Estonian who aims to succeed in the multi-day stage races.

Emanuele Sella = Impressed me highly at this year’s Tour of Austria, where he demonstrated that his climbing abilities still are on a very high level even after his suspension. Fully expect to see him back on a decent level in 2011, without reaching the unhealthy heights of 2008.

Davide Appollonio = Young gun who in 2010 showed that undulating terrain and short climbs are well suited for him. Packs a very fast finish on top.

Morris Possoni = Very underestimated rider who had a great season in 2010. I believe he has a big future in the Grand Tours, where he should excel in the high mountains due to his phenomenal abilities as a climber.

Fabio Felline = Fabio Felline is one of the next shooting stars out of Italian, he can climb and sprint well, and is in many ways comparable to Alejandro Valverde because of their similar rider- characteristics.

Michael Matthews = The young Australian is a complete rider who can climb, time-trial and sprint, qualities which make him one of the most well rounded young cyclists in the world today. Amazingly gifted athlete with a sparkling bright future ahead of him.

Diego Ulissi = “The pocket-rocket from Cecina”. Diego Ulissi is full of talent and an outstanding climber who thrives in the high mountains. A fantastic talent, capable of achieving great results in the future.

Jacopo Guarnieri = 23-year-old Jacopo Guarnieri is slowly emerging as one of the biggest talents in cycling today. Known for his exceptional speed, there is little doubt he has the potential to develop into a world-class boulevard sprinter over the next couple of years to come.

Sebastian Langeveld = Sebastian Langeveld is one of cycling's top northern Classic youth prospects - although to date his only big results are a second place in Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne back in 2008, and two top-10s in E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke (In 2009 and 2010). 2011 could very well be a do or die year for the young Dutchman.

Steven Kruijswijk = One of the more pleasant surprises of 2010. Rode an excellent Giro D’Italia and showed his unquestionable talent for stage-racing by breaking into the top-20 in his first ever grand-tour. 3 months later In Vuelta a Burgos he showed his worth again by following some of the sports best climbers up Laguna’s de Neila ending on a very respectable 7th place on this legendary mountain.

Adriano Malori = Adriano Malori is a young up and coming stage-race specialist who looks destined for a great future. Adriano’s phenomenal abilities against the clock landed him the U-23 world championship crown in 2008 and his resilient stamina on the long steady climbs makes him resemble Marzio Bruseghin a lot at this early point in his career. Has hinted in some Interviews that becomeing a top-notch stage-racer may be past his abilities, but his climbing resume as a U-23er still makes me give him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone who can grind it up with the best on Monte-Grappa (In 2007 and 2008) can defiantly climb well above average.

Damiano Caruso = Young Italian climbing and Ardennes specialist who thrives, when the climbs reach steep gradients, and his tiny physique really comes to its right. Had an excellent 2010 season and the only worry is that he will get man-handled in the powerful Liquigas setup. He is very young though, and his time will defiantly come. One to watch for the future.

Artem Ovechkin = Showed his enormous qualities when he climbed with the best on Kitzbüheler Horn and Großglockner in the Tour of Austria. A strong climber as well as time-trialist, A. Ovechkin has all the necessary tools needed for developing into a successful stage-racer in the years to come.

Fabio Duarte = On his day a phenomenal climber, well known for his incredible abilities in the high mountains; abilities which have earned him the stamp as a genuine Grand-Tour contender for the future. Have already taking big scalps by winning on Alto del Acebo (2010) Fuente del Chivo (2010) and Alto de la Linea (2009). In my opinion one of the absolute biggest talents in international cycling today, and a much more well rounded cyclist than for example Sergio Luis Heano.

Daniele Ratto = Italian wonder-child, who has been touted as the new “Damiano Cunego”. D. Ratto is an excellent climber and Ardennes specialist who also possesses a good turn of speed in smaller group sprints as well.

John Degenkolb = This 21 year old German is primarily a sprinter and one-day classic specialist and has the potential to go very far in his career. 2011 should be a learning experience for him, but already next year I fully expected to see him shine in some of the minor classics the international cycling calendar has to offer.

Marko Kump = Young Slovenian who is a tough, resilient sprinter who gets over the minor hills well, qualities that could potentially turn him into a fine “classicmano” in the future.

Branislau Samoilau = Highly promising youngster with an enormous capacity for all the biggest stage-races. Excellent climber, who thrives in the high mountains, besides being a more than solid time-trailist as well. A personal favorite from whom I expect very big things in 2011.

Coen Vermeltfoot = The Dutch equivalent to Tom Boonen. C. Vermeltfoort is a young, tenacious and powerful sprinter who is set for a very successful career. His eminent physique makes him perfectly suited for the cobblestone classics as well; and races like Tour of Flanders and Paris-Roubaix have his name written all over them in the years to come.

Egor Silin = Rough, unpolished diamond with loads of potential. Strong climber who will go well in the hilly Ardennes classics and Grand Tours in the future.

Gianluca Brambilla = Gianluca Brambilla is a small lightweight climber who excels in the high mountains and hard multiday stage races. Won the summit finish on Monte-Grappa in the 2007 edition of Giro del Vento.

Simone Ponzi = Despite having two disappointing years as a professional so far, I still rate him as the real successor to Paolo Bettini. Perfectly suited to hard 1-day classics and with his fast finish in mind he is always a threat in minor reduced group sprints. His resilience’s is one of his main triads, his 7th place on Monte Grappa (In 2007) and 9th place on Monte Bondone (also in 2007) is proof thereof.

Yonathan Monslve = The prototype of a unique cyclist. His qualities as a strong climber, fast finisher mixed with unique descending skills, makes him one of the most interesting and versatile riders in the pro peloton.

Francesco Masciarelli = The youngest of 3 brothers (all of whom are professional cyclists) and the son of former Italian professional, Palmiro Masciarelli. Explosive little climber who is at ease on the long hard cols as well as selective 1-day events.

Carlos Alberto Betancourt = Winner of the U-23 version of Vuelta Colombia in 2009 and the highly respected Baby Giro in 2010. A very bright prospect who will be interesting to follow in the coming season.

John-Lee Augustyn = John-Lee’s an excellent climber and I’m convinced that, in time, he'll have success in the pro ranks if he can stay injury free.

Alexander Ryabkin = Very talented young Russian, who has impressed highly with his performances on the Spanish U/23 scene throughout the past 3 years. An excellent climber, who has his force in the high mountains. 2nd on GC in Vuelta Palencia, 2nd on GC in Vuelta Bidasoa, 2nd on GC in Bizkaiko Bira, 2nd on GC in Vuelta a la Comunidad Madrid are just a few example of his many results.

Andrea Guardini = 18 wins in 2010 speak for itself. The fastest sprinter out of Italy in Years. Much faster top-speed than say Giacomo Nizzolo for example.

Riders : 33
Points : 7485
 
Alright! Let the speculation begin now that the new year has come! My team took me a few days to pick, a few weeks to mull over, and involved a few agonizing decisions. I didn't look very hard at anyone else's list (ie. I didn't pick anyone I wouldn't have if I didn't have access to those lists), and although I saw people mention Cobo a few times, I'm sure I would have found him with the method I used to pick my team (which was pretty meticulous - and often tedious).

Most difficult was the decision not to take Igor Anton. I notice a lot of people have him, and with good reason. It's pretty easy to imagine how his season would have been if he hadn't crashed out of the Vuelta (around 5-600 more points) and forecast that, or more (if he's a leader at the Giro) onto next year. But I curbed my enthusiasm ultimately on the basis that he's been inconsistent in years past. I'd rather have somebody who will probably have a solid, and better year than last year than somebody who might have a spectacular year, but might have a totally mediocre one. We'll see how that works for me, it's hard to forget that amazing stage of the Vuelta that he won after being dropped and pulling back everyone...

Anyway, here's my team - lots of picks that other people had, it looks like, but that just makes me feel like I made some smart picks. I think in this game it's hard to find a lightning strike of a pick that no one else has, it's more a matter of assembling the best team.

Riders - 33
Total - 7489

Roman Kreuziger (839) - He's been a solid rider for 3-4 years, is still young, and should get more outright leadership opportunities at Astana.

Tom Boonen (777) - Missed almost half the year, and he's been a solid at least 1300 pointer for years.

Riccardo Ricco (756) - I really didn't want to pick him. But his results this year convinced me - there was barely anything in which he didn't have a really good finish, and got 756 points despite missing the early season, riding for a Continental team, and then having a team switch drama mid-season. He might destroy this year.

Damiano Cunego (659) - A no-brainer for me. He's much, much better than this year's results would indicate.

Tejay van Garderen (531) - One of the more difficult choices (since Mollema and Sylvain Chavanel were both right around his score), but I feel like he had a solid year and learned how to ride a GT, and he's on a team with few GC options so he'll be given more opportunities to shine.

Alessandro Ballan (474) - Has the potential to do alot, and he missed his best races this season with his team-imposed suspension.

Vladimir Gusev (443) - Missed half the year, can excel in lots of one day races, is a good TTer, and had good results in years past.

Gerald Ciolek (346) - The same reasoning that Sasquatch used for Chicchi, except I think Ciolek might end up being the man at QuickStep. Although his last couple of years have not lived up to his expectations as a 19 and 20 year old...

Sacha Modolo (330) - Fast, and young enough that each year has the potential to be a step up in terms of results and consistency.

Thomas Lofkvist (318) - Didn't live up to previous years, and I think he's much better than these point totals would indicate.

Fabio Felline (288) - Honestly, I'm mostly picking him because I think I was subconsciously hyped by hearing so much buzz about him on this forum. He's only 20, and I'm skeptical that next year he'll make that big of a step up. But here's hoping.

Heinrich Haussler (251) - Do I really need to explain? He's capable of winning a monument, which alone is worth more points than this year's total.

Kristjan Koren (223) - Had solid results this year, and I have a soft spot for Slovenians.

Romain Sicard (174) - Didn't wow everyone this year, but he's a neo-pro, and his results were high enough and solid enough that if he takes his year of experience and jumps up in results like other good riders have in recent years (Cav, EBH come to mind), he should be a good point-getter in one-days and weeklong stage races. And I have a soft spot for Basques.

Jack Bobridge (149) - Same as above, although I don't have a soft spot for Australians like I do for Basques. But he's still a great pick.

Simon Gerrans (140) - Injury, bad year.

Konstantin Siustou (121) - Like Tejay, he should get some opportunities at HTC now that Rogers is gone and they really have very few options for GC.

Danilo Di Luca (113) - For sure the Killer is still a great rider. Should come back with a vengeance.

Christian Vande Velde (90) - Injury, horrible year.

Andrey Kashechkin (84) - Sure he was not the old Kash in the Vuelta, but do you remember Vino coming back in last year's Vuelta? He didn't even finish. I'm banking on Kash getting those racing legs back under him. Who does Lampre even have for the Tour?

Andrew Talansky (76) - I'm under few illusions that he'll wow in his neo-pro year, but if I'm going to take some kind of risk it might as well be with a small point-getter.

Franco Pelizotti (60) - Ugh, I didn't want to pick him, I don't really like him, and I kinda hope he doesn't come back because I would like to see the Bio Passport be able to suspend people. Still, if he does ride, he's worth so much more than the 60 points that I can't not take him.

Stef Clement (54) - He's better than this point total, for sure.

Mauricio Soler (47) - We'll see, good value if he's good, little loss if he's not.

Carlos Betancourt (45) - same as above, but I think his results have been pretty solid and impressive.

Frederick Kessiakoff (34) - Weird, bad year. Should be better with more opportunities on a new team.

Kurt Asle Arvesen (24) - ageing, but had a horrible injury year and should be much better.

Vladimir Efimkin (20) - I know, he might not race again, but if he does he's a great talent. I debated taking Jesse Sergent instead, but maybe I'm just hoping for Efimkin to come back because I like him.

Alex Dowsett (10) - Neo-pro, but got some good results in non-CQ ranking races. I feel he'll show in some larger TTs at least, and that'll give him value alone.

Philip Deignan (5) - Of course you have to take him.

Stefan Schumacher (5) - another one of those 'sigh, I guess I have to take him, even if I don't like him' decisions. He's too good to pass up at this value.

Alexandre Usov (3) - Yeesh, if he even shows in like 5 sprints all year he'll get way more than 3 points. What even happened to him this year?

JJ Cobo (0) - it literally can't get any worse...

Other guys I agonized about but didn't take:

Boasson Hagen - I think he has the potential for 2500 points in any given year. But taking him would mean that I had to take a bunch more low level guys, and I really like spreading out the risk.

Tony Martin - He's so solid, and could improve on his 995 points by 6-700 if he hones some edges. But I don't know if this is possible as a 1-year improvement.

Theo Bos - If he's learned how to ride 200km, he'll be formidable. I just don't think he has yet.

Fabio Duarte - I'm always leery of South American talent 'making it' in Europe, despite his obviously massive talent. I'm too cautious.

Denis Galimzyanov - seems like he's the sprinter at Katusha, so he should get some chances for sure. I just don't know how good he is.

John-Christophe Peraud - He's a bit old, but after his first year of road he might have gotten the hang of it. I just like him.

Yohann Offredo - He's awesome. I hope he rips it up in 2011. My head says he won't do that much better than 2010, but I'll be cheering for him every time.

I also picked a team from my 45 rider shortlist of guys that I just really liked, ie. picking with my heart. There's only 25 riders on it, but the point total is pretty much the same. I'm gonna keep track, and It'll be interesting to see which team ends up doing better.
 
The Hitch said:
Hugo, i know you said you wouldnt change it.

But on the other hand its Christmas, and i would argue that Efimkin retiring - not racing next season, is no different to Pegasus riders being told they cant race next season. So if you do reconsider I would like to swap him for a random rider no one else chose ;)

VAN WINDEN Dennis 35

Otherwise, just ignore this post ;)
Hey, I picked him! Don't pretend to be original :p
 
theyoungest said:
Hey, I picked him! Don't pretend to be original :p

On page 17 Ingsve did a list of all the riders picked by the original 30 barring me. So i went back to see if van winden was picked. He was not. I wasnt going to go through 85 lists looking for him;) Im not likely to find any other rider not picked by anyone else other than probably Joaquim Rodriguez.
 
The (almost) complete spreadsheet is now uploaded:

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7...lkY2ItMDlhN2JlOTcwOTYw&hl=en&authkey=CJX95ugJ

So.. who's the favorite to win? Who will finish last? :p

Personally I think that Gotland, AAC1983 (and I like that he hasn't included Deignan, Cobo, Schumacher etc.), Kazistuta and MADRAZO have some very good teams. There are of course other's too, but at a quick glance, I think these are very good.

I do kinda hope that Libertine Seguros does well. I really like his team. And well obviously I hope that I will do well, too :)

In the buttom end of teams it' hard to overlook Wiggins_fan as the favorite to finish last :p
 
Hugo Koblet said:
The (almost) complete spreadsheet is now uploaded:

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7...lkY2ItMDlhN2JlOTcwOTYw&hl=en&authkey=CJX95ugJ

So.. who's the favorite to win? Who will finish last? :p

Personally I think that Gotland, AAC1983 (and I like that he hasn't included Deignan, Cobo, Schumacher etc.), Kazistuta and MADRAZO have some very good teams. There are of course other's too, but at a quick glance, I think these are very good.

I do kinda hope that Libertine Seguros does well. I really like his team. And well obviously I hope that I will do well, too :)

In the buttom end of teams it' hard to overlook Wiggins_fan as the favorite to finish last :p

Great job Hugo ;)
 
Hugo Koblet said:
Personally I think that Gotland, AAC1983 (and I like that he hasn't included Deignan, Cobo, Schumacher etc.), Kazistuta and MADRAZO have some very good teams. There are of course other's too, but at a quick glance, I think these are very good.

Personally I think my forgetting all about Di Luca while picking my team will hurt my chances. He will surely gain 700-1000 points if he's not part of the same "black list" as Michael Rasmussen....

But I'll gladly take the best non-Di Luca team honour after the season:cool:
 
The Hitch said:
rather than the top poster coming about 50th out of 500 in a more broad game.

aim higher ! in last years CyclingFever's Tour Down Under special the winners of the three games were from Spain, Romania and the USA, with Leed's Andy Glover taking a podium place.

plus you can set up your own sub-league allowing you to compete directly against your fellow posters....
 
Hugo Koblet said:
The (almost) complete spreadsheet is now uploaded:

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7...lkY2ItMDlhN2JlOTcwOTYw&hl=en&authkey=CJX95ugJ

So.. who's the favorite to win? Who will finish last? :p

Personally I think that Gotland, AAC1983 (and I like that he hasn't included Deignan, Cobo, Schumacher etc.), Kazistuta and MADRAZO have some very good teams. There are of course other's too, but at a quick glance, I think these are very good.

I do kinda hope that Libertine Seguros does well. I really like his team. And well obviously I hope that I will do well, too :)

In the buttom end of teams it' hard to overlook Wiggins_fan as the favorite to finish last :p

Did you find a quick way of counting all the riders? Otherwise I'll do it the hard way again.
 
ingsve said:
Did you find a quick way of counting all the riders? Otherwise I'll do it the hard way again.

No unfortunately I didn't.. I'm not very good at Excel so I couldn't get the "countif" function to work.

Would be fun to see a list of the most popular riders though.

Also, what do you guys think "the optimal team" would look like? My team for certain isn't optimal in any way. I just picked riders I like and expect will do well without thinking about the theory behind (ie. if the rider is capable of doubling his score etc.).
 
Hugo Koblet said:
No unfortunately I didn't.. I'm not very good at Excel so I couldn't get the "countif" function to work.

Would be fun to see a list of the most popular riders though.

Also, what do you guys think "the optimal team" would look like? My team for certain isn't optimal in any way. I just picked riders I like and expect will do well without thinking about the theory behind (ie. if the rider is capable of doubling his score etc.).

I think one of the guys who came in with all the best picks having clearly read other peoples lists and discussions on the subject has something very very close to the optimal team.

But to be more general the better teams should have 33 ridrers and preferably no one costing more than 600. Unsurprisingly a lot more people who submitted their list with CObo and Deignan and Schumacher and Di Luca after December 10th or so, went for 33 riders, no doubt reading not just other peoples lists but the discussion on this subject in the early pages.

But a lot of people included a 700 - 1200 rider and then to compensate for the lack of points left, included a bunch of guys who cost 0- 50.

IMO this is like sprinting the first half of a time trial and then being a bit tired for the second half. Consistency is a good thing. THe average cost per rider for 7500 points is something like 215 so with the exception of the steals mentioned above, its best to keep many riders close in the 150- 300 range as they have a bigger room for improvement than the 500 + riders.
 
The Hitch said:
But a lot of people included a 700 - 1200 rider and then to compensate for the lack of points left, included a bunch of guys who cost 0- 50.

IMO this is like sprinting the first half of a time trial and then being a bit tired for the second half. Consistency is a good thing. THe average cost per rider for 7500 points is something like 215 so with the exception of the steals mentioned above, its best to keep many riders close in the 150- 300 range as they have a bigger room for improvement than the 500 + riders.
But most riders in the 150-300 range aren't going to explode and earn 1000 points this year. IMO it's better to have one consistent point-getter, and build from there.
 
theyoungest said:
But most riders in the 150-300 range aren't going to explode and earn 1000 points this year. IMO it's better to have one consistent point-getter, and build from there.

I guess it's a question of preferances - especially now that we actually don't know how it will turn out.

Having 1 rider at 700 points and two at 25 each or 3 riders at 250 points each. I don't really know which is better, but maybe we'll see by the end of year :)
 

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