That are your claim not mine. You made that up. That is the crashes at the end of bunch sprint stages are less important or severe compared to other ones.
They are surely not.
They are surely not.
That are your claim not mine. You made that up. That is the crashes at the end of bunch sprint stages are less important or severe compared to other ones.
They are surely not.
IIRC, Thomas was taken out by one that fell out of a bottle cage when they went over cobbles in the neutral zone (Although, having some construction rules about bottle cages and retention probably wouldn't be a bad improvement though tbh). I thought the UCI stuff on bottles was more to do with littering than a safety issue per se.And tossed/dropped bottles are a safety issue. It literally took Thomas out of the Giro last year.
That are your claim not mine. You made that up. That is the crashes at the end of bunch sprint stages are less important or severe compared to other ones.
They are surely not.
Yeah, just pointing out the contrast of people making fun of the bottle toss rules, while at the same time insisting we fundamentally alter the finish of flat stages to protect gc riders.IIRC, Thomas was taken out by one that fell out of a bottle cage when they went over cobbles in the neutral zone (Although, having some construction rules about bottle cages and retention probably wouldn't be a bad improvement though tbh). I thought the UCI stuff on bottles was more to do with littering than a safety issue per se.
"GC riders"Who gives a *** about "killed GC"? I'm talking about crashes causing actual injury, even death!
And you really shouldn't talk too loudly about putting too much emphasis on one aspect. What with you constantly harping on about GC riders...
Yeah, just pointing out the contrast of people making fun of the bottle toss rules, while at the same time insisting we fundamentally alter the finish of flat stages to protect gc riders.
Let me put it this way. If the crashes i am talking about wouldn't cause injuries then the GC race would not be killed.
@RedheadDane
Crash = Not good.
As for why i am focused on this specific area. Because here things can improve vastly and it's not a rocket science on how to do that. Once we do this we can move on to other areas. Or better other people can put more emphasise on other areas and work on that. I have no problem with that.
Okay, what should they do, then? How should they prevent GC riders from crashing/getting caught behind crashes on sprint stages without neutralising the finale of every sprint stage? Because that appears to be your "solution".
And what the hell is T. Martin talking about? Riders do care about safety! However, I can understand if it sometimes feels like an uphill battle, dealing with UCI and other shareholders.
I am OK with whatever solution implemented that takes the initiative away for GC riders to be there.
When panzerwagen says zilch was done in the past decade then you just somehow have to accept that.
Even if the GC riders weren't there, there would still be crashes.
And how do you decide who the GC riders are anyway? Would Wout Van Aert be allowed to be near the front? He sometimes does both...
But can you give me just one example of a serious crash caused by GC riders being near the front during sprint stages? And by "serious" I don't mean "someone lost a bit of time", I mean serious injury, or even death.
Not when it isn't true...
Are you talking XC-skiing, or just downhill?Or if instead they went skiing during the winter and nothing got done.
Are you talking XC-skiing, or just downhill?
Just read what Tony said. Somewhere in the lines of if you are doing 50km/h or up on a bike and you crash ... It's serious business. If you don't believe it put on some protective equipment on and try to crash with a bike doing 5km/h. You will get the point after.
It's true. Introduction of helmet is the last thing that likely improved safety a bit. The rest was more or less a joke.
Still doesn't change the fact that the vast majority - if not all - serious crashes in recent years happened in all other situations than "GC riders being too close to the front during the finale of sprint stages."