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wendybnt said:
There are a whole load of second hand ones for sale tonight.

Barely used.

;)
zing!

touche WBNT


devil's advocate: I think they could have sold them "as new" or "new" on ebay.
 
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The fact that Khawaja is being considered says it all. He and Phil Hughes and many other players were not given the chances many others received and the new players were always seen as the scapegoats for the losses. Doolan and Bailey were not around for long either. I think Watson will be lucky to ever get back and for me he has always been a better ODI player than a test player. At the same time Maxwell and Faulkner are very good ODI players and have to be considered for the test team. Warner was the same style of player when he first made the test team and still scores quickly or not at all typical of many ODI players. I think they will use the upcoming summer series' against the Windies and NZ to blood the new players. Cummins should bowl in the Fifth Test as well, it's a dead rubber anyway and Starc has injury issues. Or maybe just play an extra bowler, Cummin's batting won't be worse than anyone else's for Australia at the moment !
Watson should have been given the chance to be a full-time opener, and no bowling. He averaged over 40 opening, he could take advantage of the field up, and a new ball. Otherwise, he was an ordinary bat, and ordinary all-rounder.
 
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movingtarget said:
The fact that Khawaja is being considered says it all. He and Phil Hughes and many other players were not given the chances many others received and the new players were always seen as the scapegoats for the losses. Doolan and Bailey were not around for long either. I think Watson will be lucky to ever get back and for me he has always been a better ODI player than a test player. At the same time Maxwell and Faulkner are very good ODI players and have to be considered for the test team. Warner was the same style of player when he first made the test team and still scores quickly or not at all typical of many ODI players. I think they will use the upcoming summer series' against the Windies and NZ to blood the new players. Cummins should bowl in the Fifth Test as well, it's a dead rubber anyway and Starc has injury issues. Or maybe just play an extra bowler, Cummin's batting won't be worse than anyone else's for Australia at the moment !
Watson should have been given the chance to be a full-time opener, and no bowling. He averaged over 40 opening, he could take advantage of the field up, and a new ball. Otherwise, he was an ordinary bat, and ordinary all-rounder.
Watson did do well initially as an opening batsman but they dropped him down the order to try turn his form around and it did not work. The fact that most of his injuries came from bowling was not ideal when they saw him mainly as an all rounder not a batsman and his bowling has come in handy sometimes but it looks like he is going to be another victim. Ponting seemed to think he deserved another shot but was not convinced he was going to get one. Clarke has stated that he was not asked to step down but I bet he felt the pressure over his shoulder and it was just a matter of time before the conversation happened. He has nothing left to prove and just like Ponting, not everyone can leave on a high but I'm sure the World Cup win was sweet when there doubts he would even play. But of course Ashes Tests are the dominant contest for Australians and the English and this defeat had to hurt after the whitewash in Australia but even Lehman admitted that Australia played better in the previous series in England and that was obvious to most people but it wasn't just the batsmen it was the bowlers as well. Starc and Johnson were not as effective nor any of the others.
 
Kane Williamson looks like the goods. Very solid technique, good eye, patient. Excellent batsman.

I hope that Taylor, Watling, McCullum and Guptill step up and give him some support, otherwise it's going to be a long summer for New Zealand.
 
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42x16ss said:
Kane Williamson looks like the goods. Very solid technique, good eye, patient. Excellent batsman.

I hope that Taylor, Watling, McCullum and Guptill step up and give him some support, otherwise it's going to be a long summer for New Zealand.
no argument there

poor performance(s) from the NZ batsmen.....we're getting a solid punishing and a masterclass in batting from Aussie (Warner, as much as I dislike him)

Payback for the Rugby WC - :D
 
Good to see a pitch that isn't a total road for once, I expected more of the same from Perth TBH.

Also, interesting to see that Boult and Southee got the pink ball to swing at night. It's easier to see on TV than I expected too, but I hear that the crowd and outfielders are having some trouble around sunset.
 
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42x16ss said:
Good to see a pitch that isn't a total road for once, I expected more of the same from Perth TBH.

Also, interesting to see that Boult and Southee got the pink ball to swing at night. It's easier to see on TV than I expected too, but I hear that the crowd and outfielders are having some trouble around sunset.
I was having trouble seeing the ball. Can understand why Steve Smith was having troubles with the catching
 
The Hobart pitch for the first test against the West Indies looks like it could be a raging green top! It would be great to see the Windies quicks wind it up, it's been too long between drinks for them. Sad to see what they have become, hopefully things can turn around for them.
 
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42x16ss said:
The Hobart pitch for the first test against the West Indies looks like it could be a raging green top! It would be great to see the Windies quicks wind it up, it's been too long between drinks for them. Sad to see what they have become, hopefully things can turn around for them.
their best sportsmen play american sports now, and go to college in the states. imagine tim duncan with the new ball. yeah i know, he was from bermuda or some other islands, not a traditional cricketing domocile
 
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blackcat said:
42x16ss said:
The Hobart pitch for the first test against the West Indies looks like it could be a raging green top! It would be great to see the Windies quicks wind it up, it's been too long between drinks for them. Sad to see what they have become, hopefully things can turn around for them.
their best sportsmen play american sports now, and go to college in the states. imagine tim duncan with the new ball. yeah i know, he was from bermuda or some other islands, not a traditional cricketing domocile
Or even Usain Bolt - he's pretty handy full stop. Interestingly cricket is starting to poke its nose in the door in the USA. Those legends games organised by Shane Warne all attracted crowds of 35000 plus. When you consider that there were no current players - only retired - there that's pretty impressive.
 
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42x16ss said:
blackcat said:
42x16ss said:
The Hobart pitch for the first test against the West Indies looks like it could be a raging green top! It would be great to see the Windies quicks wind it up, it's been too long between drinks for them. Sad to see what they have become, hopefully things can turn around for them.
their best sportsmen play american sports now, and go to college in the states. imagine tim duncan with the new ball. yeah i know, he was from bermuda or some other islands, not a traditional cricketing domocile
Or even Usain Bolt - he's pretty handy full stop. Interestingly cricket is starting to poke its nose in the door in the USA. Those legends games organised by Shane Warne all attracted crowds of 35000 plus. When you consider that there were no current players - only retired - there that's pretty impressive.
It seems that cricket is getting a push in junior schools in the USA. Obviously migration is having an effect but I had to laugh with the story I watched. The coach of the school team had never played before and it looked a lot like backyard cricket but the kids were having fun. What I did not know is that cricket was played quite often in the USA presumably by the English before baseball took off, and then it just faded away.

The Hobart pitch does not seem to be as good as usual but the Windies are out of their depth. The writing was on the wall when they got beat in their lead up game by a team of young Aussies who are no slouches of course but Windies cricket seems to have fallen through the floor especially Test cricket. Did not seem to be many at the game. They might have to give away some tickets or do what the Chinese did in the Olympics and fill the stands with students !

I have no idea why the Windies did not take the new ball. The entire Channel Nine commentary team went silent they seemed dumbfounded by the decision when the team were needing wickets and Australia was 430 odd for 3 down !
 
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movingtarget said:
It seems that cricket is getting a push in junior schools in the USA. Obviously migration is having an effect but I had to laugh with the story I watched. The coach of the school team had never played before and it looked a lot like backyard cricket but the kids were having fun. What I did not know is that cricket was played quite often in the USA presumably by the English before baseball took off, and then it just faded away.

The Hobart pitch does not seem to be as good as usual but the Windies are out of their depth. The writing was on the wall when they got beat in their lead up game by a team of young Aussies who are no slouches of co
urse but Windies cricket seems to have fallen through the floor especially Test cricket. Did not seem to be many at the game. They might have to give away some tickets or do what the Chinese did in the Olympics and fill the stands with students !

I have no idea why the Windies did not take the new ball. The entire Channel Nine commentary team went silent they seemed dumbfounded by the decision when the team were needing wickets and Australia was 430 odd for 3 down !
they thought the ball was reversing

(reverse swing)
 
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42x16ss said:
Or even Usain Bolt - he's pretty handy full stop. Interestingly cricket is starting to poke its nose in the door in the USA. Those legends games organised by Shane Warne all attracted crowds of 35000 plus. When you consider that there were no current players - only retired - there that's pretty impressive.
well, you get Sachin Tendulkar anywhere and he will pull 100k, not 35k.

#contradiction
my contradiction.

Re: Usain Bolt. his favourite sportsman is Matty Hayden.
 
I'm going to say the same thing I said last summer.

When will the English selectors pull their heads out of their collective ar$es and just recall Pietersen? He put on an absolute masterclass (76 off 42) last night on a failing green top, in a losing side. Once again, it was just controlled, orthodox strokes, with perfect timing and raw power including 3 sixes and a four off one over from one of Australia's very best young up and coming quicks (Sandhu). West Indian international Andre Russell also went the journey. His straight drive was directly out of the textbook.

FFS he was even better than Khawaja and Faulkner, his skill is otherworldly.
 
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42x16ss said:
I'm going to say the same thing I said last summer.

When will the English selectors pull their heads out of their collective ar$es and just recall Pietersen? He put on an absolute masterclass (76 off 42) last night on a failing green top, in a losing side. Once again, it was just controlled, orthodox strokes, with perfect timing and raw power including 3 sixes and a four off one over from one of Australia's very best young up and coming quicks (Sandhu). West Indian international Andre Russell also went the journey. His straight drive was directly out of the textbook.

FFS he was even better than Khawaja and Faulkner, his skill is otherworldly.
KP farkin G E N I U S.

the problem is, the new bats have now made him merely superior. Previously he was like Warnie, he was playing a different game
 
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blackcat said:
42x16ss said:
I'm going to say the same thing I said last summer.

When will the English selectors pull their heads out of their collective ar$es and just recall Pietersen? He put on an absolute masterclass (76 off 42) last night on a failing green top, in a losing side. Once again, it was just controlled, orthodox strokes, with perfect timing and raw power including 3 sixes and a four off one over from one of Australia's very best young up and coming quicks (Sandhu). West Indian international Andre Russell also went the journey. His straight drive was directly out of the textbook.

FFS he was even better than Khawaja and Faulkner, his skill is otherworldly.
KP farkin G E N I U S.

the problem is, the new bats have now made him merely superior. Previously he was like Warnie, he was playing a different game
Kumar Sangakkara! :eek:

Consummate superstar.
 
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blackcat said:
42x16ss said:
Kumar Sangakkara! :eek:

Consummate superstar.
Kumar is no KP
but he can Sledge with more brio and elan than any antipode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlFF98dM8sA
Kumar is a slightly different player to KP. He wasn't the best bat last night - that was Tim Paine - but he hit 40 something off 30 and barely even broke a sweat, he still had two or three gears left. He almost looked bored.

If he didn't decide to start inventing shots he'd still be out there. Him, KP and possibly Ponting - best of their generation by a mile. Sangakkara is still underrated by many Australians.
 
While its too early in the series to draw too many conclusions im shocked at how poor South Africa were, I admit I didn't see a lot of their capitulation in India but I thought they would be much better on home soil. It also looks like Steyn will miss the Cape Town test which is another blow, but its the batting that is a big worry.

While the England batting line-up still looks a little vunerable they at least have guys like Compton, Root, Taylor and Bairstow who should score consistent runs. Putting 2 competitive totals on the board without Cook scoring many is a big plus too. With Jimmy Anderson looking likely to return it is good news all round for English cricket.
 
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42x16ss said:
blackcat said:
42x16ss said:
Kumar Sangakkara! :eek:

Consummate superstar.
Kumar is no KP
but he can Sledge with more brio and elan than any antipode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlFF98dM8sA
Kumar is a slightly different player to KP. He wasn't the best bat last night - that was Tim Paine - but he hit 40 something off 30 and barely even broke a sweat, he still had two or three gears left. He almost looked bored.

If he didn't decide to start inventing shots he'd still be out there. Him, KP and possibly Ponting - best of their generation by a mile. Sangakkara is still underrated by many Australians.
VVS was good too
 
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Pricey_sky said:
While its too early in the series to draw too many conclusions im shocked at how poor South Africa were, I admit I didn't see a lot of their capitulation in India but I thought they would be much better on home soil. It also looks like Steyn will miss the Cape Town test which is another blow, but its the batting that is a big worry.

While the England batting line-up still looks a little vunerable they at least have guys like Compton, Root, Taylor and Bairstow who should score consistent runs. Putting 2 competitive totals on the board without Cook scoring many is a big plus too. With Jimmy Anderson looking likely to return it is good news all round for English cricket.
Apparently Steve Finn went on a rampage yesterday, was he rewarded through good pressure from the others, poor batting or did he bowl particularly well?
 
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42x16ss said:
Pricey_sky said:
While its too early in the series to draw too many conclusions im shocked at how poor South Africa were, I admit I didn't see a lot of their capitulation in India but I thought they would be much better on home soil. It also looks like Steyn will miss the Cape Town test which is another blow, but its the batting that is a big worry.

While the England batting line-up still looks a little vunerable they at least have guys like Compton, Root, Taylor and Bairstow who should score consistent runs. Putting 2 competitive totals on the board without Cook scoring many is a big plus too. With Jimmy Anderson looking likely to return it is good news all round for English cricket.
Apparently Steve Finn went on a rampage yesterday, was he rewarded through good pressure from the others, poor batting or did he bowl particularly well?
To be honest I've always been a fan of Finn, yes he can be expensive but he takes wickets. England have Broad and Anderson who are economical so Finn must be used as the impact bowler.

He bowled well in the first test and produced a great couple of spells on days 4/5 on what was a tough wicket to get anything out of. If Anderson returns tomorrow I hope it's for Woakes, I don't think Woakes is quite up to test match cricket yet.
 
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Good to see Jimmy back hopefully we can make it two nil but would like to see a more competitive match than the last test.
 
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Interesting first day in Cape Town, just edged by England but if South Africa can restrict us to under 400 then they are right in the game. Good to see the West Indies doing better today and building on their last innings.
 
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Pricey_sky said:
42x16ss said:
Pricey_sky said:
While its too early in the series to draw too many conclusions im shocked at how poor South Africa were, I admit I didn't see a lot of their capitulation in India but I thought they would be much better on home soil. It also looks like Steyn will miss the Cape Town test which is another blow, but its the batting that is a big worry.

While the England batting line-up still looks a little vunerable they at least have guys like Compton, Root, Taylor and Bairstow who should score consistent runs. Putting 2 competitive totals on the board without Cook scoring many is a big plus too. With Jimmy Anderson looking likely to return it is good news all round for English cricket.
Apparently Steve Finn went on a rampage yesterday, was he rewarded through good pressure from the others, poor batting or did he bowl particularly well?
To be honest I've always been a fan of Finn, yes he can be expensive but he takes wickets. England have Broad and Anderson who are economical so Finn must be used as the impact bowler.

He bowled well in the first test and produced a great couple of spells on days 4/5 on what was a tough wicket to get anything out of. If Anderson returns tomorrow I hope it's for Woakes, I don't think Woakes is quite up to test match cricket yet.
Just wondering, because Finn is quick and has venom, but looked to lack control and patience when I've seen him in the past - a bit like a young Mitchell Johnson before he worked with Dennis Lillee.

IMHO Woakes has had far too many opportunities to show if he's test standard. He's close but not quite there, I'd drop him for Anderson as well. Good ODI player though.
 

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