Critérium du Dauphiné 2012 187km Stage 1 Seyssins → Saint-Vallier

[mb2612]

Pointless discussion, but still no reason to try and cite an outlier as the best piece of evidence available. He has needed to do his best in lots of time trials, and very few have been that good.

Sure, but when one is arguing that Sanchez isn't going to lose 3 min to Wiggins, you cite the TT where he beat Evans, not the one where he lost 90 seconds to him.

Or the one he won this year in his previous goal this season.

 

[nesocip]

This is the one you want to look at, where he really needed the time:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=14048

Look, i remember all his TTs since he became a contender, including wins on flat TTs, no need to throw links at me now. He is my favorite rider after all.

He is a good TTer, especially in late stages of tours when recovery kicks in more then pure power, but there is too much TTing in this year's tour for him to do better then 5th place in the end. You always gotta count on him missing some split on insignificant stages where it takes a strong rouleur teammates to establish position, lose like 1:30 there, lose 3 in the tts, climb with the best and there you are, 4 mins down at 5thish place in the end.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yeah season m over for Samu, unless he can win worlds and i can't see him winning worlds. and turning 35 next year, well this could be a quiet end to a career right here.

ugh. you are such a drama queen as always. sure you don't have a vagina instead of a penis?

 

[Unkown]

ugh. you are such a drama queen as always. sure you don't have a vagina instead of a penis?

Ryo strikes again!

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Sure, but when one is arguing that Sanchez isn't going to lose 3 min to Wiggins, you cite the TT where he beat Evans, not the one where he lost 90 seconds to him.

Or the one he won this year in his previous goal this season.

Fair enough. All moot anyway, and yesterday didn't exactly suggest he was flying before the crash.


Wiggins sprint victory nailed on today then?

 

[jens_attacks]

crash again .......pfffff damn it

dan martin nooo

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Gerrans & Dan Martin down

 

[nesocip]

Fair enough. All moot anyway, and yesterday didn't exactly suggest he was flying before the crash.


Wiggins sprint victory nailed on today then?

He always takes Dauphine easy and hits Tour in top form, so his performance yesterday is completely irrelevant.

 

[markene2]

Nasty crash by Martin

 

[Mellow Velo]

Dan Martin looks down and maybe out.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Dan looks in trouble (collarbone ?)

 

[jens_attacks]

hope the collarbone is fine.
le tour is getting weaker day by day

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

oh damn. not martin again

 

[webvan]

Jaja feared a broken collarbone...seems ok...or not.

 

[goggalor]

ugh. you are such a drama queen as always. sure you don't have a vagina instead of a penis?

You're a classy guy.

 

[Trofinios]

D Martin in pain, hope collarbone is fine.

 

[jens_attacks]

cadel:"don't pull,phil can't win this"

 

[goggalor]

Evans doing a good Phil impression there.

 

[markene2]

cadel:"don't pull,phil can't win this"

lol

10(char)

 

[jens_attacks]

gerrans brought back now

 

[The Hitch]

ugh. you are such a drama queen as always. sure you don't have a vagina instead of a penis?

That's a bit sexist for a internet forum with both male and female readers, no?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

That's a bit sexist for a internet forum with both male and female readers, no?

for me is normal to say such things. and where I;m from people can usually laugh at it

 

[jens_attacks]

the untouchable war machines!_O_

grande chavanel!
definitely he will go for the win

 

[taiwan]

He would have lost 3 - 4 mins on Wiggins in TTs, and thats a lot of time to make up on few selective stages there are.

Let's not give Wiggins the jersey yet. Sanchez: a) is one of the better TTists of the legit GC riders b) is a better climber and descender than Wiggins which you probably agree and c) has a better record at the Tour.

Wiggins still has to confirm his potential in the Tour. People are jumping the gun. Gives me the chance to smugly point it out though =)

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

That's a bit sexist for a internet forum with both male and female readers, no?

Nope, just an insult. To be honest, in modern day life I can't imagine anyway being offended terribly at this. I laughed a little

Ryo will probably get banned again tho

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Sucks for Martin hope he is ok