Critérium du Dauphiné 2023, June 4 - 11

[houtdffan]

Yeah, it's become much softer since ASO took charge

it's basically become paris-nice 2.0. The races are now very similar with both having 1-2 high mountain stages (only difference is PN is in the southern Alps while CDD is in the northern Alps), a few hilly stages, a decent TT, then flat trash

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Bastille of Grenoble was a career defining moment for Bernard Hinault. He crashed on the descent of the Col de Porte and was still able to win at the Bastille.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDo11b0rFo


Was also one of the few races, where Merckx and Hinault raced against each other for the victory.

Didn’t realize the Bastille was that steep. That is one hell of a wall to go bike up.

 

[skippo12]

Almost feels like Jayco is trying to punish Groenewegen and his teammates. Wonder if they have learned anything from last years master class. Chase all day. Try to bring Groenewegen back after he was dropped on a minor climb. Only to be dropped again.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Even though the field is strong it's hard to look past Vingegaard when it comes to the GC. In theory stage 7 is well suited to his attack but I think he can perform his most spectacular ride on stage 8, maybe a long solo that will make another subforum shatter (last 58 km are crazy).

 

[Pinot's goat]

Almost feels like Jayco is trying to punish Groenewegen and his teammates. Wonder if they have learned anything from last years master class. Chase all day. Try to bring Groenewegen back after he was dropped on a minor climb. Only to be dropped again.

Groenewegen managed to make it over some climbs at the Tour when you would not expect it because of the hard kms at the Dauphine. It's a good decision to send him here. It will also make time cuts easier for him at the Tour.

 

[AlfaLum]

Curious if Gaudu can reach his Paris-Nice level again!

 

[BR2]

I think this race can be great fun.

 

[Blanco]

And the Belgian Bugno could win 5-6 stages, if he raced this one instead of the TdS.

Yeah, and Pogacar could win all 8 stages...

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Almost feels like Jayco is trying to punish Groenewegen and his teammates. Wonder if they have learned anything from last years master class. Chase all day. Try to bring Groenewegen back after he was dropped on a minor climb. Only to be dropped again.

Jayco saw Dainese win a Giro stage after TOTA and Romandie and realised that the best GT build-up for your sprinter is racing only climbers race

 

[Lequack]

Can Vingegaard win every stage?

 

[StryderHells]

Can Vingegaard win every stage?

No

 

[Mayomaniac]

Curious to see at what level Ciccone is after his covid related break. During the spring he was perhaps the best version of himself that we've seen so far.

 

[rghysens]

No

4 or 5 must be possible, though (if he goes for it)

 

[Lequack]

What if Carapaz wins it?

 

[yaco]

Almost feels like Jayco is trying to punish Groenewegen and his teammates. Wonder if they have learned anything from last years master class. Chase all day. Try to bring Groenewegen back after he was dropped on a minor climb. Only to be dropped again.

It's Groenewegen who wants to ride Dauphine - The leaders at Jayco always choose their program - He's also riding Slovenia, however that seems to have three sprint stages - Personally, I'd have him ride the Brussels Classic and the ZLM tour, instead of overworking team-mates for one possible final which is stage one, but I am not Groenewegen.

 

[Lequack]

Notable contenders

 

[titan31]

It's Groenewegen who wants to ride Dauphine - The leaders at Jayco always choose their program - He's also riding Slovenia, however that seems to have three sprint stages - Personally, I'd have him ride the Brussels Classic and the ZLM tour, instead of overworking team-mates for one possible final which is stage one, but I am not Groenewegen.

Stage 1 looks too difficult for him really. Surely one team will attack those climbs. I'd be looking at Laporte or Hayter if it goes to a sprint

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Notable contenders

funny how the only 2 people who challenged vinegaard on climbs this season aren't there

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Notable contenders

No Mas, Landa or Gaudu on that one, but at least we have Juanpe because he‘s worn the Maglia Rosa and De Gendt because he‘s at the verge of being written off so he‘s going to win soon.

 

[Escarabajo]

Notable contenders

More like participants instead of contenders.

 

[Tonton]

Curious if Gaudu can reach his Paris-Nice level again!

He needs to. Otherwise, the team will not put all of their chips on him in July. The French public loves Pinot. Sponsors want him, sell him, like it or not, Tibopino is the best gift to French cycling since Virenque,

Bottom line: David needs a great performance this week. Be competitive in the ITT. Make the team and the sponsors believe: he has a lot at stake.

 

[yaco]

Stage 1 looks too difficult for him really. Surely one team will attack those climbs. I'd be looking at Laporte or Hayter if it goes to a sprint

Stage three is the best opportunity.

 

[StryderHells]

It's Groenewegen who wants to ride Dauphine - The leaders at Jayco always choose their program - He's also riding Slovenia, however that seems to have three sprint stages - Personally, I'd have him ride the Brussels Classic and the ZLM tour, instead of overworking team-mates for one possible final which is stage one, but I am not Groenewegen.

Jayco aren’t riding ZLM tour.

 

[Rob5091]

Tonton rightly points out that Gaudu has to perform or voices will be raised. Bernal has a similar problem. UAE to sit on Vingegaard's wheel all week to see how he's doing.

 

[Aimar16]

Is there a reason why the bookies don't rate Mas highly here?