Critérium du Dauphiné 2024, June 2 - 9

[Krzysztof_O]

Rogla stomps again! Remco accelerating backwards on the climb.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I'm so confused. Is the stage already over for today?!

No worries, it's barely 8am in my area... and not only did I miss out on today's French Open Ladies' final, but I also missed out on the Dauphine stage.

For those who had watched Dauphine - was the scenery at least halfway respectable?

 

[Gratemans]

No worries, it's barely 8am in my area... and not only did I miss out on today's French Open Ladies' final, but I also missed out on the Dauphine stage.

For those who had watched Dauphine - was the scenery at least halfway respectable?

It sure as hell beat the Star ZLM Tour, but that's not saying much.

 

[Karl Merckx]

Sepp Kuss 16 minutes down.

It's one thing having bad legs or doing a slow build-up to the Tour... but this is another thing entirely. You don't even get 'training' in the legs doing that sort of gruppetto ride.

There's something very off this season & he's getting worse.

I'm sure he was in training mode, and the stage before the final climb was enough training for the day.

 

[Salvarani]

No worries, it's barely 8am in my area... and not only did I miss out on today's French Open Ladies' final, but I also missed out on the Dauphine stage.

For those who had watched Dauphine - was the scenery at least halfway respectable?

It rained and Remco covered half of the screen.

 

[ManicJack]

I'm sure he was in training mode, and the stage before the final climb was enough training for the day.

It was said yesterday that he had been sick for a while and his training volume has been way down for a couple weeks.

 

[topt]

Yeah, Landa who got outclimbed by Gee, Lazkano, Romo and my grandma, should totally be able to ride for him self at the TDF. He might actually outclimb Gaudu!

and you think Remco will do better ?

 

[topt]

Second day in a row - not impressed by Roglic. All this 4 big man race for July was a complete nonsense. Rogla can barely beat Jonas's second last man. What a joke!

I understand Rogla but who is the 4th guy ?

 

[Gigs_98]

1. Memes about postman celebration are not a claim it was a great stage.

2. I mainly contest the implicit assumption Roglic could have just attacked and won today. I think its much more likely he would have lost the stage.

3. Similarly, Pogacar mainly relies on his uphill sprint against Vingegaard, the only rider who he cant just rofldrop with his eyes closed. I just argue, that if you actually put the riders in the same context where you take away the fact that Pog just had more watts, they are more alike than many would admit

If they were similarily strong they would probably be more alike than most would admit. But they are not and consequently race very differently. And since that difference is what we see on screen, it shouldn't come as a surprise that people show very different reactions to this race compared to some giro stages.

If you got criticized for liking his celebration though then those people aree fools. The postman celebrates like he is supposed to do.

 

[Salvarani]

1. Memes about postman celebration are not a claim it was a great stage.

2. I mainly contest the implicit assumption Roglic could have just attacked and won today. I think its much more likely he would have lost the stage.

3. Similarly, Pogacar mainly relies on his uphill sprint against Vingegaard, the only rider who he cant just rofldrop with his eyes closed. I just argue, that if you actually put the riders in the same context where you take away the fact that Pog just had more watts, they are more alike than many would admit

They are not alike at all in style or abilities as riders. They are actually so far from each other, which isnt a slight to either.

That narrative just doesnt hold up at all.

 

[Sciatic]

Ya, for their talent, outside of Denz, Bora's doms haven't done much here.

Vlasov hasn’t? Or are you not calling him a dom?

 

[tobydawq]

3. Similarly, Pogacar mainly relies on his uphill sprint against Vingegaard, the only rider who he cant just rofldrop with his eyes closed. I just argue, that if you actually put the riders in the same context where you take away the fact that Pog just had more watts, they are more alike than many would admit

This is again ignoring all the times Pogacar did attack Vingegaard from distance.

 

[hfer07]

Another win for Roglic, another spectacular performance by Vlasov.

looks like Primoz has secured his trusted teammate

 

[Tim Cahill]

Potentially good news for races to come that UAE and Jumbo's Tour teams look in pretty average form sans Jorgenson and I assume Yates will come good in Suisse.

Not saying they're bad or anything far from it, just that neither team looks two levels above the rest like they usually do and I can't really see either of them dominating the race.

 

[AmRacer]

I understand Rogla but who is the 4th guy ?

Bernal

 

[JosefK]

Another Roglstomp today, except this one is kind of an old-man-Rog stomp with a little arthritis and maybe a bad back. Fans want to see Rog go thermonuclear, but he doesn't have a Tsar-Bomba in the arsenal like Pog. Rog's last nuke strike was the Giro 2023 final TT, and that was just a megaton or so. Pog is like the T1000 terminator in Terminator 2, and Rog is like the Ahhnold terminator in that film ... a little less high-tech, not as many crazy capabilities as the T1000, but still a powerful heart.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Another Roglstomp today, except this one is kind of an old-man-Rog stomp with a little arthritis and maybe a bad back. Fans want to see Rog go thermonuclear, but he doesn't have a Tsar-Bomba in the arsenal like Pog. Rog's last nuke strike was the Giro 2023 final TT, and that was just a megaton or so. Pog is like the T1000 terminator in Terminator 2, and Rog is like the Ahhnold terminator in that film ... a little less high-tech, not as many crazy capabilities as the T1000, but still a powerful heart.

You skipped the most important thing: T-800 defeated T-1000 at the end!

 

[Unchained]

GC Kuss is obviously sandbagging in preparation for laying down the gauntlet at the Tour.

The only thing Kuss is doing out in the open is riding like he doesn't want that pesky leadership role. Won't need to worry about King Plugge having a big round table meeting " everyone is working for Sepp, we are all in".

 

[Unchained]

Yes, you completely missed it. Remco completely crushed the competition in his weight class.

Would be funny, instead of Remco cooling down on a stationary trainer, if he started punching a heavy bag and jumping rope!! Completely crushed is accurate, just he had it happen instead of dealing out the punishment. He is going to say everything is fine, but he won't eat dinner or breakfast and will be seeing a haunting vision of the back of Roglic's shorts vanishing in the distance. Soler hates everyone also

 

[Rackham]

Another Roglstomp today, except this one is kind of an old-man-Rog stomp with a little arthritis and maybe a bad back. Fans want to see Rog go thermonuclear, but he doesn't have a Tsar-Bomba in the arsenal like Pog. Rog's last nuke strike was the Giro 2023 final TT, and that was just a megaton or so. Pog is like the T1000 terminator in Terminator 2, and Rog is like the Ahhnold terminator in that film ... a little less high-tech, not as many crazy capabilities as the T1000, but still a powerful heart.

Arnold always won, especially against the odds. I can live with that comparison.

The only time he lost was in his 1984 villain arc (ironically when at his strongest).

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I understand Rogla but who is the 4th guy ?

Derek Gee

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Would be funny, instead of Remco cooling down on a stationary trainer, if he started punching a heavy bag and jumping rope!! Completely crushed is accurate, just he had it happen instead of dealing out the punishment. He is going to say everything is fine, but he won't eat dinner or breakfast and will be seeing a haunting vision of the back of Roglic's shorts vanishing in the distance. Soler hates everyone also

There was a slow motion replay of Evenepoel tapping Soler's butt when passing him. Commentators said he was congratulating Soler for his ride. While it was painfully obvious he was just checking to see how fat Soler was.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I just watched the replay, despite the wet roads here and there the scenery was more than magnificent!

Also, chapeau Rogla.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

It’s been a little bit since I’ve enjoyed Roglic this much.

 

[Froome]

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