Critérium du Dauphiné May 30-June 6 2021

[perico]

Padun crushed all life on earth, he destroyed Kuss!
Maybe Movistar should have used Mas to set a hard pace in the gc group so that MAL could attack a bit later, but if they did that people would make fun of them for helping out Lutsenko.
At least they tried something and Mas let Porte do all the work before.

People look for excuses to dog on Movistars lack of coherent strategy. Even when they do something that actually looks like a pretty good idea, it’s a Movifail.

 

[limak_]

Padun crushed all life on earth, he destroyed Kuss!
Maybe Movistar should have used Mas to set a hard pace in the gc group so that MAL could attack a bit later, but if they did that people would make fun of them for helping out Lutsenko.
At least they tried something and Mas let Porte do all the work before.

When they attacked initially there were Ineos, JV, Bahrian at the front so Movistar probably felt obliged to have someone up there as well. Then people whined about Mas not working with Porte, which was rather wise from him, knowing that he has his leader (Lopez) behind while Porte rode more for himself (altough G didn't loose that much in the end).

 

[tobydawq]

So, when do people accept that Kuss' suffering face is the same as his chill face instead of always ridiculing him when he is dropped?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Tomorrow will be great, I enjoyed todays MTF. Mas and Loepz needs to go early on Joux Plane!

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Ouch, Van Wilder dropping 10.45 - he's gotta be ill or something?

 

[BlueRoads]

So, when do people accept that Kuss' suffering face is the same as his chill face instead of always ridiculing him when he is dropped?

Ridiculing? It's what I love most about him!

 

[Tobi]

Padun seems like a really likeable guy happy he got this win

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ouch, Van Wilder dropping 10.45 - he's gotta be ill or something?

he was also good in the time trial but bad uphill in Romandie. I'm starting to think he is not much of a climber (yet). Not at this level anyway

 

[JosefK]

Pogi is quaking in his boots! . . . or not

 

[Mayomaniac]

Thomas was also not as strong as expected, near the top of the climb he looked worse than Lutsenko.
Yes, he did his classic surge at the end, but he looked vulnerable.
Richie + Richard as the leaders for the Tour?

 

[BlueRoads]

Thomas was also not as strong as expected, near the top of the climb he looked worse than Lutsenko.
Yes, he did his classic surge at the end, but he looked vulnerable.
Richie + Richard as the leaders for the Tour?

They will call them Richie Rich, I suppose?

Indeed, this looked like a very good climb for Thomas and he wasn't great.

 

[JosefK]

In the year when G won the Tour, he was crushing everyone in races like this.

 

[Red Rick]

So, when do people accept that Kuss' suffering face is the same as his chill face instead of always ridiculing him when he is dropped?

No Kuss is always riding super easy because if we stopped overrating him we'd have less reason to *** on Jumbo tactics.

 

[ice&fire]

Tomorrow will be great, I enjoyed todays MTF. Mas and Loepz needs to go early on Joux Plane!

Lopez definitely needs a head start for that descent

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Both Valgren and Bjerg saying in their exit interviews, that there was a lot of anger in the peloton - and it was one of the reasons they were kept on a tight leash - because they had attacked while a lot of riders were doing a pee break in the peloton.

 

[JosefK]

Thomas was also not as strong as expected, near the top of the climb he looked worse than Lutsenko.
Yes, he did his classic surge at the end, but he looked vulnerable.
Richie + Richard as the leaders for the Tour?

G worse than Porte in the TT. G worse than Porte on the big climb.

 

[MartinGT]

Thomas was also not as strong as expected, near the top of the climb he looked worse than Lutsenko.
Yes, he did his classic surge at the end, but he looked vulnerable.
Richie + Richard as the leaders for the Tour?

Brian Smith will say he let the wheel go on purpose #fanboy

 

[Red Rick]

Thomas was also not as strong as expected, near the top of the climb he looked worse than Lutsenko.
Yes, he did his classic surge at the end, but he looked vulnerable.
Richie + Richard as the leaders for the Tour?

No reason not to keep all 3 safe until the Alps. I think none of the 3 are good enough for Ineos leadership at the Tour at this rate.

 

[movingtarget]

Nice rides by Haig and O'Connor. Great win by Padun and Porte is climbing as well as anyone. Thomas looks flat. Lutsenko fighting hard and Kelderman was Kelderman as was SK who fought back after getting dropped early. Seems to be a thing with him.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Padun Now we're just awaiting the guy who wasn't the least surprised that Lutsenko won the ITT to come in here and say that this was an expected result.

Also, Kuss has got to be the most overrated rider in the peloton.

 

[Red Rick]

Okay if the big plan of Movistar was to go for MAL today, then I think it was a clear mistake for him to not directly react to Portes attack because I think if Thomas had been feeling it they simply would've ridden for him.

 

[JosefK]

No Kuss is always riding super easy because if we stopped overrating him we'd have less reason to *** on Jumbo tactics.

Yes. Kuss is a domestique, and he knows it. He'll have a few excellent stages in a grand tour, but he'll also have days when he's off, maybe way off. I don't see him as a 3-week GC guy.

 

[dusty red roads]

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Porte is Ineos' best at the tour, and even more if he wins it - poor guy getting thrown into a leader position when he just wants to be a domestique!

 

[Vasilis]

In the year when G won the Tour, he was crushing everyone in races like this.

Meh, "races like this" is probably an exaggeration, he was good in Tirreno but meh at best in Romandie. Yes then he won the Dauphiné of course, and he might have looked better then, but now he was also caught in a tactical game with Porte up the road riding into yellow. At the finish he was actually the first of rider of the group that he was in today. It might just have been his form on the day as well, but unless he gets dropped big time tomorrow I don't think we can draw too many conclusions.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

he was also good in the time trial but bad uphill in Romandie. I'm starting to think he is not much of a climber (yet). Not at this level anyway

He's climbing worse than last year. If you look at his torso, it's clear he's also carrying too much weight. He used to be a swimmer, so that might explain that, but today was just not normal, he got dropped at the start of the climb while the peloton was still 70 guys. DSM completely screwed up his early season, and my faith in them is nearly non-existent.