Criterium du Dauphine (2.UWT), 3-10 June

[yaco]

My guess is assuming Sky win the TTT, then there will be two teams within a minute, another 6 teams from 1 to 2 minutes and the rest nowhere

 

[Salvarani]

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This will be a long week for non-Sky sympathetics. Again.

Used to it by now...

Might not even watch the TdF if they bring Thomas, Kwiat, Froome, Bernal, Moscon, Poels, Castro... like whats the point in even watching?

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

This will be a long week for non-Sky sympathetics. Again.

Used to it by now...

Might not even watch the TdF if they bring Thomas, Kwiat, Froome, Bernal, Moscon, Poels, Castro... like whats the point in even watching?

That Froome might not be good enough after the Giro and no matter how strong his team is, it won't matter if doesn't have the legs himself.

I think it's unlikely he will win.

Just think about how Contador crumbled in the Tour the two times he tried for the double. Why should it be any different for Froome? Basic laws of physiology also apply to him.

 

[Salvarani]

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This will be a long week for non-Sky sympathetics. Again.

Used to it by now...

Might not even watch the TdF if they bring Thomas, Kwiat, Froome, Bernal, Moscon, Poels, Castro... like whats the point in even watching?

That Froome might not be good enough after the Giro and no matter how strong his team is, it won't matter if doesn't have the legs himself.

I think it's unlikely he will win.

Just think about how Contador crumbled in the Tour the two times he tried for the double. Why should it be any different for Froome? Basic laws of physiology also apply to him.

My point was just that they will probably dominate with that team, just like the poster I responded to alluded with what we will be seeing this week in Dauphine...

All the other things you talked about I dont wanna talk about here because I have a lot of opinions on Froome and Sky in general that aint suited here.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

 

[Gigs_98]

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The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

Yeah if Froome is as strong as in previous editions this race is over before it even began. His team is just getting stronger every freakin year

 

[rick james]

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The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

you think after that Giro Froome will still have the legs?

 

[Robert5091]

Tomorrow's stage - stage 1: Valence - Saint-Just-Saint-Rambert 179 km
Starts with a 9km long Cat 2 climb - no more Cat 2's until Thursday!

 

[Angliru]

Re: Re:

The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

you think after that Giro Froome will still have the legs?

I wouldn't be surprised. He allowed himself to recover from his crash injuries enough that he dropped everyone on Zoncolan. He then allowed himself to recover on the very next stage without blowing up and stayed within contention. He coasted through the season leading up to the Gjro. He has an entire month to recover. I'll be on my bike in July anticipating a repeat of last year Tour. If I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be, I can watch highlights on YouTube.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Apparently GT could have won it. But there is one more "if".
No doubt he crashed because had took the curve too agressively. If he hadn't - he would have lost some seconds on such narrow (6) curves - how many seconds - nobody knew.

And what was most interesting - Bardet 1 sec better than Nibali .

 

[rick james]

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The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

you think after that Giro Froome will still have the legs?

I wouldn't be surprised. He allowed himself to recover from his crash injuries enough that he dropped everyone on Zoncolan. He then allowed himself to recover on the very next stage without blowing up and stayed within contention. He coasted through the season leading up to the Gjro. He has an entire month to recover. I'll be on my bike in July anticipating a repeat of last year Tour. If I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be, I can watch highlights on YouTube.

happy cycling

 

[Angliru]

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The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

you think after that Giro Froome will still have the legs?

I wouldn't be surprised. He allowed himself to recover from his crash injuries enough that he dropped everyone on Zoncolan. He then allowed himself to recover on the very next stage without blowing up and stayed within contention. He coasted through the season leading up to the Gjro. He has an entire month to recover. I'll be on my bike in July anticipating a repeat of last year Tour. If I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be, I can watch highlights on YouTube.

happy cycling

Thanks. You too

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Re: Re:

This will be a long week for non-Sky sympathetics. Again.

Used to it by now...

Might not even watch the TdF if they bring Thomas, Kwiat, Froome, Bernal, Moscon, Poels, Castro... like whats the point in even watching?

That Froome might not be good enough after the Giro and no matter how strong his team is, it won't matter if doesn't have the legs himself.

I think it's unlikely he will win.

Just think about how Contador crumbled in the Tour the two times he tried for the double. Why should it be any different for Froome? Basic laws of physiology also apply to him.

I think Froome is very likely to win it. His peak in 2nd part of 3rd week was enough to win Giro. The question might be not Froome's recovery but Froome's sustaining with Finestre's shape. But I'm quite optimistic.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Have you played this quiz? I scored 48/69. Those early French winners are hard...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/quiz-can-you-name-every-criterium-du-dauphine-winner/

 

[Sciatic]

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It's funny (not that Thomas crashed). I was just thinking of Thomas crashing, right before it happened, because he looked like he was taking the curves way too agressively

I felt it coming too.

On the reply you can see he was starting to change his line slightly right before or at the apex of the curve. Maybe the pros have no problem with that, but If I try to change the line on a fast, tight turn at the apex I don’t feel like I have the same grip on the road as I do if I hold tight to the line and then start to correct after the apex.

 

[MartinGT]

Impey?

 

[MartinGT]

In fact what about Alaphilipe for tomorrow or isn't it difficult for him?

 

[Laplaz]

Yeah, could be good for Impey or maybe also Coquard I guess...

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.cyclingstage.com/criterium-du-dauphine-2018/stage-1-route-cdd-2018/
Following a rolling section of over 50 kilometres, containing the Côte de Terrière (1.6 kilometres at 6.3%), the riders tackle the Côte de La Croix de Marlet. This 2.2 kilometres hill at 4.7% is crested with 40 kilometres to go. Some 11 kilometres further down the road the riders enter a circuit and they cross the finish line for the first time 4 kilometres later.

Amounting to 12.2 kilometres, the closing circuit is raced two time. This local round features the climb to the Grangent reservoir (1.3 kilometres at 4.5%), which therefore is included twice. The last time over the top is with 4 kilometres to go.

Alaphilippe could be a good bet, or Kwia, Moscon & G could come first, second and third!

 

[Squire]

I think that hill will only drop the Kittels and Pelucchis.

 

[ppanther92]

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Have you played this quiz? I scored 48/69. Those early French winners are hard...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/quiz-can-you-name-every-criterium-du-dauphine-winner/

32, all since 1993, but serious deficits at the winners before.

 

[b.broadhurst]

Sky at the Tour is just going to be ridiculous!

Froome Thomas Kwiatkowski Moscon Bernal Poels Van Baarle Castroviejo

Rowe & Stannard as back up rouleurs!

 

[ferryman]

Shame for Thomas as I'm sure he would have won that or been very close. Was an interesting crash (if any crashes can be interesting) in that he jarred his shoulder backwards with an extended arm. Not seen that too often and not at all sure what that may mean for recovery. I'm going to guess he will bee feeling muscles he never knew had to tonight and tomorrow. Hope he can continue, not least to see how much Sky win the TTT by

 

[movingtarget]

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The most boring scenario would be if Froome was as strong as last year and therefore just will use all of his insane team to control the mountains without being able to do much himself. And then rely on the TTT and ITT.

The best scenario would be if Froome was suspended and Sky had quadruple leadership.

I still think the double even for Froome, with the Giro in his legs will be too much for him. The team can help of course but only up to a point. Last year he was fresh going into the Tour but he was still under pressure on some stages. If Froome wins the Tour as well I will be stunned. I don't think the extra one week break will mean much. The key to the Tour could be Bardet. He knows he has to be aggressive and other GC riders have to be willing to work with him or to use Bardet's attacks to counter attack Sky after the chase. Bardet couldn't find enough allies last year. Movistar also have to make some big decisions and get their tactics right.

 

[The Barb]

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I think that hill will only drop the Kittels and Pelucchis.

Agree. Even Bauhaus has a chance of getting over.

Still, I say Keukeleire for the win.