Criterium du Dauphine (2.UWT), 3-10 June

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tobydawq said:
bob.a.feet said:
tobydawq said:
Two of Thomas' pro wins have come in France. The overall of Paris-Nice and the overall of Dauphiné.

What could be the third?
TDF 2017 stage 1

Last I checked, Düsseldorf was in Germany.
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Bye Bye Bicycle said:
Yeah, Golf at least has some nice scenery sometimes...
I always find it funny when cycling fans make fun of other big sports because they think they are boring and don't deserve the attention. If a football fan does that I'm not surprised but cycling fans should know better.
 
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Jagartrott said:
DNP-Old said:
I like riders who use their brain, yes.
He was 100% lucky that Navarro cracked completely. He didn't use his brain, otherwise he'd attacked earlier to make sure he won. ***** victory.

No. He was smart, and he was strong, that's why he won. He know perfectly where Navarro is, that's why he set the tempo to reach Buchmann, and get closer to Navarro with 2km to go, and then he waited and waited for Bardet to make a move and then countered. GC was out of reach, and he knew that, that's why he set his sights on the stage win, and he executed that perfectly.
 
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Alexandre B. said:
Flamin said:
Alexandre B. said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-sky-ag2r-clash-over-thomas-puncture-at-criterium-du-dauphine/
My dislike for buddy-buddies Sky and Mitchelton grow stronger.

What's wrong with that reaction? :eek:
That's an outright lie.

What is? That they started "sprinting"? That's pretty much how I saw it. They knew something was going on and accelerated from that moment.
 
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hazaran said:
Blanco said:
Not much of destroying today? :rolleyes: And it will be much worse at Le Tour.

It will be, given that Thomas is only using this race as a tune up and couldn't care less. It was him training and the others going full pedal to the metal, the conclusive proof is him being dropped on the mountain.

Yeah, of course. Geraint said it himself: "Dauphine victory is the biggest of my career." :lol:
 
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Blanco said:
hazaran said:
Blanco said:
Not much of destroying today? :rolleyes: And it will be much worse at Le Tour.

It will be, given that Thomas is only using this race as a tune up and couldn't care less. It was him training and the others going full pedal to the metal, the conclusive proof is him being dropped on the mountain.

Yeah, of course. Geraint said it himself: "Dauphine victory is the biggest of my career." :lol:
I'm fairly sure hazaran was being ironic, mocking the idea that Bardet, Martin & co. (and maybe some guy called Vincenzo) are all way off Tour form, while Thomas is in the best form he can possibly achieve already.
 
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Blanco said:
Jagartrott said:
DNP-Old said:
I like riders who use their brain, yes.
He was 100% lucky that Navarro cracked completely. He didn't use his brain, otherwise he'd attacked earlier to make sure he won. ***** victory.

No. He was smart, and he was strong, that's why he won. He know perfectly where Navarro is, that's why he set the tempo to reach Buchmann, and get closer to Navarro with 2km to go, and then he waited and waited for Bardet to make a move and then countered. GC was out of reach, and he knew that, that's why he set his sights on the stage win, and he executed that perfectly.
Did you actually see the stage?
Navarro had about 150 m advantage according to the broadcast at less than 400 m to go. Which meant that the only way Yates could win was if (a) he had a lot left in the tank AND (b) Navarro cracked. No way, and I mean NO WAY that this would've happened yesterday with Bilbao. Hence, Yates wasn't smart, he was lucky.
 
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Jagartrott said:
Blanco said:
Jagartrott said:
DNP-Old said:
I like riders who use their brain, yes.
He was 100% lucky that Navarro cracked completely. He didn't use his brain, otherwise he'd attacked earlier to make sure he won. ***** victory.

No. He was smart, and he was strong, that's why he won. He know perfectly where Navarro is, that's why he set the tempo to reach Buchmann, and get closer to Navarro with 2km to go, and then he waited and waited for Bardet to make a move and then countered. GC was out of reach, and he knew that, that's why he set his sights on the stage win, and he executed that perfectly.
Did you actually see the stage?
Navarro had about 150 m advantage according to the broadcast at less than 400 m to go. Which meant that the only way Yates could win was if (a) he had a lot left in the tank AND (b) Navarro cracked. No way, and I mean NO WAY that this would've happened yesterday with Bilbao. Hence, Yates wasn't smart, he was lucky.

What broadcast? Carlton Kirby?! :eek: Give me a break!
Yates had Navarro visually, he knew how was Navarro going, that's why he left it so late to go full gas. Luck has nothing to do with that, guy calculated his strength and his opponents strenght, and executed it perfectly. That's class, not luck!
 
That final kilometer today was at ~ 9-10%, that should also be taken into account as whether to judge Yates' move. 15-20 seconds with 200m to go ain't much against a fading rider on such steep slopes. Hard to say it was calculated or lucky.