Cycling viewership and rider popularity.

[spalco]

And no, the Tour winner will always be more known than a sprinter.

Most people probably think Cavendish won the Tour the last couple years.

 

[El Pistolero]

Most people probably think Cavendish won the Tour the last couple years.

Than why has Cadel Evans more than twice the hits in google than Mark Cavendish? Google is a very useful instrument to check how popular someone really is you know.

 

[bicing]

Dear El Pistelero, theyoungest, woodie, etal.
If you could please tell me what page the last post about a transfer or a transfer rumour was, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

What type of rider is Posthuma? Mainly Classics??

 

[roundabout]

A rider in decline

 

[just some guy]

Dear El Pistelero, theyoungest, woodie, etal.
If you could please tell me what page the last post about a transfer or a transfer rumour was, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

What type of rider is Posthuma? Mainly Classics??

Classic, time trail type

 

[spalco]

Than why has Cadel Evans more than twice the hits in google than Mark Cavendish? Google is a very useful instrument to check how popular someone really is you know.

That's a good point actually, admittedly. Thanks for contributing some objective data. I have to point out though that the vast majority of searches for Evans and Gilbert comes from Australia and Belgiums respectively, whereas Cavendish is more even. And Lance Armstrong is almost nothing on google trends, so this metric can't be the definitive measure imo.

 

[El Pistolero]

That's a good point actually, admittedly. Thanks for contributing some objective data. I have to point out though that the vast majority of searches for Evans and Gilbert comes from Australia and Belgiums respectively, whereas Cavendish is more even. And Lance Armstrong is almost nothing on google trends, so this metric can't be the definitive measure imo.

It's not definitive, but it shows how popular someone is right now at this very moment. Which is exactly what started this discussion.

Armstrong doesn't get a lot of hits because he already retired, but I think it's a good way to compare active cyclists to each other.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Than why has Cadel Evans more than twice the hits in google than Mark Cavendish? Google is a very useful instrument to check how popular someone really is you know.

that's mostly due to the multiple number of times I visitied his site through google.

 

[The Hitch]

that's mostly due to the multiple number of times I visitied his site through google.

Nice one ACF

 

[El Pistolero]

that's mostly due to the multiple number of times I visitied his site through google.

Uhh, what a horrible grammar mistake in my post you quoted!

 

[Anonymous]

that's mostly due to the multiple number of times I visitied his site through google.

yeh, but guess who beats Cadel Evans into touch????

of course, the one flaw with that site is that it is case sensitive, so Cadel Evans brings up totally different results to cadel evans. Not everyone bothers capitalising on google. I know i dont.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

they all have some sort of contender.
Rolland and Gadret.. Personally I see more talent in rolland. I was waiting for him to deliver for a long time.

But Pinot in a couple of years will be France's best hope, this I am sure of.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

The people who think cycling is boring and use Cav as example?

And no, the Tour winner will always be more known than a sprinter.

It's irrelevant because I'm not building up my argument solely around Gilbert. I'm saying Cav isn't the most known cyclist in the world. I'm saying that people like Contador, Andy Schleck and Cadel Evans are more known than Cav. I put Phil in there and if Valverde returns I'll add him as well.

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Alberto+Contador&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Cadel+Evans&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

MMM... No way are the schlecks and contador more well known in Australia, a country where cycling isn't that big.

I'd say after cadel probably cav is most well known here.

being anglosaxon probably the reason.

C.Vermeltfoort is probably going to Green Edge

mmm really? I have doubts.
He has one more year on his contract, and I'd be surprised if rabo let him go that easy.

He hasn't had much impact so far, but a couple years ago, before he got the 'rabo flu' he was tearing up the espoirs.

I didn't expect much this year, but he also had some bad luck this year, breaking both his wrist on the start ramp in zeeland.

Dear El Pistelero, theyoungest, woodie, etal.
If you could please tell me what page the last post about a transfer or a transfer rumour was, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

What type of rider is Posthuma? Mainly Classics??

has a good itt. if not a little inconsistent.

He is a good domestique in general. I've seen him climb ok, doing domestique duties earlier in the day.

He is pretty strong on the cobbles, again suitable for a good domestique on this terrain also.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Alberto+Contador&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Cadel+Evans&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

lol thanks for that, never saw it before.

Funnily Samuel Sanchez has less searches than Philippe Gilbert.

BUT.

Samu Sanchez has more

Together they would make some kind of super cyclist, with GT podiums, jerseys, and an olympic gold medal.

Like putting batman and superman together.

How could you leave out Gadret from their Giro success? I'll agree with you when it comes to the Vuelta, I'd give Europcar or FDJ a ride over AG2R.

Because i said he would ride the Tour. When i say Frances number 1 gt contender im not talking about Pierre Rolland.

Yep.

The Tour was on the news more in the UK than Cavs WC win! A lot of people only think cycling exists in July.

I would even put ASchleck was well know. I know a few lads in the office know of him and they dont follow cycling.

Wait a minute, the Tour was on the news in the UK????

It's not a hyperbole, the Tour does attract about 2 billon viewers every year. I don't know about single stages, but my guess is that it will be more than 4 million

Monuments are only watched by (moderate) cycling fans.

WTF 2 billion viewers. Have you gone nuts? Theres not even 2 billion people with access to tvs. And regular channels dont even show the Tour in most countries you need to buy special channels just to watch it.

In England I dont know a single person who has ever watched the Tour de France. And cyclng fans in England are far more numerous than in Africa China, Japan USA.

None of the major markets besides western europe touch it.

In Spain, one of the major cycling countries 4 million people watch the Tour. Thats one tenth of the population.

So how does 1/3 of the total world population watch the Tour if in one of its major countries (hell staging areas even) the ratio is only 1:10?

 

[filipo]

lol thanks for that, never saw it before.

Funnily Samuel Sanchez has less searches than Philippe Gilbert.

BUT.

Samu Sanchez has more

Together they would make some kind of super cyclist, with GT podiums, jerseys, and an olympic gold medal.

Like putting batman and superman together.

Because i said he would ride the Tour. When i say Frances number 1 gt contender im not talking about Pierre Rollzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Might we limit this discussion of Cav v. Contador v. Gilbert to, say, a thread that isn't about transfer rumors?

 

[The Hitch]

For mods to move the off topic posts from transfer thread, to

 

[Martin318is]

Just wanted to drop in and give a quick Kudos to The hitch for taking the time to create this thread to prompt me to move all 65!!!! Off topic posts out of the transfers thread.

(You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.... )

 

[The Hitch]

Just wanted to drop in and give a quick Kudos to The hitch for taking the time to create this thread to prompt me to move all 65!!!! Off topic posts out of the transfers thread.

(You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.... )

Im pretty sure it took you a lot longer to move those 65 posts then it did me to press the "new thread" button

 

[briztoon]

MMM... No way are the schlecks and contador more well known in Australia, a country where cycling isn't that big.

I'd say after cadel probably cav is most well known here.

being anglosaxon probably the reason.

OK, up untill this years tour I was a casual fan (still am compared to you lot). Up untill 3 or 4 years ago I had never heard of the Giro or Vuelta, and I have watched the tour for 10 years. Up untill this year I never new anything about the Classics or any other race apart from the big 3.

Now I will speak for Australia only. Outside of the cycling community and the die hard sport fans no one knows who the heck Cavendish is.

Most Australians could only name two cyclists, Cadel Evans and Lance Armstrong.

I dare say in the States it may be something similar. Lance Armstrong and who ever the best rider from the US currently is, and maybe even Cadel would be more well known than Cavendish.

In the UK, it's more than likely Cavendish and Lance Armstrong as the most well known. And Cavendish only because the local UK (sports) media talk about the local boy made good.

Now I will go out on a limb here and say world wide, that Lance Armstrong is still the number one name in cycling. After that, it's likely the current tour de france winner, and the best local cyclist/s are next. Outside of the UK and Europe (and maybe inside as well) the majority of mainstream people will NOT know who Cavendish is.

 

[woodie]

The people who think cycling is boring and use Cav as example?

And no, the Tour winner will always be more known than a sprinter.

It's irrelevant because I'm not building up my argument solely around Gilbert. I'm saying Cav isn't the most known cyclist in the world. I'm saying that people like Contador, Andy Schleck and Cadel Evans are more known than Cav. I put Phil in there and if Valverde returns I'll add him as well.

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Alberto+Contador&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

http://www.googlebattle.com/?domain=Cadel+Evans&domain2=Mark+Cavendish&submit=Go!

Well you did because you said that Gilbert and Contador were two cyclists more well known than Cav, I agree Contador is but Gilbert is not, and thats what i've been arguing. Yes people who have won the Tour GC or are GC contenders are more well known, im not denying that, what i'm denying is that Gilbert is more known that Cav

 

[Martin318is]

Im pretty sure it took you a lot longer to move those 65 posts then it did me to press the "new thread" button

The hard part was making sure I didnt pull across the THREE posts that were on topic in that thread that were hidden in all the pages of OT posts

Will stop now before this conversation is labelled OT

 

[simo1733]

Chris Hoy and Brad Wiggins would be more well known than Cav in UK due to their Olympic medals.Olympics gets much more attention in UK than Tour De France.

 

[simo1733]

According to twitter:
Alberto Contador 276,000 followers
Mark Cavendish. 169,000
Cadel Evans. 118,000
Phil Gilbert. 373

Just sayin.

 

[briztoon]

According to twitter:
Alberto Contador 276,000 followers
Mark Cavendish. 169,000
Cadel Evans. 118,000
Phil Gilbert. 373

Just sayin.

That's because the cycling world is waiting for Contador to out himself.

And the Sky world is praying that Cavendish signs for them.

 

[LugHugger]

Cavendish was the only cyclist on the "most marketable athletes in the world"- list that was made earlier this year. He wouldn't be there if he weren't the most known active cyclist.

QED

I would imagine that only Armstrong is more recognisable to the average sports fan than Cavendish right now. Possibly Contador. Gilbert probably third in current racers. Evans and Schleck would not come close.

It is the volume of wins in the most publicised cycling race in the world which makes Cavendish so recognisable - or 'famous'.