Dan Martin - "Now I know you can win clean"

[Archibald]

Re:

Broke two ribs surfing and paddled out the next day. Hurts, but for a pro racer? Don't see any reason why he couldn't train, and he did in fact race.

likewise.
cracked ribs weren't an issue for riding - until I got out of the saddle...

 

[the delgados]

Didn't Tyler Hamilton ride solo and win a stage of Le Tour with a double fracture in his collarbone?
I'm pretty sure Bjarne Riis was waving x-ray photos of Tyler's broken collarbone to the press before his emotional stage win.
Don't be so cynical. It can be done.

 

[Benotti69]

Dan Martin's girlfriend,Jessica Andrew, improved her 10k PB by 83 secs...ouch!!!!

Qualified for Olympics!

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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Dan Martin's girlfriend,Jessica Andrew, improved her 10k PB by 83 secs...ouch!!!!

Qualified for Olympics!

Never heard of this woman before but it sounds like her win was a big shock. The incredible thing is that she smashed her previous PBs for the 3000 and 5000m en route to victory.

 

[Benotti69]

of course

Sean Ingle@seaningle

People asking about Jess Andrews' improvement. I put it to her - said "she wasn't in love with running before, but was now properly training"...

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Re:

Dan Martin's girlfriend,Jessica Andrew, improved her 10k PB by 83 secs...ouch!!!!

Qualified for Olympics!

Never heard of this woman before but it sounds like her win was a big shock. The incredible thing is that she smashed her previous PBs for the 3000 and 5000m en route to victory.

The bold bits always happens.

If she was a beginner maybe - never if you train and race all the time. Even age category racers will not have such a performance jump.

Apparently she just now has fallen in love with running. That makes a bunch of sense.

 

[sniper]

Yikes, sounds like a Froome-esque improvement.
I doubt Dan knew she would 'respond' like this.

 

[Bumeington]

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of course

Sean Ingle@seaningle

People asking about Jess Andrews' improvement. I put it to her - said "she wasn't in love with running before, but was now properly training"...

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

This is the 2nd 10000m she has ever run on track. In 2014 she was competing in the British Universities championships, i.e she was at university, certainly not training like a professional. I think it's a completely plausible improvement, she's only 24

 

[Benotti69]

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of course

Sean Ingle@seaningle

People asking about Jess Andrews' improvement. I put it to her - said "she wasn't in love with running before, but was now properly training"...

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

This is the 2nd 10000m she has ever run on track. In 2014 she was competing in the British Universities championships, i.e she was at university, certainly not training like a professional. I think it's a completely plausible improvement, she's only 24

Is she not living in Girona with Dan Martin?

Most ahtletes in Uni run and train as pros.

She is the next Radcliffe

 

[Benotti69]

Dan looking every inch a pro cyclist today........

 

[blackcat]

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/dan-martins-fiancee-comes-from-nowhere-to-qualify-for-olympics/

dan's partner also knows you can win clean, must be friends with paulapaulapaula

 

[Benotti69]

Dan Martin moved from Girona to Andorra.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/doping-ring-busted-in-andorra/

Just saying.

 

[glassmoon]

wait... what? dem gains are no longer marginal?

 

[ontheroad]

Gluten free and moving to Andorra has made the difference to Dan, so he says. He must be sharing recipes with his fiancé as well. Look what it done for Djokovic, everyone should be on gluten free.

 

[WillemS]

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Gluten free and moving to Andorra has made the difference to Dan, so he says. He must be sharing recipes with his fiancé as well. Look what it done for Djokovic, everyone should be on gluten free.

Are people still fooling themselves with the gluten-free thing? What is this, 2014?

 

[carolina]

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Gluten free and moving to Andorra has made the difference to Dan, so he says. He must be sharing recipes with his fiancé as well. Look what it done for Djokovic, everyone should be on gluten free.

Are people still fooling themselves with the gluten-free thing? What is this, 2014?

in most cases the problem isn't the gluten, but something called FODMAPS: https://www.gluten.org/resources/health-wellness/gluten-sensitivity-and-fodmaps/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697

non-celiac people just confuse the two because they are ignorant on the subject.

 

[Starstruck]

"cleanliness is next to godliness"

 

[BullsFan22]

I think he is inspired by his girlfriend. Or is the other way around? Either way, they are both inspired! PB's and all!

 

[Random Direction]

Well, he's climbing well. Wonder if his TT has improved as much as his gf''s 10k. Let's see: 83 seconds out of 33:20 is a 7 percent improvement (for me, that would take my 35:30 pb down to 33:00, or a whole step up in class). In cycling TT terms, now that Dan loves cycling, that would be a, say, 4 percent improvement over 40 minutes, or 1:36 faster.

Will be interesting to see how his rest day at home went.

 

[Benotti69]

Dan Martin, hayfever sufferer and pollen allergies.....

...... as the general public has been learning in recent weeks, to a large extent there is officially no such thing as doping.
You just discover that you have something wrong with you - the hay fever seems to be a good one - and you get this thing called a TUE (a Therapeutic Use Exemption), which enables you to crank yourself up with enough drugs to cure all the hay fever that everyone in Europe has been suffering since the end of the Second World War.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/declan-lynch/lance-armstrong-you-werent-the-worst-35076310.html

Where is Dan's outrage at Wiggins using an excuse like pollen allergies to get injections?

No outrage..it is because Dan is telling porkies......

 

[sniper]

Kimmage interviewing Martin.
I was sceptic reading the title, but Kimmage actually sticks to his guns, asking the right questions as usual.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/columnists/paul-kimmage/paul-kimmage-meets-dan-martin-growing-up-with-the-roches-the-scourge-of-doping-and-tour-de-france-ambitions-36026789.html

Some eyebrowraisers.

Doping accusations being down to 'jealousy', French of course.
Heard that before somewhere.

DM: Yeah, that resonated with me, "You're ***!" I was still beating all the other 18- and 19-year-olds at the club but it was because I wasn't French. There was a lot of animosity between the riders, a definite sense of them and us. I'd had a very protected childhood and I learnt a lot about life there and how two-faced people can be. There was bullying, insults, guys spreading rumours, 'He's doping!'

PK: That was the rumour?

DM: Yeah, guys telling their friends, 'I shared a room with him. I saw him dope'. Trying to dirty your image. It was horrific, just jealousy. There had to be a reason you were better than them: 'If he's beating me, he must be doping.'

Sure Dan.

DM: My first real contact - and I remember this clearly - was on the morning of the first stage of the 'baby' Giro (the amateur Tour of Italy) in '06. They had tested everyone the day before and I remember being told at breakfast that three or four guys wouldn't be starting because (their haematocrit) was over the 50 per cent level. I thought, 'Holy ***! That's ridiculous!' Because that was perceived as doping, but one of my team-mates was laughing: 'Yeah, mine was 49.9 (per cent)!' and I never looked at him in the same light again. So that was the first realisation: 'Maybe you are surrounded by this'.

PK: What was your haematocrit?

DM: I can't remember.

You remember all the other details, but you forgot your own hematocrit?

DM: People are stunned by how much I eat. I remember (having dinner) at an altitude training camp and guys from other teams were horrified: 'How are you so skinny!' Because I smash myself in training and burn it off.

A case of "I'm on my bike 6 hours a day. What are you on?" I don't buy it Dan.

And, surprise, Dan deflecting away from the topic of motors:

PK: It [motors] has happened.

DM: Yeah, definitely. You see guys holding onto cars as well, the (team) directors' cars, that's cheating! Or the TV motorbikes and the way they're being used.

Re Valverde:

DM: The thing about Valverde is this - in my mind, because (I finished) so close to him, I have to believe he's not doping still. But we don't know about the effects doping has long-term.

Jeebus.

 

[Benotti69]

my thing with Dan Martin from that article is this:

I think we are getting closer to being able to say the sport is clean. The doping cases are getting fewer and fewer. Is that because they're not cheating? Or because they're not catching them? I don't know. I prefer to think the sport is in a better place now. I don't think I would be able to do what I'm doing if it wasn't. The social cost of getting caught is higher for some than it is for others. For me, there would be a line out the door of family and friends waiting to punch me. For others, there is no such stigma and it's still seen as 'part of the job'. Maybe when I retire we'll have another chat and I'll be angrier about being robbed. For the moment, I just have to play with the cards I've been dealt.

Either Martin is a complete idiot or he is being omerta. I think the latter.

His stances on Wiggins, Froome, Sky and others are weak.

 

[DanielSong39]

Does he have a future in stand-up comedy?

 

[pastronef]

I saw some praise for Martin on twitter instead, his comments about the Vuelta 2011 shadowed all the rest of the interview

 

[miguelindurain111]

There was bullying, insults, guys spreading rumours, 'He's doping!'

But, but rumours are an important piece of evidence!