Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

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LOL! :rolleyes: Cycling genius indeed!


Sir Dave Brailsford, the former performance director of British Cycling, said Leicester’s success is a “fantastic case study in sport” that all sports teams can learn from.He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that British Cycling has been trying to analyse how it can follow Leicester’s example as it prepares for the Olympic games.

“Our sports science guys were up here a month and a half ago meeting with the guys here and having a look at what’s going on - that’s sport we all trying and learn from each other,” he said.

Brailsford added: “The refreshing thing about this particularly story is that it just goes against every thing – the established norms and the conventional wisdom about how to win the premier league. It just shatters everything that everybody has established. So it just an exciting opportunity to learn.

“There’s an old saying in sport that the star team will always beat the team of stars. You quite often hear people saying that, and it’s very rarely seen in fact, but this is a really good example of that.’

“They obviously had the talent, but the recruitment of that talent, how did they identify that talent, how did they pull it together, how did they developed goal clarity. The journey they went through was exciting, they built momentum, Vardy’s run of scoring goals, that gave them belief and you could see the belief growing all the time. So it is just a fantastic case study in sport.”


http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2016/may/02/chelsea-v-tottenham-hotspur-premier-league-live?page=with:block-57285ecee4b0a2f120514f48#block-57285ecee4b0a2f120514f48
 
thehog said:
LOL! :rolleyes: Cycling genius indeed!


Sir Dave Brailsford, the former performance director of British Cycling, said Leicester’s success is a “fantastic case study in sport” that all sports teams can learn from.He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that British Cycling has been trying to analyse how it can follow Leicester’s example as it prepares for the Olympic games.

“Our sports science guys were up here a month and a half ago meeting with the guys here and having a look at what’s going on - that’s sport we all trying and learn from each other,” he said.

Brailsford added: “The refreshing thing about this particularly story is that it just goes against every thing – the established norms and the conventional wisdom about how to win the premier league. It just shatters everything that everybody has established. So it just an exciting opportunity to learn.

“There’s an old saying in sport that the star team will always beat the team of stars. You quite often hear people saying that, and it’s very rarely seen in fact, but this is a really good example of that.’

“They obviously had the talent, but the recruitment of that talent, how did they identify that talent, how did they pull it together, how did they developed goal clarity. The journey they went through was exciting, they built momentum, Vardy’s run of scoring goals, that gave them belief and you could see the belief growing all the time. So it is just a fantastic case study in sport.”


http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2016/may/02/chelsea-v-tottenham-hotspur-premier-league-live?page=with:block-57285ecee4b0a2f120514f48#block-57285ecee4b0a2f120514f48

he was also asked about Sutton...very non-committal other than saying he wanted his daughter to have opportunities and we should wait for the Inquiry...of course acknolwdging it was a good question to ask :)
 
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thehog said:
The Carrot said:

Only just re-saw this link... the Brailsford book didn't actually come out! Even he might not be able to stomach his on BS in 350 pages... or maybe Walsh is busy? :cool:

Sir Dave Brailsford, the mastermind behind three Tour de France triumphs in four years, has finally agreed to publish his life story.

The book, What It Takes, is about Brailsford's extraordinary cycling success with Sky and also Team GB, who enjoyed multi-medal hauls at the Beijing and London Olympics.

It was due to be released by Penguin last year but Brailsford had been nervous in 2013 — after his Team Sky rider Chris Froome had won his first Tour de France — about going public too early in his career. He cited 'personal reasons' for the delay but also had reservations about working with a ghost-writer with little cycling knowledge.

:eek: :cool: :confused: :p

I dont think Walsh was busy. Your link says that brailsfraud was nervous working with him.

He cited 'personal reasons' for the delay but also had reservations about working with a ghost-writer with little cycling knowledge
 
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Amazing how some people find it so easy to lie even in the face of the truth

Dave Brailsford insists British Cycling treats men & women the same and vows to help review:
 
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Benotti69 said:
Amazing how some people find it so easy to lie even in the face of the truth

Dave Brailsford insists British Cycling treats men & women the same and vows to help review:



Sir Dave has to be part of the review for sure, that's a very good idea :rolleyes:

Or maybe the review will be on Dave and about his previous leadership?
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
Conclusive proof, almost:
Anagram of David Brailsford = Dis' bird, Favor lad.
NB: in Yorkshire
boy = lad,
girl = bird.
;)

where is Fran Millar?
 
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no sh!t, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
 
thehog said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no ****, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
That was his point wasn't it?

He's trying to shift focus away from the ridiculous uphill and TT performances, implying that Froome is winning this not because of superhuman power and VAM, but only because he's dropping everyone with his superior technique. The guy is so disingenuous, and the fans will lap it up of course.
 
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DFA123 said:
thehog said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no ****, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
That was his point wasn't it?

He's trying to shift focus away from the ridiculous uphill and TT performances, implying that Froome is winning this not because of superhuman power and VAM, but only because he's dropping everyone with his superior technique. The guy is so disingenuous, and the fans will lap it up of course.
He's a smart guy who knows what he's talking about and his point come across perfectly makes a huge change from most of the ex cyclist that represent their team. No need to say I'm a huge fan of the guy. I know people hate him for his marginal gains but fact is they work and they've made him the most successful man in cycling.
 
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thehog said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no ****, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
I got the impression he meant they don't have to deal with such questions because he attacked on the descent. He is just being a snarky, smarmy (insert adjective of choice). The quote should have continued "we have to deal with 'how is he pedaling in that position' "is there a gyroscope to keep that fool upright' ..."
 
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Ramon Koran said:
DFA123 said:
thehog said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no ****, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
That was his point wasn't it?

He's trying to shift focus away from the ridiculous uphill and TT performances, implying that Froome is winning this not because of superhuman power and VAM, but only because he's dropping everyone with his superior technique. The guy is so disingenuous, and the fans will lap it up of course.
He's a smart guy who knows what he's talking about and his point come across perfectly makes a huge change from most of the ex cyclist that represent their team. No need to say I'm a huge fan of the guy. I know people hate him for his marginal gains but fact is they work and they've made him the most successful man in cycling.

It would seem Sky have interns do the interweb forums.
 
Benotti69 said:
Ramon Koran said:
DFA123 said:
thehog said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-on-froome-people-arent-asking-the-same-questions-as-in-the-past/

“I think it’s pretty important what Chris did at the end of last year when he went into the lab and put himself up for testing independently of the team, and I think the numbers told a significant story,” Brailsford said. “People certainly aren’t asking the same questions as they have done in the past. It’s difficult to ask for VAM and power data if you’re going downhill and dropping everybody.

David Brailsford cycling genius?

VAM? - "average ascent speed"

So, yes Dave, no ****, it is difficult to ask for VAM as you're descending not in assent... Has anybody asked for something so stupid? Or did you just make this one up?
That was his point wasn't it?

He's trying to shift focus away from the ridiculous uphill and TT performances, implying that Froome is winning this not because of superhuman power and VAM, but only because he's dropping everyone with his superior technique. The guy is so disingenuous, and the fans will lap it up of course.
He's a smart guy who knows what he's talking about and his point come across perfectly makes a huge change from most of the ex cyclist that represent their team. No need to say I'm a huge fan of the guy. I know people hate him for his marginal gains but fact is they work and they've made him the most successful man in cycling.

It would seem Sky have interns do the interweb forums.

Demand Media is sifting at $5, back in the day it was $500. I'm sure Sky News has its bots on the comments sections.
 
Ramon Koran said:
He's a smart guy who knows what he's talking about and his point come across perfectly makes a huge change from most of the ex cyclist that represent their team. No need to say I'm a huge fan of the guy. I know people hate him for his marginal gains but fact is they work and they've made him the most successful man in cycling.
Do you know what also works? A sophisticated doping program and motors in the bike frame, which have - incidentally - also made quite a few people in cycling very, very rich and successful.

I'm not necessarily saying the famous "marginal gains" are actually doping and moto-fraud, though. But they probably are.
 
Saint Unix said:
Ramon Koran said:
He's a smart guy who knows what he's talking about and his point come across perfectly makes a huge change from most of the ex cyclist that represent their team. No need to say I'm a huge fan of the guy. I know people hate him for his marginal gains but fact is they work and they've made him the most successful man in cycling.
Do you know what also works? A sophisticated doping program and motors in the bike frame, which have - incidentally - also made quite a few people in cycling very, very rich and successful.

I'm not necessarily saying the famous "marginal gains" are actually doping and moto-fraud, though. But they probably are.

After being contacted by L'Equipe, Armstrong moved quickly to deny the allegations, describing the paper's investigation as "tabloid journalism" and a "witch hunt".

"I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs," Armstrong said on his website. The Texan had never failed a doping test during his 14-year career.

You see, oh ***, sorry, wrong year, same quote :rolleyes:
 
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the last cycling genius in the pre-brailsford era was bruyneel.

This is such a rich painting:
McQuaid-563x1000.jpg

The use of colors, the body language, the dynamic setting captured by the stroke of a brush.
Van Gogh could not have painted it better.
 
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thehog said:
He is speaking today?
Let me guess "We followed the rules." I wonder if anyone will ask something along the lines of: "So your belief is we will inject our cyclists with whatever it takes as long as there is not a rule against it?"