Dave Brailsford - cycling genius

[Jacques (7 ch)]

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http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15035574.Nicole_Cooke_to_assist_MPs_with_doping_inquiry/?ref=twtrec

Sam Hocking my friend, you are not going to want to watch that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Watch the Shane defence team come out to bat on how Nic was bitter, twisted, not a team player, etc.

I would 'love it' ((c) Kevin Keegan ) if she were the one to dish it to Sky/BC. I don't think she can deliver the killer blow (='-it wasn't fluimucil, it was X, and btw Brad was doing ...') but she can get us closer.

 

[42x16ss]

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http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15035574.Nicole_Cooke_to_assist_MPs_with_doping_inquiry/?ref=twtrec

Sam Hocking my friend, you are not going to want to watch that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Watch the Shane defence team come out to bat on how Nic was bitter, twisted, not a team player, etc.

I would 'love it' ((c) Kevin Keegan ) if she were the one to dish it to Sky/BC. I don't think she can deliver the killer blow (='-it wasn't fluimucil, it was X, and btw Brad was doing ...') but she can get us closer.

They can't pull the "bitter/poor form" routine with Cooke like they tried on Varnish. 10 national titles, a world championship, Giro GC, 2 World Cup overalls and many other wins will take care of that.

 

[Benotti69]

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http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15035574.Nicole_Cooke_to_assist_MPs_with_doping_inquiry/?ref=twtrec

Sam Hocking my friend, you are not going to want to watch that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Watch the Shane defence team come out to bat on how Nic was bitter, twisted, not a team player, etc.

I would 'love it' ((c) Kevin Keegan ) if she were the one to dish it to Sky/BC. I don't think she can deliver the killer blow (='-it wasn't fluimucil, it was X, and btw Brad was doing ...') but she can get us closer.

They can't pull the "bitter/poor form" routine with Cooke like they tried on Varnish. 10 national titles, a world championship, Giro GC, 2 World Cup overalls and many other wins will take care of that.

Cooke will lambast anybody who takes a pop at her. They will have to be very careful if they want to criticise her as no doubt she will have many examples of how lottery funded British Cycling failed the British Women.

 

[Brian Butterfield]

Now that is good news.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15035574.Nicole_Cooke_to_assist_MPs_with_doping_inquiry/?ref=twtrec

Sam Hocking my friend, you are not going to want to watch that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Watch the Shane defence team come out to bat on how Nic was bitter, twisted, not a team player, etc.

I would 'love it' ((c) Kevin Keegan ) if she were the one to dish it to Sky/BC. I don't think she can deliver the killer blow (='-it wasn't fluimucil, it was X, and btw Brad was doing ...') but she can get us closer.

They can't pull the "bitter/poor form" routine with Cooke like they tried on Varnish. 10 national titles, a world championship, Giro GC, 2 World Cup overalls and many other wins will take care of that.

Cooke will lambast anybody who takes a pop at her. They will have to be very careful if they want to criticise her as no doubt she will have many examples of how lottery funded British Cycling failed the British Women.

Yep, and the best part is that Cooke and Pooley are very close and she was screwed over even worse than Cooke. If Pooley steps up to the plate and BC aren't worried then you know they're truly Teflon coated.

 

[King Boonen]

Link to watch Cooke:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0a112cdf-836f-411d-b47e-fc2904f81c2d

 

[Mr.38%]

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Link to watch Cooke:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0a112cdf-836f-411d-b47e-fc2904f81c2d

Wow, Cooke. So spot on.

 

[MmeDesgrange]

Nicole Cooke's written evidence http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/culture-media-and-sport-committee/combatting-doping-in-sport/written/45898.pdf

 

[kingjr]

Did she answer the question why she put the quotation marks around "unknown"?

 

[Norks74]

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Link to watch Cooke:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0a112cdf-836f-411d-b47e-fc2904f81c2d

Wow, Cooke. So spot on.

Yeah, very interesting stuff.

 

[gillan1969]

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Did she answer the question why she put the quotation marks around "unknown"?

she was asked and stated that is was because Brailsford said he was told...and so we still didn't know catergorically

 

[gillan1969]

stuck the boot into the TUE at the end specifically....

she wasn't even training when she took Brad's steriod.....

 

[Mr.38%]

Evidence has been called "at times disturbing". Really great questions, too.

 

[gillan1969]

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Evidence has been called "at times disturbing". Really great questions, too.

indeed and quite embarrassing the difference in the credibility of the witnesses vis a vis Sutton (the hick) especially but also Brailsford (trying to sell coals to newcastle)...

 

[vedrafjord]

Pertinent to the “jiffy bag” incident is that two of the protagonists are directly involved in the Linda McCartney cycling team. Both Simon Cope and Bradley Wiggins rode for this team. Team Manager Julian Clark and rider Matt DeCanio state that doping was practised within the team. Other BC employees and ex employees involved in the team are current U23 men’s road team manager Keith Lambert, ex team doctor Roger Palfreeman, who was doctor on the team, Max Sciandri and ex Team Sky manager Sean Yates who rode for a number of years on the same team as Lance Armstrong. Apparently UKAD have testimony from three members of the team stating that riders used PEDs. The investigation was started in 2012 when the claims were first made by The Times newspaper. UKAD did advise at the outset patience would be needed before outcomes would be reached. “All valid information that could lead to a prosecution will be followed up.” As recently as June 2016 three of the British members of this team, Sean Yates, Max Sciandri and Matt Stephens, who is a commentator on the sport for Eurosport, all stated that UKAD had made no contact with them. Four years on – how patient do we have to be, or are UKAD doing nothing?

I am not an expert on the legal framework under which UKAD management operate. I can only state from my viewpoint they appear very keen to grasp any excuse not to do anything a clean athlete might view as of merit.

Bravo Nicole.

 

[sniper]

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Pertinent to the “jiffy bag” incident is that two of the protagonists are directly involved in the Linda McCartney cycling team. Both Simon Cope and Bradley Wiggins rode for this team. Team Manager Julian Clark and rider Matt DeCanio state that doping was practised within the team. Other BC employees and ex employees involved in the team are current U23 men’s road team manager Keith Lambert, ex team doctor Roger Palfreeman, who was doctor on the team, Max Sciandri and ex Team Sky manager Sean Yates who rode for a number of years on the same team as Lance Armstrong. Apparently UKAD have testimony from three members of the team stating that riders used PEDs. The investigation was started in 2012 when the claims were first made by The Times newspaper. UKAD did advise at the outset patience would be needed before outcomes would be reached. “All valid information that could lead to a prosecution will be followed up.” As recently as June 2016 three of the British members of this team, Sean Yates, Max Sciandri and Matt Stephens, who is a commentator on the sport for Eurosport, all stated that UKAD had made no contact with them. Four years on – how patient do we have to be, or are UKAD doing nothing?

I am not an expert on the legal framework under which UKAD management operate. I can only state from my viewpoint they appear very keen to grasp any excuse not to do anything a clean athlete might view as of merit.

Bravo Nicole.

Seconded.

I didn't hear everything from the video link, but the written evidence (starting section 4) is one of the most compelling antidoping documents I remember reading.

 

[Mr.38%]

When she used the term "glow times" already early in her second defence, you could see the sprockets in the commitees heads spining. My jaw dropped quite a bit as well. What a day for anti-doping in europe.

 

[vedrafjord]

More highlights:

. In 2006, 12 of the 13 positive test results at the men’s Tour de France were discounted by riders having active TUEs. 105 of the 176 starters were tested, and 60% had TUEs. In 2008, 76 of the 180 riders who started the men’s Tour de France had TUEs

also

For London 2012 the 2011 Trial Event was for men only, despite the current gold medallist in the road race and silver medallist in the time trial being female, we were again ignored. Staff at BC will point out that this was not their decision, but that of the London Games organisers. The manager of the Cycling events at London 2012 was an ex BC employee and worked in complete co-operation with the staff at BC. If they had wanted to put on a trial event for women they could have done so. That manager is ex professional cyclist Simon Lillistone who has his own “long journey with a bag, the contents of which and purpose of the journey were a complete mystery to him”. In his case he was transporting a “bag” for Lance Armstrong. A decade later it was confirmed the bag contained PEDs, but at the time the story of the “bag for Lance” came out, Simon Lillistone found he could not support the claims of his partner Emma O’Reilly, who stated that they were PEDs for Armstrong’s doping program to win the Tour de France.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

I love Nicole!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Did she answer the question why she put the quotation marks around "unknown"?

Yes
Unknown - means yet to be clarified
- since Brailsford (cycling genius) had been told - but did not know - the Jiffy Bag's content.

 

[Benotti69]

Cooke put the boot not only into British Cycling/Brailsford/UK Sport and UKAD, but through it.

 

[yaco]

It was a wide-ranging dissection of facts in Cooke's testimony and written evidence - So at least three cyclists admitted to taking PED's but no charges from UKAD - And there have been similar cases in other countries.

 

[gooner]

Cooke's statement to the committee.

http://data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/culture-media-and-sport-committee/combatting-doping-in-sport/written/45898.pdf

 

[vedrafjord]

Even if no doping dirt came out of this, it's still a damning indictment of BC's commitment to women's cycling.

 

[T_S_A_R]

Nicole Cooke destroyed UKAD and BC today. She deserves huge credit.

Judging by the response of journalists who pay attention to cycling they are quite pleased by thos development. I get the impression that Brailsford and Wiggins have already been damned in media circles which means it is only a matter of time until they are exposed.