Dave Millar - anti doping hero

[pastronef]

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Stood up to Armstrong??? I don't think so. You mean tossed his salad as long as he could and then turned on him when he could make a quick buck out of him. He's as dirty as the next pro bike rider but more full of *** and weasel words.

like Wiggins... what was Wiggins words on Lance? "I luv him". "He has done so much for cycling"...

scoundrels

well, Wiggo was a precursor looks like Lance is gaining back some fans these days ain't it?
he never loved the Andreu's
he loved Lance

 

[Archibald]

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But people do buy his books.

If we can accept this to be true can we then accept that the Tweet which started this is factually inaccurate when it says Millar "is never wanted" wherever he turns up?

can see it now;
person lifts his book off the shelf in a store, then 'pooof' and out of the smoke comes millar... "Hi, I see you want to buy my book..."
or maybe taking his book off the shelf activates a big 'DM' in the sky for him to follow, just like Batman...

I'm off to a book store now to try this...

 

[bobbins]

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Fran may have gotten a promotion at Sky, no longer head of winning behaviours

http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/staff/article/17368#FCbAl4rziS1C9IoR.97

 

[blackcat]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/staff/article/17368#FCbAl4rziS1C9IoR.97

but that came before my pic i think, or did my pic come after, was winning behaviours a promotion, or head of business operations the promotion after FM's success at winning behaviours.

Soon they will have Cath Wiggins employed as Chief of Marginal Gains.

Sky's end of season wrap party is around Eric Blair's tomb

 

[Cycle Chic]

on Twitter

*** the hypocrisy ‏@Digger_forum 12h12 hours ago

David Millar is in the list of 'champions' along with rob hayles - why not Jon Tiernan Locke?


Good one !!

 

[Jacques de Molay]

OK, I'll bump this

Millar launches cycling tours with Velocamps

David Millar will host a new trio of cycling tours in 2016, to be run in conjunction with tour operator Velocamps. The former pro will help lead tours in Spain, France and Italy - specifically Catalonia, the Côte d’Azur and the Lombardy region.

The premium trips will have challenging routes and full service, with mechanics, guides well versed in the local region and high quality hotels and meals.

“It’s fantastic to have David on board and exciting to launch this new partnership which combines great cycling and the chance to spend time with one of the peloton’s most colourful characters," James Pybus from Velocamps said. "David is well known to cycling fans having had a long and successful racing career, written a best selling book and a now respected TV pundit. Cycling alongside him on iconic and picturesque roads, and picking his brains over dinner is something any cycling fan will love."

 

[Jacques de Molay]

And this...

The Cyclingnews Podcast: A conversation with David Millar
'I was absolutely bamboozled by the news of Tom Danielson's poistive'

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/the-cyclingnews-podcast-a-conversation-with-david-millar/

With only the slightest bit of imagination, one can fill in the entirety of this "in-depth interview."

The Danielson bit starts @20:00 but there's nothing there. He offers zero defense of TD, and doesn't even bother pretending that TD might be clean, but meanders around the topic without offering anything substantial. Much like the rest of the interview.

Oh, and Froome, Wiggo and Ryder are clean. (@28:20)

So there.

 

[blackcat]

new avatar

 

[blackcat]

And this...

The Cyclingnews Podcast: A conversation with David Millar
'I was absolutely bamboozled by the news of Tom Danielson's poistive'

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/the-cyclingnews-podcast-a-conversation-with-david-millar/

With only the slightest bit of imagination, one can fill in the entirety of this "in-depth interview."

The Danielson bit starts @20:00 but there's nothing there. He offers zero defense of TD, and doesn't even bother pretending that TD might be clean, but meanders around the topic without offering anything substantial. Much like the rest of the interview.

Oh, and Froome, Wiggo and Ryder are clean. (@28:20)

So there.

he was horrified at Vino's positive too in about 2005 when he was coming back with Saunier Duval. This was before he sold out Saunier Duval as a latino bunch of cycling keith richards

 

[blackcat]

and if that is one of his wet weather tops he is making with Castelli, i wont be buying his sh!t cycling gear n alliterations

 

[blackcat]

on Twitter

**** the hypocrisy ‏@Digger_forum 12h12 hours ago

David Millar is in the list of 'champions' along with rob hayles - why not Jon Tiernan Locke?


Good one !!

he wants to look like a stupid british band lead singer hipster bohemian drug-taker... like Paul Weller too and SBW sir brad wigans...

well, Millar has a few ticks, drug-taker, yep, tick, hipster (try hard consumer hipster) tick, yep, singer? nope, bohemian? well, he did his memoirs lol.

 

[Freddythefrog]

BBC Radio 4 PM program had a humungous interview with St David the self proclaimed World's greatest anti-doping campaigner. You can catch it on the iplayer - last 12 minutes or so of the program.

A warning, play calming music and get into a very good place before you start to listen to it, for health reasons, initial blood pressure of the listener needs to be as low as possible. I don't need to write anything here. It is like he was reading a script that was designed to hit every button in the clinic, selective recall, twisted facts, cycling now at the "vanguard" of clean sports, St David being asked by the IAAF how to clean up their act.

However, in terms of providing an explanation of how administrators at UK Sport and UK anti-doping bought into the Sky/BC story that you can thrash dirty johnny foreigner clean, it opens up an interesting window. Millar and the construction of the image around him is very much a part of why sane people let their guard down and the story was able to gain traction.

I recommend you listen to it. It gives the informed listener much material to think about.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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BBC Radio 4 PM program had a humungous interview with St David the self proclaimed World's greatest anti-doping campaigner. You can catch it on the iplayer - last 12 minutes or so of the program.

A warning, play calming music and get into a very good place before you start to listen to it, for health reasons, initial blood pressure of the listener needs to be as low as possible. I don't need to write anything here. It is like he was reading a script that was designed to hit every button in the clinic, selective recall, twisted facts, cycling now at the "vanguard" of clean sports, St David being asked by the IAAF how to clean up their act.

However, in terms of providing an explanation of how administrators at UK Sport and UK anti-doping bought into the Sky/BC story that you can thrash dirty johnny foreigner clean, it opens up an interesting window. Millar and the construction of the image around him is very much a part of why sane people let their guard down and the story was able to gain traction of how "Brad came out of the boozer one day and said, you know what, If I train and eat right, I can lose weight, .retain power and beat all those dopers - let's give it a go".

I recommend you listen to it. It gives the informed listener much material to think about.

what was the name of the programme? Or better if you have the url.

 

[Freddythefrog]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06twbz8

41.08 to the end

 

[thehog]

Only just saw this today on a similar but slightly unrelated Saint David matter...

The DAVID MILLAR PROJECT is the company’s lead project and the first to go into production. Having completed our Seed investment round, we are now open for EIS investments.

“The genre with the biggest box office ROI was actually documentary, with domestic box office returns averaging 12 times the original production budget, and global returns at nearly 27 times the original budget.

INVESTOR BENEFITS
Benefits include exclusive updates during the shoot, an invitation to an exclusive preview screening of the film, tickets to the premiere, a special ride with David, and for higher levels of investment, film credits as Associate or Executive Producer.

http://www.davidmillarfilm.com/invest

Maybe David needs to speak to David Walsh? And also plumb the money that he was paid for the bomb that was The Program into his own film, LOL!

 

[fmk_RoI]

Maybe David needs to speak to David Walsh? And also plumb the money that he was paid for the bomb that was The Program into his own film, LOL!

They're still looking for investors? That's been going since when, 2013? It was meant to be abt 2014 farewell, wasn't it, except that went tits up.

 

[thehog]

Maybe David needs to speak to David Walsh? And also plumb the money that he was paid for the bomb that was The Program into his own film, LOL!

They're still looking for investors? That's been going since when, 2013? It was meant to be abt 2014 farewell, wasn't it, except that went tits up.

I wonder if any of the investors received their "special ride"' with David?

 

[42x16ss]

Maybe David needs to speak to David Walsh? And also plumb the money that he was paid for the bomb that was The Program into his own film, LOL!

They're still looking for investors? That's been going since when, 2013? It was meant to be abt 2014 farewell, wasn't it, except that went tits up.

I wonder if any of the investors received their "special ride"' with David?

Sounds like they all did

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06twbz8

41.08 to the end

thanks!

 

[thehog]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06twbz8

41.08 to the end

thanks!

I listened to it... uses the Hugh Grant charming chap routine...

I like how he talks about his life spiralling out of control of being caught and he drank himself to numb the pain. Now he just takes money from people and numbs the pain by drinking?

Talks about UKAD being at the vanguard and leading the anti-doping out of all the NADOs, couldn't stop laughing at that point. Does UKAD actually test their athletes leading up to major competition?

Routine David Millar stuff, he is a fluffer for the fanboys. Gets them all worked up and ready...

 

[Benotti69]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06twbz8

41.08 to the end

thanks!

I listened to it... uses the Hugh Grant charming chap routine...

I like how he talks about his life spiralling out of control of being caught and he drank himself to numb the pain. Now he just takes money from people and numbs the pain by drinking?

Talks about UKAD being at the vanguard and leading the anti-doping out of all the NADOs, couldn't stop laughing at that point. Does UKAD actually test their athletes leading up to major competition?

Routine David Millar stuff, he is a fluffer for the fanboys. Gets them all worked up and ready...

Love that. Good post Hog

 

[Anaconda]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dr12q

So Millar was on the WADA athletes committee and says in 2009 someone from the IAAF confided in him that athletics was riddled with doping. But what did Millar do about this. In the interview just excuse that WADA's hands were tied, could do nothing. Took until 2014 and the Russian whistlerblowers and journalist to expose what Millar etc at WADA and IAAF knew about but not a sole acted on. Only after the ARD documentary did WADA do anything about this with its IC report. Can you imagine all the clean athletes that would have not had their carreers ruined had Davd 'antidoping hero' Millar spoke out at the time. Actually then maybe I'd see him as a real antidoping advocate. Not just a antidoping charlatan, looking to cash in of the back of real clean athletes every chance he can.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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So Millar was on the WADA athletes committee

It is worth remembering that, once upon a time, Millar reminded people that he knew who was doing what in cycling. Then he conveniently forgot (or realised his self-aggrandising BS carried no weight in the peloton). Ask yourself: is there really any difference between Millar's anecdote about an unnamed source and someone, say, taking to Twitter to say they have it on authority from UKAD that Sky are bad to the bone but are just too damned clever to allow themselves to be caught? They're both just trying to tell the world they know more than you do.

 

[Anaconda]

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So Millar was on the WADA athletes committee

It is worth remembering that, once upon a time, Millar reminded people that he knew who was doing what in cycling. Then he conveniently forgot (or realised his self-aggrandising BS carried no weight in the peloton). Ask yourself: is there really any difference between Millar's anecdote about an unnamed source and someone, say, taking to Twitter to say they have it on authority from UKAD that Sky are bad to the bone but are just too damned clever to allow themselves to be caught? They're both just trying to tell the world they know more than you do.

Won't argue that Millar is a real pro at spouting self-aggrandizing BS. But imho by accepting a position on the WADA athletes commission there was some greater responsibility on him to be more than just the PR spouting mouthpiece that he was in his position as a WT Team pro rider.

Unfortunately I took a look at that DM project movie web site. Though in hindsight it is pretty funny how that all worked out. But it did lead me to this clip on year 1 of Slipstream, the Team camp/intro, thought it might be amusing to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLYlhdtsMgo

At 4:42, while sitting between Hesjedal and CVV, Millar says his "situation is completely different to the rest of the team as he is an ex doper". That's comedy gold given that he was pretty much in a team full of "ex-dopers" and either was lying or totally unaware. Finger on the pulse David.

 

[thehog]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dr12q

So Millar was on the WADA athletes committee and says in 2009 someone from the IAAF confided in him that athletics was riddled with doping. But what did Millar do about this. In the interview just excuse that WADA's hands were tied, could do nothing. Took until 2014 and the Russian whistlerblowers and journalist to expose what Millar etc at WADA and IAAF knew about but not a sole acted on. Only after the ARD documentary did WADA do anything about this with its IC report. Can you imagine all the clean athletes that would have not had their carreers ruined had Davd 'antidoping hero' Millar spoke out at the time. Actually then maybe I'd see him as a real antidoping advocate. Not just a antidoping charlatan, looking to cash in of the back of real clean athletes every chance he can.

Like all good David Millar stories, the events occurred over a drink at the bar

Yes David you got drunk with some random guy at the IAAF and you can't even remember his name, the only part you remember was the sport was riddled with doping.