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Benotti69

Benotti69

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Captain_Cavman said:
I've actually read the Millar autobiography so perhaps I should be disqualified from posting in this thread but anyway here goes...


Millar and Lance. Millar started out in Cofidis with a load of Lances ex-team mates. Incidently He calls them out for doping and he didn't particularly get on with them. Millar states categorically that, "You do not f**k with Lance", which is why presumably he didn't as a rider. And like most of the peleton, he was overawed by LA's presence. But it's there between the lines in the book if you want to see it, Lance doped.

Miller and Cavendish. Cavendish was desperate for Millar to be his road captain at the Worlds and went on a massive sucking up campaign to get his man. Wiggins had let team mates down in the past (as it happened he was awesome on the day) so Cavendish needed Millar. There was that tweet about Millar giving him the best news ever. Then the two of them + Hunt trained together for weeks in the build up. Cavendish wants Millar again because Wiggins has even more of his own interests to manage next summer, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't do the RR.

Millar and Wiggins The dislike is palpable. Millar feels let down by Wiggins following the move to Sky and his lack of effort in Garmin's lead out on the final stage of the 2009 Tour and he doesn't rate him as a GC contender. Making Millar captain for the Worlds was a tactical master stroke.

Millar and Brailsford Always been very close, nothing to do with his sister. However Millar was denied the opportunity to go to Sky and then sees them hire riders and staff with less than spotless reps. Must rankle a bit I'd have thought.

There are bits in the book that don't ring true: not realising that Vino was doping for a start. What was that about? But generally an interesting and worthwhile read.

As for whether he should ride? No, but it's only the olympics so I'm not that bothered if he does. There are far more deserving cases for me to get worked up about.
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I understood Millar to be part owner of Slipstream sports?
 
Captain_Cavman

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Benotti69 said:
I understood Millar to be part owner of Slipstream sports?
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I think the concept of a British Pro team run by Brailsford and Ellingworth has been around for longer than Millar's involvement with Slipstream but I can't remember the exact chronology. Indeed I remember reading somewhere that the team was originally going to centre around Cavendish but there was some problem and he went and signed a 3 year deal with HTC.

As for Millar being a part owner of Slipstream, I did wonder how that came about considering he claimed to be bankrupt at the time. Maybe his part ownership is more nominal than having a big financial interest?
 
thehog

thehog

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Frosty said:
There were rumours last year that he was going to Greenedge. People did ask similar questions but i dont think there was an answer. Maybe it was just the press getting things wrong.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/langeveld-goss-millar-to-greenedge-reports
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Not only is he part owner of Slipstream Vaughters and company paid 800,000euros in French unpaid taxes for Miller when he joined the team – The French government was talking of legal action unless he paid. This has now been paid back so there’s NOOOOOOOOOO way he is going anywhere else. Long haul.
 
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thehog said:
Not only is he part owner of Slipstream Vaughters and company paid 800,000euros in French unpaid taxes for Miller when he joined the team – The French government was talking of legal action unless he paid. This has now been paid back so there’s NOOOOOOOOOO way he is going anywhere else. Long haul.
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Pete Rose was also a player coach. I hope Millar's f-ck ups with doping and taxes don't cause him any damage to his standing in an organization that is trying to maintain a high standards.
 
Swabian Lass

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Millar is a part owner of Garmin Slipstream (from 2008? I think) but I don't think that he put a huge amount of money into the team. I always thought it was more about publicly aligning himself with their anti doping stance - literally buying into an ideal perhaps.

I imagine that ti didn't do his image any harm at that point either.
 
happychappy

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Oh well. He certainly won't be the only sneaky little dirty doping omerta snake in the farce that is "London 2012". Might as well let Ricco in. Can we get Ricco a British citizenship? :D
 
Catwhoorg

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Thats not too surprising.
Cav was very full of praise for Millar after the Worlds.


If the ban gets liefted:
Cav, Wiggo, Froome, Millar, Stannard is the likely 5 if you ask me.

Wiggo and Millar for ITT.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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Zam_Olyas said:
I do not know whether this is true or not

Hoy and Coe express dismay after drug cheats are given Olympics reprieve

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ol...ismay-drug-cheats-reprieve.html#ixzz1sbeW92es
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You have to love how riders complain about those who were caught and paid a price but do not complain much about the 90% of dopers who have not been been caught and are still riding. It is especially funny for track cycling, where the steroid use is as visually obvious as it is for body building.
 
blackcat

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Catwhoorg said:
Thats not too surprising.
Cav was very full of praise for Millar after the Worlds.


If the ban gets liefted:
Cav, Wiggo, Froome, Millar, Stannard is the likely 5 if you ask me.

Wiggo and Millar for ITT.
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Froome for the tt.

If they had a stronger 5th rider than Stannard, I would be betting on Cav now.

I thought Hammond, but he may as well have retired.

Swift or Thomas would be more for me, if they werent on the boards
 
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blackcat said:
Froome for the tt.

If they had a stronger 5th rider than Stannard, I would be betting on Cav now.

I thought Hammond, but he may as well have retired.

Swift or Thomas would be more for me, if they werent on the boards
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Froome is still to confirm his Vuelta form.

Stannard is a pretty strong rider. It's not his fault that the failings of Sky's classics leaders left him having to chase the Omega beasts around Northern Europe for a month.

Cummings is another good option but he's had a bit of nightmare with crashes and injuries this season.
 
Benotti69

Benotti69

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BroDeal said:
You have to love how riders complain about those who were caught and paid a price but do not complain much about the 90% of dopers who have not been been caught and are still riding. It is especially funny for track cycling, where the steroid use is as visually obvious as it is for body building.
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Yep, Hoy and his tree trunk thighs must be diet and science of training!

More of the hypocrisy that permeates cycling.

Why are we still discussing Riccó? He has gotten 12 years and is now history. If he can blow the lid on where he got his dope, who introduced him to it, who prepared him etc great, but he wont. He is Italian. He is making threats to keep those in the know that he still wants a cut/job/some action.

Let's now talk about J-Rod and Katusha, Gilbert, Bruyneels boys, OPQS and all these others who are still rubbing fans faces in it!
 
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BroDeal said:
You have to love how riders complain about those who were caught and paid a price but do not complain much about the 90% of dopers who have not been been caught and are still riding. It is especially funny for track cycling, where the steroid use is as visually obvious as it is for body building.
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Thats because most reasonable people understand the difference between fact and hearsay.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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andy1234 said:
Thats because most reasonable people understand the difference between fact and hearsay.
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I guess that pegs you an unreasonable person because you obviously don't know the meaning of hearsay.

Hint for a more successful life: Using words that you don't know the meaning of does not strengthen an argument. It does not make you look sophisticated. It does not impress others. It just makes you look like an idiot.
 
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BroDeal said:
I guess that pegs you an unreasonable person because you obviously don't know the meaning of hearsay.

Hint for a more successful life: Using words that you don't know the meaning of does not strengthen an argument. It does not make you look sophisticated. It does not impress others. It just makes you look like an idiot.
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Wow, I think you just dissapeared up your own a$$.

Clearly dictionaries in the US are different than the rest of the world.....
 
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andy1234

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thehog said:
So andy1234 - tell us the difference between fact and hearsay. I'd like to know.
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Hi Hog, nice of you to join us in this English lesson.

However I will defer to Brodeal for his interpretation of hearsay first, as it is clearly at odds with the rest of the world.

If you can't wait until then, google is apparently quite good at that sort of thing.
 
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