Death of the frame pump

[BroDeal]

Is this a case of style over substance? Were people just too vain to allow a pump to clutter their bikes, or were they afraid someone might lift their bike and find it half a pound heavier?

 

[Anonymous]

Is this a case of style over substance? Were people just too vain to allow a pump to clutter their bikes, or were they afraid someone might lift their bike and find it half a pound heavier?

not particlarly got room for one, they are a nuisance and a co2 cyclinder is easier

 

[marathon marke]

Is this a case of style over substance? Were people just too vain to allow a pump to clutter their bikes, or were they afraid someone might lift their bike and find it half a pound heavier?

I have to admit that vanity was one reason why I just ordered a Lezyne Road Drive, medium size in white. I used a Zefal HPX for years, but just wanted something that looked nicer and was smaller. I always carry CO2 also.

 

[BroDeal]

I do not totally trust CO2 on long solo rides because I live in the Rockies, also known as the land of the goathead thorns. Multiple punctures per ride can occur. I carry a mini pump in a jersey pocket. I often carry the pump even if I am carrying CO2.

I know that a mini pump is a pretty crappy substitute for a frame pump like a Zefal HPX, but bike vanity prevents me from using a frame pump. At heart I know it is really stupid.

Most carbon bikes are not even made to fit a frame pump.

 

[titan_90]

I don't like the way a frame pump looks on a bike and with all the curved top-tubes and seat tubes on the carbon bikes they look even worse.

I carry a Lezyne Pressure Drive medium in the mounting bracket on my seat-tube. I can get up to riding pressure in under two minutes. I don't use C02 since you are limited to the number of cartridges you carry, just seems like a waste of money to me.

 

[buckwheat]

I do not totally trust CO2 on long solo rides because I live in the Rockies, also known as the land of the goathead thorns. Multiple punctures per ride can occur. I carry a mini pump in a jersey pocket. I often carry the pump even if I am carrying CO2.

I know that a mini pump is a pretty crappy substitute for a frame pump like a Zefal HPX, but bike vanity prevents me from using a frame pump. At heart I know it is really stupid.

Most carbon bikes are not even made to fit a frame pump.

My blackburn fell apart when I went to pump and I used CO2 to help some guy out. Redundancy is never a bad idea. I hadn't used CO2 in a couple of years.

 

[usedtobefast]

I don't like the way a frame pump looks on a bike and with all the curved top-tubes and seat tubes on the carbon bikes they look even worse.

I carry a Lezyne Pressure Drive medium in the mounting bracket on my seat-tube. I can get up to riding pressure in under two minutes. I don't use C02 since you are limited to the number of cartridges you carry, just seems like a waste of money to me.

a waste of money and what do you do with the empty? mini pump on my newer bikes is much more efficient. my older Italian bikes still get a frame pump.

 

[Anonymous]

Frame pumps on all ( except the ones with travel couplers - the coupler interferes with the frame pump ) so I carry a Blackburn mini on those.

I do not use CO2, never have - never will.

 

[Anonymous]

well i may be tempting fate here, but i havnt had a puncture since i had one on my chopper in about 1984. I never had one on my road bike, nor the mountain bike, nor the current bike.

having said that i will probably get one tommorow now, but the wife will be with me and she has a frame pump

 

[bobs nob]

My blackburn fell apart when I went to pump and I used CO2 to help some guy out. Redundancy is never a bad idea. I hadn't used CO2 in a couple of years.

Funny! My co2 fell apart when my crappy panaracers exploded at the sight of gravel. I now carry a topeak road morph, more or less the final word in frame pumps short of a floor pump. But thread-less co2 carts are dirt cheap at wally world, so a thread-less co2 is good backup.

(Get them in the paint ball section back near the fishin' rods)

Decent tires are by far the best prevention, sorry for you folks who live in thorny areas.

 

[bobs nob]

My blackburn fell apart when I went to pump and I used CO2 to help some guy out. Redundancy is never a bad idea. I hadn't used CO2 in a couple of years.

Funny! My co2 fell apart when my crappy panaracers exploded at the sight of gravel. I now carry a topeak road morph, more or less the final word in frame pumps short of a floor pump. But thread-less co2 carts are dirt cheap at wally world, so a thread-less co2 is good backup.

(Get them in the paint ball section back near the fishin' rods)

Decent tires are by far the best prevention, sorry for you folks who live in thorny areas.

Call me a wimp, those mini pumps are a nightmare ime.

 

[dynomike8]

Funny you brought this up. I don't usually carry one because I keep 3 CO2 in my saddle bag and usually I am near civilization if I do have an emergency. On longer I usually keep a pump in my jersey pocket but it usually drives me bonkers bouncing up and down. Tomorrow I am doing a century so I ended it using electrical tape to tape it to the seat post/tube about 5 minutes ago. Not very bling but it is not in my jersey!

 

[Beech Mtn]

Funny you brought this up. I don't usually carry one because I keep 3 CO2 in my saddle bag and usually I am near civilization if I do have an emergency. On longer I usually keep a pump in my jersey pocket but it usually drives me bonkers bouncing up and down. Tomorrow I am doing a century so I ended it using electrical tape to tape it to the seat post/tube about 5 minutes ago. Not very bling but it is not in my jersey!

Don't worry. You're in good company:

 

[forty four]

...........c02 all the way for speed and convenience. they do make pumps now with both c02 and a pump that would be best but i would only use the pump for an emergency or if very broke.

 

[online-rider]

some of the poorer teams still use em

 

[doxter]

the hybrid pumps that run with co2 as an alternate to pumping are fine my me . that way you cover eventualities of running out of gas

 

[richwagmn]

I do not totally trust CO2 on long solo rides because I live in the Rockies, also known as the land of the goathead thorns. Multiple punctures per ride can occur. I carry a mini pump in a jersey pocket. I often carry the pump even if I am carrying CO2.

I know that a mini pump is a pretty crappy substitute for a frame pump like a Zefal HPX, but bike vanity prevents me from using a frame pump. At heart I know it is really stupid.

Most carbon bikes are not even made to fit a frame pump.

Seems bike makers made this decision for us. I need a mini pump too

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

I really miss having my Zéfal HPX at the ready. The stable is down to one frame that has a pump peg, and it's not even built up. Something I thought of in the past and most recently with this thread, is to simply epoxy a plastic nub on a carbon frame for a pump peg. But due to the curvy profile of carbon frames it's not really possible to have it run parallel with the top tube, kinda looks like a high performance twin top tube cruiser bike. I'll take peace of mind over looks when I'm putting in the junk miles. Takes about 1/3 the time to change a flat with a frame fit instead of a mini.

 

[Black Dog]

With pumps like the Lezyne a full sized frame pump is really not needed.

 

[BroDeal]

With pumps like the Lezyne a full sized frame pump is really not needed.

Can you fight off one of these bad boys with one?

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

Exactly! The Zéfal can double as a weapon, which I've used to fend off countless dogs and a couple unruly teenagers. Those new Lezyne pumps while impressive for fixing flats, really still cannot pull double duty as personal protection. Like comparing a pencil to a baseball bat.

 

[marathon marke]

LOL You got a point there, BroDeal!

 

[ElChingon]

Can you fight off one of these bad boys with one?

Carbon soles take care of that easily.

 

[bobs nob]

Can you fight off one of these bad boys with one?

maybe we need a separate thread on the most effective non-lethal dog stopper. Note that I said non-lethal and not non-harmful. If some 'neck let's his pitbull roam free I am going to sleep just fine if the little ******* went limping home. I was attacked by one (pretty nasty event) when I was about 13-14. I have no sympathy for vicious dogs being euthanized.

 

[titan_90]

maybe we need a separate thread on the most effective non-lethal dog stopper. Note that I said non-lethal and not non-harmful. If some 'neck let's his pitbull roam free I am going to sleep just fine if the little ******* went limping home. I was attacked by one (pretty nasty event) when I was about 13-14. I have no sympathy for vicious dogs being euthanized.