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Chris Froome’s top 10 Tour de France contenders​

The four-time winner isn't headed to the start in Florence, but he picks his favorites among the contenders who are.

Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates)​

Jonas Vingegaard (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Primož Roglič (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Matteo Jorgenson (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Remco Evenepoel (Soudal-Quick Step)​

Adam Yates (UAE Team Emirates)​

Aleksandr Vlasov (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Carlos Rodriguez (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Egan Bernal (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Derek Gee (Israel-Premier Tech)​


what he says about Gee:​
I don’t think that I could complete my list without including Derek. No one really pegged him for a podium spot at the Dauphiné but having done the last training camp with him before the Dauphiné it was clear to see that he was flying. I’m not sure he’s going to try and ride GC but I think he’s got both the form and the capacity for it. His numbers at camp were incredibly impressive and if you look at the Giro last year, he was in back-to-back breakaways going for stage wins on such a regular basis. Don’t forget he was doing that in the really hard mountain stages and then going out there the next day and backing it up. That showed to me that he has the ability to ride for GC, he just needs to refine things and pick up a bit more experience. ​
 
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aruipksni said:

Chris Froome’s top 10 Tour de France contenders​

The four-time winner isn't headed to the start in Florence, but he picks his favorites among the contenders who are.

Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates)​

Jonas Vingegaard (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Primož Roglič (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Matteo Jorgenson (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Remco Evenepoel (Soudal-Quick Step)​

Adam Yates (UAE Team Emirates)​

Aleksandr Vlasov (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Carlos Rodriguez (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Egan Bernal (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Derek Gee (Israel-Premier Tech)​


what he says about Gee:​
I don’t think that I could complete my list without including Derek. No one really pegged him for a podium spot at the Dauphiné but having done the last training camp with him before the Dauphiné it was clear to see that he was flying. I’m not sure he’s going to try and ride GC but I think he’s got both the form and the capacity for it. His numbers at camp were incredibly impressive and if you look at the Giro last year, he was in back-to-back breakaways going for stage wins on such a regular basis. Don’t forget he was doing that in the really hard mountain stages and then going out there the next day and backing it up. That showed to me that he has the ability to ride for GC, he just needs to refine things and pick up a bit more experience. ​
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Turns out not all Froome says is pure trash. Great effort from Gee. He was in the break on the gravel stage, which moved him up to 9th, and that's where he ended up.
 
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Great Tour but I woulda hoped he would have a more Carapaz approach to the Tour, think he could be more successful that way. Wonder what approach he will take going forward. Nevertheless a great Tour.
 
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velaso montador said:
Great Tour but I woulda hoped he would have a more Carapaz approach to the Tour, think he could be more successful that way. Wonder what approach he will take going forward. Nevertheless a great Tour.
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It was a test. Both the rider and the team wanted to check how he's developing as a GC rider, which has been the plan for the past 12 months at least. Whether his level will be enough to compete for a Giro / Vuelta podium is hard to tell, but he has shown great consistency and recovery.
 
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aruipksni said:

Chris Froome’s top 10 Tour de France contenders​

The four-time winner isn't headed to the start in Florence, but he picks his favorites among the contenders who are.

Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates)​

Jonas Vingegaard (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Primož Roglič (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Matteo Jorgenson (Visma-Lease a Bike)​

Remco Evenepoel (Soudal-Quick Step)​

Adam Yates (UAE Team Emirates)​

Aleksandr Vlasov (Bora-Hansgrohe)​

Carlos Rodriguez (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Egan Bernal (Ineos Grenadiers)​

Derek Gee (Israel-Premier Tech)​


what he says about Gee:​
I don’t think that I could complete my list without including Derek. No one really pegged him for a podium spot at the Dauphiné but having done the last training camp with him before the Dauphiné it was clear to see that he was flying. I’m not sure he’s going to try and ride GC but I think he’s got both the form and the capacity for it. His numbers at camp were incredibly impressive and if you look at the Giro last year, he was in back-to-back breakaways going for stage wins on such a regular basis. Don’t forget he was doing that in the really hard mountain stages and then going out there the next day and backing it up. That showed to me that he has the ability to ride for GC, he just needs to refine things and pick up a bit more experience. ​
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He forgot his ex team mate Landa, and Almeida, but for the rest he was quite accurate, and it is not easy
 
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velaso montador said:
Great Tour but I woulda hoped he would have a more Carapaz approach to the Tour, think he could be more successful that way. Wonder what approach he will take going forward. Nevertheless a great Tour.
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I don’t think he’s cut out to be a GC GT rider, but it was a good effort. I’m not sure where he gets separation on other contenders. He was decent and consistent in the mountains and quite good but not dominant in TTs. But that’s just a recipe to gradually bleed time.

On the other hand I think I was wrong about Jorgenson being too big for a 3 week GT...
 
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Bolder said:
I don’t think he’s cut out to be a GC GT rider, but it was a good effort. I’m not sure where he gets separation on other contenders. He was decent and consistent in the mountains and quite good but not dominant in TTs. But that’s just a recipe to gradually bleed time.

On the other hand I think I was wrong about Jorgenson being too big for a 3 week GT...
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Multiple riders including Gee, really got it together and experiencing uphill trouble. Gee was one of many pleasant surprises, when riders that were getting physically and mentally destroyed, put their train back on the track and kept time losses to a minimum.. Gee, Jorgenson and Landa all went deep on multiple days and the GC reflects extraordinary efforts. As you can tell I am impressed. You have to be really really mentally strong not to give up!!! I don't know where Gee fits in the scheme of things
 
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Okay, form curve like in the Tour last year has been confirmed. I think he wins one of stage 15, 17 & 19. I can easily imagine him taking off on Joux, never to be seen again.

A big shame that he was so vulnerable in stage 1 when Lidl-Trek hammered the last climb and that he punctured on the gravel towards Siena. If only the time splits had counted yesterday, then that and the weather in the ITT would have balanced it ...
 
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Question:
If Derek was to take a young rider under his wings in order to teach him about life in - or ahead of - the peloton, would that rider be his protegee?






(Yeah... I just came up with that. I'll find my own way out.)
 
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Had he finished with Carapaz/Yates on the gravel stage (as he would have with no punctures), he would be 9 or 11 seconds off the race lead right now.
 
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Netserk said:
But he wouldn't have had as favourable conditions in the ITT then (where despite the result he did rather poorly). So maybe half a minute further back in GC.
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Point taken, I thought there were fewer riders within a minute of him going into the TT.
 
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Before the race:

“A top five in the Giro would be a dream, but we are taking it day by day and just hoping the legs come good in the final week. That will be the real test.”

Unfortunately, he lacked the last bit in the last two mountain stages to truly challenge for the podium. I hope he will target the Giro again next year and be able to find form already from day 1.
 
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Netserk said:
Before the race:

“A top five in the Giro would be a dream, but we are taking it day by day and just hoping the legs come good in the final week. That will be the real test.”

Unfortunately, he lacked the last bit in the last two mountain stages to truly challenge for the podium. I hope he will target the Giro again next year and be able to find form already from day 1.
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He showed great heart and I feel he wrung the maximum out of himself. Good race but really needs some climbing support to help pace him at times.

With his diesel climbing style I think there will always be 1 or 2 riders too explosive that gap him and snaffle a big haul of bonus seconds as well.
 
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