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I talk to the guys at Campagnolo NA all the time..and they talk to gen-u-ine pros all the time. Campagnolo's business is 'bike racing'. They ask these guys and gals what they can improve in their kit and 'brakes' never come up.
It'll happen, the $ from the 'big boys' is just too big. Remember when Spinaci's were banned? Not big enough bribe to UCI..bigger from shimano and spam. Campag even tho they have 'em, don't really care. Road discs in Europe, Campagnolo's primary market, Groad bikes, this gravel grinder stuff, doesn't really exist. See a dirt road? Go ride it. Don't need
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-wet disc
-tapered fork steerer
-fat tires
silly.
berend said:MWC said:blaxland said:The difference in use between cross and road isnt comparable.there are no wheel changes in cross racing(only bikes)whereas road racing has lots.so until there is a faster way of wheel changes/and compatability(between brands) there will not be a revolution in dics.I have been riding bikes for over 35years and have never had a issue with rim brakes..
The comparison is a case study of what direction disc road is headed, nothing to do with format vs format. Regarding wheel changes; aside from a rotor standard to be agreed upon (140 f&r is my guess), the only thing left to figure out is variance of caliper position as it relates to taking a spare from neutral, rotors aren't going to always line up. Like a 'reset pad position' button that the mechanic can flip when they swap a wheel. I can tell you that when pros take a neutral wheel sometimes they're leaving the calipers in the open position because not every service course has the same concept of spoke tension or dish. I've been riding, racing, and wheel building for 30 years and had many issues with rim brakes. Different strokes.
Leaving the caliper in the open position happens often. It's easy on rim brakes, and it points to one of two answers:
* no pro cares about brakes
* they still work "well enough" in suboptimal operation (ie. rim brakes are already better than necessary)
Remember that the pros also want the lawyer tabs removed for faster wheel changes. Lawyer tabs are a problem for the pros, but possibly good for consumers who don't check their skewers before every ride. Or at least, they're good for the lawyers.
I've had a wheel swap with a misplaced rotor. It's not difficult to fix, but it'll cost you a race.
In road racing it feels a bit like road tubeless tyres (and yes, I also have a set of those): good, proven tech that doesn't work in a new application.
I talk to the guys at Campagnolo NA all the time..and they talk to gen-u-ine pros all the time. Campagnolo's business is 'bike racing'. They ask these guys and gals what they can improve in their kit and 'brakes' never come up.
It'll happen, the $ from the 'big boys' is just too big. Remember when Spinaci's were banned? Not big enough bribe to UCI..bigger from shimano and spam. Campag even tho they have 'em, don't really care. Road discs in Europe, Campagnolo's primary market, Groad bikes, this gravel grinder stuff, doesn't really exist. See a dirt road? Go ride it. Don't need
-1by
-wet disc
-tapered fork steerer
-fat tires
silly.