Do you pack heat on your rides?

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

It seems utterly preposterous how some people can judge others when it comes to this topic, especially if they have never been a victim, or near victim of violence. If you've ever had a weapon pulled on you, I guarantee you'd have a different perspective. And it doesn't matter where you're from, the gritty city, the veritable paradise of the suburbs, or the boondocks. Anyone, anytime, anywhere, can easily become a victim. Some people take this more seriously that others, which speaks volumes in the why they express themselves here. Despite some really scary situations I've had the displeasure of being in, which I posted about earlier, I still don't feel the need to carry a lethal weapon on the bike.

On a side note, some of the dog stories are scary as fu*k, to hilarious as hell. Personally, I've managed to avoid any bad encounters with dogs thanks to some sprinting ability and deft bike handling skills. Hood River, OR was the worst for dogs, hands down. Every other apple orchard we rolled by turned into sprint intervals.

 

[Bala Verde]

I thought it was about taking a can of hot coffee with you on those long cold wintertime rides. Or tea, possibly. Whatever tickles your fancy.

That's what I was thinking. Heat pads or something, when your muscles are sore!??!

But then it's a bout guns... It's so far outside my comfortzone that I didn't even know what they were talking about. It's probably because I am European, but I have not ever met anyone who talked about guns, owning them or having a desire to own them. And then I moved

On a side note, some of the dog stories are scary as fu*k, to hilarious as hell. Personally, I've managed to avoid any bad encounters with dogs thanks to some sprinting ability and deft bike handling skills. Hood River, OR was the worst for dogs, hands down. Every other apple orchard we rolled by turned into sprint intervals.

Have been chased by a dog for about two miles, a rather big one. He noticed me, unfortunately for me, when I was going uphill 12-14%, with 250m left! I think I have never ever gone up a hill so fast, and subsequently rode a prologue afterwards untill I couldn't see him anymore. I was totally knackered afterwards, but it must have been my single best interval ever...

 

[Cartesian Centaur]

Taking this thread very seriously indeed, I'm thinking it could be a way for Andy Schleck to get a good handle on Contador in the Tour, probably well worth the weight penalty (could you ask a domestique to carry your weapon for you?)

 

[issoisso]

Taking this thread very seriously indeed, I'm thinking it could be a way for Andy Schleck to get a good handle on Contador in the Tour, probably well worth the weight penalty (could you ask a domestique to carry your weapon for you?)

- "Aim for the tires!! Aim for the tires!!"
- "Shut up Frankie i know what I'm doin''

 

[Anonymous]

Taking this thread very seriously indeed, I'm thinking it could be a way for Andy Schleck to get a good handle on Contador in the Tour, probably well worth the weight penalty (could you ask a domestique to carry your weapon for you?)

This would be much safer for everyone involved:

 

[Cartesian Centaur]

This would be much safer for everyone involved:

Maybe Cadel would be interested...

 

[issoisso]

Is that Rujano at the back?

 

[39*23t]

http://www.arthurshall.com/images/custom_images/arnold_predator.jpg

arnie sending the riders off at the tour of cal

 

[shawnrohrbach]

My brother is a deputy sheriff in Eastern Washington and back in the 80's for a time his gig was to hike/patrol the more remote parts of Chelan County. In those five years, he came across two hikers on two different occasions, ostensibly out to enjoy nature, who had been shot with their own handguns. They were attacked and in the process of pulling the handguns, had them taken away by the attackers and shot point blank. In one case a 23 y/o man died and in the other a 43 y/o man lived and was able to successfully help prosecute his attacker.

 

[Aapjes]

In those five years, he came across two hikers on two different occasions, ostensibly out to enjoy nature, who had been shot with their own handguns. They were attacked and in the process of pulling the handguns, had them taken away by the attackers and shot point blank.

Quite a few police officers get shot with their own guns as well. Carrying a weapon means that you need to be able to use it quickly and smartly, even when you are tired after a long ride. If you don't, it may mean death or jail. Carrying a gun is a big responsibility...

 

[kloftus1044]

I don't feel the need to pack heat on a ride but occasionally feel the need for a heat pack after the ride.

 

[Seth Bullock]

I don't think Greg Lemond would agree with the "packing heat" idea.....

 

[Anonymous]

I don't think Greg Lemond would agree with the "packing heat" idea.....

But D!ck Cheney would....

 

[bunchridefinder]

Pack Heat?

What da!, I thought you guys were joking!

I thought Sydney roads were bad, i've considered giving the odd motorists the old nuckle sandwhich but gee wiz pack heat?

What da?

 

[philcrisp]

I think our American cousins need to understand that in general in Western Europe it just isn't necessary to go armed in the middle of nowhere.

 

[shawnrohrbach]

Quite a few police officers get shot with their own guns as well. Carrying a weapon means that you need to be able to use it quickly and smartly, even when you are tired after a long ride. If you don't, it may mean death or jail. Carrying a gun is a big responsibility...

My point exactly.

 

[Johnny Colnago]

My body is a lethal weapon.

 

[39*23t]

My body is a lethal weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwKaeWkYbqk&feature=fvw

did you ever ride for carrera?

 

[krebs303]

thanks to gttim

Maybe not such a bad idea. not for AC and LA though


ASHEVILLE, N.C. -- A driver, now identified as an Asheville firefighter, shot a bicycle rider because he was angry the man was riding with his child on a busy road, Asheville police said.



The shooting happened Sunday morning on Tunnel Road.

Officers said the victim was riding with his wife and had his 3-year-old son in a child seat attached to his bicycle when a driver approached him.

Police said the driver, Charles Diez, claimed he was upset that the victim was bike riding with his child on the heavily traveled Tunnel Road.

Diez pulled a gun and opened fire, hitting the victim in his bicycle helmet, according to police.

They said the bullet penetrated the outer lining of the helmet but did not actually hit the victim's head.

 

[Anonymous]

Dave Z is freaking funny, here is his latest twitter: Finally... http://bit.ly/U549Y

Yes, the link if germane to this thread's topic.

If only certain other diva twitter babies could learn something from DZ.

 

[8 Seconds]

I had a friend who swore one day he was going to. There was a 50 mile loop outside of town and at one point there was a big downhill followed by a steep uphill (imagine that). Well, at the top of the other side there was a house with a big dog. From the top of the downhill (about half a mile or so from the house) you were in full view of the dog. There was no way to beat him. Mostly he just made things a bit hairy for everyone, but on occasion he would take someone out. D had a Cold .380 that he wanted to use, but never did. I for one wouldn't have minded busing a cap in that old *******, but we never did. I did hit him square between the eyes with a lugi, and that did stun him. I also took a swing with my frame pump one time but missed.

I had a situation very similar to this. Old farmhouse on top of a fairly steep
hill. Great riding area, little traffic. Problem was the farmer had a German
Shepherd that came above my top tube and was mean as heck. Scared
the bejesus out of me the first morning I rode by there the dog stayed
beside me all the up the hill with teeth bared, growling. Nipped at me a
couple of times but never actually bit me.
I went back in my Jeep to have a talk with the farmer but the dog wouldn't
even let me out. The farmer came out and told be to get off his property.
I went back with my brother in his squad car (deputy sheriff) the farmer
kept saying the dog wouldn't hurt a flea. Of course when we pulled up in the
car the farmer locked the dog up in the barn. But we could hear him
barking and growling.
My brother warned him that if the dog was caught out on the road he would
have animal control come pick him up and the farmer would be fined.
The farmer laughed because he knew no one would patrol out where he was.

So I bought a can of that dog deterrent (pepper spray?) Rode by there the
next weekend and sure enough here comes the dog. I waited until he got
nice and close and then sprayed him in the face. He dove into the weeds
on the side of the road howling. The farmer came running out yelling at me.

I have ridden by there since and the dog doesn't come anywhere near the
road now. I sure do get nasty looks from the farmer though.

I love dogs and don't even mind being chased by them. But that was a
bit much. And even though the traffic is light in that area it still was
a dangerous situation. The way I see it I did the farmer a favor now he
doesn't have to worry about his dog getting hit in the road.

 

[runninboy]

I had a situation very similar to this. Old farmhouse on top of a fairly steep
hill. Great riding area, little traffic. Problem was the farmer had a German
Shepherd that came above my top tube and was mean as heck. Scared
the bejesus out of me the first morning I rode by there the dog stayed
beside me all the up the hill with teeth bared, growling. Nipped at me a
couple of times but never actually bit me.
I went back in my Jeep to have a talk with the farmer but the dog wouldn't
even let me out. The farmer came out and told be to get off his property.
I went back with my brother in his squad car (deputy sheriff) the farmer
kept saying the dog wouldn't hurt a flea. Of course when we pulled up in the
car the farmer locked the dog up in the barn. But we could hear him
barking and growling.
My brother warned him that if the dog was caught out on the road he would
have animal control come pick him up and the farmer would be fined.
The farmer laughed because he knew no one would patrol out where he was.

So I bought a can of that dog deterrent (pepper spray?) Rode by there the
next weekend and sure enough here comes the dog. I waited until he got
nice and close and then sprayed him in the face. He dove into the weeds
on the side of the road howling. The farmer came running out yelling at me.

I have ridden by there since and the dog doesn't come anywhere near the
road now. I sure do get nasty looks from the farmer though.

I love dogs and don't even mind being chased by them. But that was a
bit much. And even though the traffic is light in that area it still was
a dangerous situation. The way I see it I did the farmer a favor now he
doesn't have to worry about his dog getting hit in the road.

You did do the farmer a favour
My team used to encounter several dogs at the bottom of a downhill stretch of our favourite training ride. One teammate tracked down the owner of the dogs, but was just laughed off the property.
A few rides later as he was bombing the downhill the same teammate hit the dog & killed it. He swore he didn't do it on purpose, but then again he said the little road rash was worth it to see the look of pain on the owners face

some guys are pretty sick

 

[mikeNphilly]

A week or so a go here in the Philly area, on the river trail that runs from Philly to Valley Forge park and beyond, rider was kicked in the ribs by a 17 and 15 year old, almost lost control of his bike and ran into a fence. The rider then pulls out gun and shoots at the kids, aiming at the tires, blowing one tire out. This trail has has many attacks on rider/joggers/walkers in the past few months. Bike clubs have been talking with police trying to co-operate and report incidents in a timely manner. Guess this guy just got tired of it. He turned himself in, he has a permit to carry, but the kids were around 250 feet away when he opened fire, so he will be in some trouble.

 

[Anonymous]

A week or so a go here in the Philly area, on the river trail that runs from Philly to Valley Forge park and beyond, rider was kicked in the ribs by a 17 and 15 year old, almost lost control of his bike and ran into a fence. The rider then pulls out gun and shoots at the kids, aiming at the tires, blowing one tire out. This trail has has many attacks on rider/joggers/walkers in the past few months. Bike clubs have been talking with police trying to co-operate and report incidents in a timely manner. Guess this guy just got tired of it. He turned himself in, he has a permit to carry, but the kids were around 250 feet away when he opened fire, so he will be in some trouble.

Philly, the city that snowballed Santa...

 

[fulcrum]

If I did then I would probably end up getting mad enough at a dog that I would shoot it. Then it would be off to jail.

Unrelated, but I have an old PDM jersey. While wearing it more than one person has asked me if I am a police officer. That is some easy protection right there.

And old ePiDeMic jersey? I'm jealous.